To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

[CherryValley5]

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

No one has said that owning a pedigree dog is snobbish or bad in any way whatsoever. People have commented that some of the comments on here about non pedigree dogs and their owners have been unpleasant and yes, snobbish. And obviously there is something wrong with picking an inherently unhealthy breed of dog. But nothing wrong whatsoever with pedigree dogs - all dogs are gorgeous (well most anyway!!)

@AubrieDog i made this comment just a bit up thread, the very next comment in response was just utterly pointless and nasty and not giving any reasonable argument, so then I made the mean one about the kennel club. For owning doodles we have been called stupid fake grass buying classless idiots, who by purchasing designer dogs are fuelling unethical breeding of dogs for money, pointless dogs that don’t need to be engineered for humans as pets. So of course il retaliate with the obvious parallels to the breeds on the kennel club list, it’s the nastiness and the hypocrisy we are shouting down, but I also love all the purebreds as well.

Most like you, me and many on here just love dogs and don’t start threads attacking others choices, we just love their cute wooftasic snuffly faces.

I know @cookiebee , It's been an eye opener in a lot of ways and actually quite sad. I've read it all, I understand your perspective. I guess we're all a little defensive about our choices and we really shouldn't have to be. We all love our dogs and that's all that should matter. No judgement, no bias.

They’re extinct so I’m not sure why you feel they’d be a wonderful choice too. They are one of the ancestors of a current popular breed…. It’s almost like these things evolve.

They’re not extinct, just endangered - or else the one living beside us belonging to our neighbours, alongside the two that my best friend owns must be a figment of my imagination.. Check your facts before commenting maybe?

Tweed Water Spaniel? It is extinct.

Irish Water Spaniel is what I was very clearly referring to in my post as to our next breed..

If this is knocking all doodle crosses surely you are also effectively criticising poodles. You can't lump all doodle crosses into one category they can wildly differ depending what they are crossed with.

Before the doodle cross craze many people had mongrels and nobody ever criticised these en masse.

Our boy is a wonderful family pet and we wouldn't change him for the world. Yes he's not perfect but most dogs (and people for that matter) have the odd quirky trait. We've invested lots of time training him and he doesn't bound over to people on walks and jump on them as you describe.

Yes, I do realise that but I think the extinct comment actually referred to the Tweed Water Spaniel not the IWS.

It's the money thing. Apparently it was fine when mongrels were the result of irresponsible owners getting their dogs accidentally knocked up by God knows what, but if somebody wants to responsibly mate 2 purebreds as they know there's a market for them than that's unethical.

Obviously there are tons of dodgy breeders out there. I looked for a year before I got my pup and vetoed many. My pup was from a reputable breeder so I'm not contributing to doodles in rescues at all. Her breeder isn't doing it again and all 9 pups are in happy, secure homes for life.

If I hadn't been able to find a reputable breeder, would I have still gone for a doodle? Nope, I wouldn't. But I can't speak for the other owners and I'm sure there are many out there that aren't as meticulous as me when it comes to choosing a breeder. So yes, I'm glad these kind of breeders exist, as they're are stopping some people at least from going to a dodgy place/puppy farm.

I hate dog snobbery. You can't call yourself a dog lover if you constantly judge other people's choice of dogs. Doodle mixes are not for me but my breed type would probably not be for them either.

I agree, I have both, a rescue pooX and pedigree dogs.
I believe a Tibetan Terrier has all the attributes people are looking in a Poodle X, but I am biased as I absolutely love the breed.

No, they read my post incorrectly. The poster is question assumed I was referring to a TWS and criticised the fact that I was allegedly planning on getting a breed that no longer exists..

Isn't that exactly what I've just pointed out? Never mind...

(And yes, I do know that IWS are not extinct, I have met several.)

They didn't. You said they were wonderful too but you wanted an Irish breed. The other poster then asked why you thought they were a wonderful choice too when actually they're extinct.

Thanks. I'm not going potty then...😊

How can it have a pedigree? Both parents have to be the same breed.

Doodle owner logic.

As opposed to your logic where you breeze in and out of this thread, make claims with nothing to back them up other than hearsay from your friends in your cyber group/shelter/groomers.

You never did answer me anyway: do you think of your mongrel as a "real" dog or does it know it's place in the pecking order?

It can still have a pedigree.
We once had a cat that was the result of an accidental mating between a British Blue and a Russian Blue. Obviously he wasn't registered but the lady we got him from gave us a pedigree just so we could look at the bloodlines from both sides because sometimes it's interesting to see the origins. It's just like people tracing their ancestry, it can be fascinating.

She's just a bigot, and is obsessed 😂

Dr Google on Pedigree Dogs

A pedigree dog is the offspring of two dogs of the same breed, which is eligible for registration with a recognised club or society that maintain a register for dogs of that description. There are a number of pedigree dog registration schemes, of which is the most well known.

The poster didn't say IS a pedigree dog, she said HAS a pedigree.

Fire up google again - see what pedigree means.

I'm sure nobody needs clarification what a pedigree is. PP said "effective" meaning they know it's not officially recognised as such but after 7 generations of presumably healthy pups they're not just 2 dogs thrown together.