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To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 21:26

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

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AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:01

FiddleSticks00 · 16/09/2024 16:59

That may be correct. However after responding quite sensibly and not swiping at anybody, I was met with snide comments and cattiness. I'll respond in kind. Especially when they're refusing to accept corrections to their misunderstandings about basic thingsm

And this kind of behaviour is normally caused by jealousy tbh. It affects their lives in no way at all.

Jealousy of what though?

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:01

AddictedToBooks · 16/09/2024 16:55

My vile (ex) next door neighbour has a cockapoo that she never trained or controlled and it used to go running across the road, escaping, going into other people's gardens and crapping and jumping up at strangers and constantly barking and howling pretty much every single day and night - yet she used to actually turn her nose up at our two (trained and secure at all times) Border Collies and she go on about how wonderful her dog was and above ours "because I bought her from a breeder" ............ our Border Collies are both rescues but they're also actual pedigrees (not that I really care because I love them to pieces anyway).

This post is actually more about my ex ndn and her snobbishness though tbh

I can honestly say the best trained dogs I ever meet are always border collies. They are impeccably behaved. I always wonder if it's solely down to their owner or if it's also in them that they're keen to please?

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:04

It actually does affect my life, because I volunteer for a dog rescue, where doodles are the bane of our existence.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:07

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I have, many times. You can say it as much as you like, but you're still wrong. A mongrel is a mix of more than one breed. Any breed. Known, or unknown. A crossbreed is a cross of two (real) breeds, but they're still mongrels.

My mind is neither tiny, or little. Intelligent people don't defend puppy farming for profit.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:21

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:07

I have, many times. You can say it as much as you like, but you're still wrong. A mongrel is a mix of more than one breed. Any breed. Known, or unknown. A crossbreed is a cross of two (real) breeds, but they're still mongrels.

My mind is neither tiny, or little. Intelligent people don't defend puppy farming for profit.

Whatever term makes you feel better, although it's obvious you're using it in a derogatory way.

My dog is real. She barks, farts and breathes just like your real dog. She is fully health and dna tested, as were her parents, grandparents and many generations before them for whom I have all paperwork, as I assume you do for your real dog.

She isn't any lesser a dog than yours is just because she isn't KC registered.

The most common dogs in rescues are staffs. Is that OK as they're real dogs in your eyes? Or is yours the only rescue around that is full of poodle crosses? Convenient.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:25

@walkingonwheels With the level of vitriol that you have for poodle mixes, perhaps you should volunteer for a breed specific rescue.

Poor dogs have been through enough, I'm sure.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:31

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:25

@walkingonwheels With the level of vitriol that you have for poodle mixes, perhaps you should volunteer for a breed specific rescue.

Poor dogs have been through enough, I'm sure.

That is a vile comment.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:33

@AubrieDog vile to think she should stick to a breed specific rescue, at the risk that any care she gives a poodle mix will not be equal to any other dog, as she clearly sees them as less than?

Ok.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:45

Wow, how horrible. For your information, I would never treat a dog any differently because of their breed make-up. I blame the owners and breeders, not the dogs. And you're proving my point.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:47

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:21

Whatever term makes you feel better, although it's obvious you're using it in a derogatory way.

My dog is real. She barks, farts and breathes just like your real dog. She is fully health and dna tested, as were her parents, grandparents and many generations before them for whom I have all paperwork, as I assume you do for your real dog.

She isn't any lesser a dog than yours is just because she isn't KC registered.

The most common dogs in rescues are staffs. Is that OK as they're real dogs in your eyes? Or is yours the only rescue around that is full of poodle crosses? Convenient.

I have a rescue mongrel as well as my purebreed dogs, but OK. I just don't call him a ridiculous, made up name.

Haven't had a staffie in for ages 👍

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:48

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:25

@walkingonwheels With the level of vitriol that you have for poodle mixes, perhaps you should volunteer for a breed specific rescue.

Poor dogs have been through enough, I'm sure.

Honestly I was going to say the same. Do the rescue owners share your view that poodle crosses aren't proper dogs? Worrying if so.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:48

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:45

Wow, how horrible. For your information, I would never treat a dog any differently because of their breed make-up. I blame the owners and breeders, not the dogs. And you're proving my point.

I'd think the same if anyone was talking the way you are about any type of dog.

If a groomer, dog walker, pet sitter or vet was talking as you are about poodle mixes and I was unable to identify I would not only stay well clear, but wonder why they were in the profession they were in.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:48

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:48

Honestly I was going to say the same. Do the rescue owners share your view that poodle crosses aren't proper dogs? Worrying if so.

They absolutely do. As do all the other national rescues we work with.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:49

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:45

Wow, how horrible. For your information, I would never treat a dog any differently because of their breed make-up. I blame the owners and breeders, not the dogs. And you're proving my point.

Yep. True colours showing - a genuine dog lover wouldn't even think something like that, never mind say it.

Hope you're okay x

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:49

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:48

I'd think the same if anyone was talking the way you are about any type of dog.

If a groomer, dog walker, pet sitter or vet was talking as you are about poodle mixes and I was unable to identify I would not only stay well clear, but wonder why they were in the profession they were in.

You'd better not join any grooming groups, then, as they're all full of comments about poodle crosses and what a pain in the arse both their coats, and their owners are 😂

AddictedToBooks · 16/09/2024 17:49

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:01

I can honestly say the best trained dogs I ever meet are always border collies. They are impeccably behaved. I always wonder if it's solely down to their owner or if it's also in them that they're keen to please?

I think it's a bit of both.

My parents rescued a Border Collie and some cats from an empty flat just before I was born and they found homes for the cats and kept the dog and when I was born, Dad said that she would sit by me constantly and she accidentally nudged my pram, making it rock as I was crying one day and it soothed me and from then on, if ever I started whimpering in my pram, she'd sit in the basket and use her nose to bounce my pram. She would also escape by jumping over our gate and would follow my Dad if he took me out in my pram - he left me outside a shop one day and came out to a commotion of a dog barking and Lady had followed Dad and made herself comfy under my pram and she was upset because two ladies were leaning into my pram to look at me (the ladies actually admitted to my Dad that they'd come too close and that Lady was just protecting me).
Another time, Dad had taken me to my Nanna's and not long after we'd arrived, there was a knock at Nanna's door and when she opened it, Lady was there, wagging her tail on the path.

Sadly I don't really remember her but I rescued a Border Collie 15 years ago (her breed was pure chance but when Dad saw her, he said she was just like Lady) and she was amazing and always eager to please. I was really ill one day and bed bound and I dropped my medication packet and she was playing in the room and lunged for the packet and I thought "Oh no!" and she came and gently placed them in my lap and then carried on with her playing.
I miss her terribly.

Now my husband and I dedicate ourselves to giving rescue Border Collies a loving forever home.
Currently got a male and a female (both neutered) and they both trained well but I think that was more to do with them than us.
Our lad taught himself how to flip a doughnut shaped toy into the air and then catch it every time but he is definitely the more bonkers one. Our new girl has the strongest herding mentality (she likes to herd bubbles - our other female liked to herd balloons whereas our boy thinks it's his mission to destroy all balloons).
She taught herself to go and find the cat (who likes to hide) - I ask where he is and she will go all over the house and garden to find him and will then sit next to him and bark for me.

The cleverest thing they've done was this summer - they have a shallow paddling pool to play in on the hotter days and I'd just popped in to put the kettle on and my girl came running in to get me (I can't explain it, maybe it's because I've been a "Collie Mum" for 15 years, but I just knew she wanted me to go outside, rather than an ear tickle) and I followed her outside and our boy was looking from me, into the pool, to me again and she ran to the pool and our boy actually took the running hose out of the pool with his mouth and I saw that they were looking at a drowning honeybee - thanks to them, I saved the honeybee but I still can't get over our lad pulling the hose out!

From my personal experience, I'd say the female Border Collies are easier to train and are more "sensible" but they're also very bossy when they want to be - when my girl fancies "herding bubbles", she picks her bubble tube up and brings it to me and if I don't respond quick enough she starts tapping me on the knee with her paw.
Mind you, she can be a moody little madam too - a few weeks ago she couldn't walk between the sofa and the coffee table because my leg was in the way and she really bad temperedly yanked my leg out of the way by pulling it with her paw.

They are intelligent and very beautiful (but I think the same of all dogs, even my ex neighbour's untrained one) but I do admittedly have a huge affection for Collies, even collies that are different types and mongrels that have Collie in them - they all just seem to have this way of learning really quickly and wanting to make those they care about, happy

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:50

Oh give over @AubrieDog.

I'm not a dog lover because I worry that someone who has a role in caring for dogs might treat them differently depending on breed status? Not sure there's any need for such hysterics.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:50

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:48

They absolutely do. As do all the other national rescues we work with.

As do many vets. I have two cousins that are vets...

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:52

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:49

Yep. True colours showing - a genuine dog lover wouldn't even think something like that, never mind say it.

Hope you're okay x

Honestly, it's doodle owners to a tee. The ones who come in to palm their lockdown dogs off are the mist horrid, entitled people who think they're doing us a favour! They're also the dogs that come in with the absolute worst coat neglect. Some of the videos and photos I've been sent by both my groomer, and the ones I know through rescues, are shocking.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:52

@WalkingonWheels I'm aware that lots of groomer trash take poodle mixes, which is why I'm happy with my groomer. As stated previously, she's so busy she had to close her books. She made a decision to keep my poodle mix on - so she obviously doesn't have any negative feelings towards him.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:53

Honestly, it's doodle owners to a tee. The ones who come in to palm their lockdown dogs off are the mist horrid, entitled people who think they're doing us a favour! They're also the dogs that come in with the absolute worst coat neglect. Some of the videos and photos I've been sent by both my groomer, and the ones I know through rescues, are shocking.

This type of talk is ok though, @AubrieDog ?

This assumption of my character isn't a problem?

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:53

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:49

Yep. True colours showing - a genuine dog lover wouldn't even think something like that, never mind say it.

Hope you're okay x

I'm confused? I don't get what's wrong with this comment? This poster has continuously slated these dogs for not being "real" dogs. The dogs. Not the owners.

The other poster IS considering the dogs and worried they'll be getting treated differently as they're thought of as undeserving seeing as they're not up there with "real" dogs. Why are you making out she's the one that's abhorrent?

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 17:59

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 17:53

Honestly, it's doodle owners to a tee. The ones who come in to palm their lockdown dogs off are the mist horrid, entitled people who think they're doing us a favour! They're also the dogs that come in with the absolute worst coat neglect. Some of the videos and photos I've been sent by both my groomer, and the ones I know through rescues, are shocking.

This type of talk is ok though, @AubrieDog ?

This assumption of my character isn't a problem?

That is not a personal attack but yours was.

Verv · 16/09/2024 18:00

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 17:53

I'm confused? I don't get what's wrong with this comment? This poster has continuously slated these dogs for not being "real" dogs. The dogs. Not the owners.

The other poster IS considering the dogs and worried they'll be getting treated differently as they're thought of as undeserving seeing as they're not up there with "real" dogs. Why are you making out she's the one that's abhorrent?

Quite.
My initial thought when reading it was "Christ, Imagine losing everything you've ever known only to be viewed as a "bane" by an alleged caregiver.

The "I would never treat differently" though works on the principle that dogs can't tell who likes them and who doesn't, which is a nonsense. They know.

(I dont have a doodle or a poodle btw, ive got a god-knows-what rescue mutt)

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 18:01

@AubrieDog it's pretty personal....she's lumped me in with the type of owner that I most certainly am not.

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