To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

[CherryValley5]

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

It's kind of obvious why their dog is nuts. Any dog they would have it would be crazy.

They should have got a cat and a cat flap instead. Cat could have gone visiting other people while they are at work.

My position is basically no one who has one would have got a working cocker. Because they would be "too much" for a non working home.

Guess what you did. Just looks different.

In the right hands - as with working cockers, they can be nice dogs. But they are generally owned as a first dog by people who think their temperament and training needs will match their butter wouldn't melt looks.

It's two working breeds. In novice hands they are a challenge. Hence so many neurotic, badly managed and hence badly behaved ones.

Any breed that is popular is bred by people out to make money from novice owners who go for a look, follow a trend rather than breed characteristics.

To deny that is deeply disingenuous.

I have a poodle mix.

Clearly I don't think he's a certain breed, and nor does it offend me when people say he's a mixed breed - because that's what he is.

He's also clearly some kind of magical unicorn of the poodle mix world, as both of his parents were health tested.

I can see why people worry about the breeding of dogs, but think it's quite lazy to zone in on the poodle mix - especially when there are actual 'breeds' out there that are bred to be disgustingly unhealthy. My poodle mix is going to be living a much better life than a dog that struggles to breathe at the best of times.

This is ridiculous snobbery. Have had pedigree dogs all my life and now have a cockerpoo. She's easily the best family dog of the lot. No behavioural or health issues at all. Neither do any of the poodle crosses owned by friends and family. In contrast, out of the current pedigree dogs I know, one goes absolutely crazy when anyone walks down the street, and as for ringing the doorbell... one snaps at kids, one is completely hyperactive, two are beyond placid and boring at 3 and 5, one has had to have a hip op at 6. My dog doesn't she'd, is healthy and has an amazing temperament. What's not to like!??

Our cocker spaniel doesn’t shed much at all but my friend’s cocker poo needs 6 weekly hair cuts. Much more high maintenance. We knew about the shedding as we’d met mum and dad plus 2 older siblings from same parents. With cockerpoos you have far less certainty re which bits they’ll inherit.

The 'purebred' snobbery is ridiculous. How do you think all these 'purebred' dogs came about? There wasn't wild-roaming golden retrievers or Afghan hounds wandering around waiting to be domesticated 😂

Our dog’s parents were DNA tested for numerous inherited conditions including PRA and FN Von Willebrand disease, Degenerative Myelopathy, Neonatal encephalopathy, Acral Mutilation Syndrome.They were also taken for annual eye tests, and were hip scored. All AA

Our dog came with Mum & Dads pedigree, lineage & health test results, puppy's health checks & vaccination card.

I couldn’t give a shit what they make as I’d rather pay for an outstanding breeder with an amazing lovely environment.

Yes, I fully agree with all of this.

Poodles don’t shed, they are loving, obedient, very intelligent, easy to train and calm.
Similarly I have a Spanish Water Dog. My breeder said I should get a tee-shirt saying "No, he isn't a Cockerpoo" as everyone will assume he is. I see some lovely Cockerpoo's out and about but I wanted a dog with KC recognition and a breed standard.

Someone breeding mongrels is not a reputable breeder.

I don’t understand why it matters if you have a mongrel not a pure breed? Surely if your dogs healthy and you love it then it doesn’t matter? My uncles dog is a lab- she is amazing but has issues with her hips. My sister has a rescue mongrel, god knows what breed he is. He’s gorgeous. My friend has a labradoodle because her son has asthma and is allergic to pet hair. No health issues. I have a half lab half boxer. Also gorgeous. None of my family are breeding from our dogs.

Why is it two working breeds? Show cockers are typically used to breed cockerpoos not working cockers.

But don’t all pedigree breeds have health issues ?

runs and hides as I clearly don’t know anything about dogs

Does she like being on a lead?
Cockatoo - Wikipedia

I adore those dogs! We are looking at an Irish Water Spaniel as our next addition.

Our dog’s mum was a show cocker and she has been in no way a challenge . Our first dog and easy peasy to train and a dream .

Look at the average life expectancy for a cockerpoo and compare to pure bred dogs. They compare favorably.

Exactly this .

Still a backyard breeder. I don't think you understand what this term means.

"Live, Laugh, Love" on their collars.

I don’t think you do

I have a Springer x poodle. I wanted a springer, DH didn’t so he was a compromise. And is wonderful. I agree there a many disreputable breeders and that is abhorrent but you get that with purebreds too. We had phone calls with our breeder about what sort of home the puppy would come to, visits to him with his dam and litter mates, met his sire etc. She temperament tests all her bitches before they have litter and they all have the health tests needed for their breed. Our dog is 7 now so we had him before the prices went mad.
I think anyone who uses terms like ‘mongrel’ when talking about a crossbreed says more about themselves and their own weird snobbery about Poodle crosses. After all, pedigree breeds are all crossbreeds if you go back far enough.
As for standards of behaviour and breeding/health issues you only need to look at the health conditions so many purebreds have and how much what the breed standard is has changed in 50-100 years to see that unethical behaviour is not the preserve of so called “Doodle” breeders.

I really do. The fact that you're calling a mongrel a ridiculous, made up name says everything I need to know about your, "Knowledge".

People like you are the reason there are so many dogs in rescue. I hope you're happy that you've contributed to the biggest issue in dog welfare in the UK.

YABU to be so angry about it....

It's gone from "I don't get it" to being really nasty and angry about the choices of other people that has no impact on you....

Personally I don't get why you're that bothered? (And I say that as a Labrador owner)