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To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 21:26

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

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AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 19:44

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:36

No, I figured you knew that - but I think a lot of people do not understand at all that there is a difference to the way breeds are managed today, and the kinds of natural types for certain kinds of work, or which evolved, in earlier times.

And there seem to be several people on the thread who would like to make it seem like it's the on;y way to think of dog types.

Indeed and there are now some on this thread wanting to get rid of breeds they don't like because these dogs no longer have a purpose. Apparently we now need to create new dogs for the modern lifestyle, whatever that is exactly...😆

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:51

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 18:17

What? That makes no sense whatsoever. What are these uses that aren't needed any more? Please elaborate because aside from dog fighting or bear baiting I can't think of any and even those are (sadly) still commonplace in some countries.

You could probably make an argument that many working type dogs are not used for original purpose any more, and their working instincts are a liability in a pet.

Even when you still have some jobs for dogs there are whole breeds that once may have done that job, but now don't.

Poodles are a good example, you don't see many working poodles, and you'd be hard pressed to find any bred with that in mind.

In some cases, you could argue that the pet lines and working lines are completely different breeds, since the pet types have lost the instincts that defined the breed - even if they still look similar.

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:55

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 19:44

Indeed and there are now some on this thread wanting to get rid of breeds they don't like because these dogs no longer have a purpose. Apparently we now need to create new dogs for the modern lifestyle, whatever that is exactly...😆

A modern dog:

Not too sheddy.

Will be quiet in the house or apartment.

No barking.

Likes to drive in cars.

Moderate exercise needs.

Doesn't mind being alone for periods.

Good with kids, not nippy.

People breed dogs for the tasks and lifestyle they had. So maybe we should create breeds best suited for modern families?

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 19:59

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:55

A modern dog:

Not too sheddy.

Will be quiet in the house or apartment.

No barking.

Likes to drive in cars.

Moderate exercise needs.

Doesn't mind being alone for periods.

Good with kids, not nippy.

People breed dogs for the tasks and lifestyle they had. So maybe we should create breeds best suited for modern families?

Well, I don't have (or want) a modern lifestyle or need a designer dog to suit said lifestyle so at this point I'll call it a day.

YoYoYoYo12345 · 15/09/2024 20:42

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 18:30

And poodles don't look strange! Fully coated they look like a doodle. If anybody round here's strange, it most certainly isn't a poodle.

🙄😂 we beg to differ then, imo, poodles are a strange looking dog. Everyone likes different breeds of dogs, that's OK 👍

YoYoYoYo12345 · 15/09/2024 20:44

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:55

A modern dog:

Not too sheddy.

Will be quiet in the house or apartment.

No barking.

Likes to drive in cars.

Moderate exercise needs.

Doesn't mind being alone for periods.

Good with kids, not nippy.

People breed dogs for the tasks and lifestyle they had. So maybe we should create breeds best suited for modern families?

Why not.

CellophaneFlower · 15/09/2024 20:51

YoYoYoYo12345 · 15/09/2024 20:42

🙄😂 we beg to differ then, imo, poodles are a strange looking dog. Everyone likes different breeds of dogs, that's OK 👍

Yes... such a strange looking dog....

To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds
WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 21:53

TempestTost · 15/09/2024 19:55

A modern dog:

Not too sheddy.

Will be quiet in the house or apartment.

No barking.

Likes to drive in cars.

Moderate exercise needs.

Doesn't mind being alone for periods.

Good with kids, not nippy.

People breed dogs for the tasks and lifestyle they had. So maybe we should create breeds best suited for modern families?

So... Not a doodle, then 😂

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 21:57

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 21:53

So... Not a doodle, then 😂

No. It would be something made by Steiff. Easy care like a garden with no plants.

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 22:24

AubrieDog · 15/09/2024 21:57

No. It would be something made by Steiff. Easy care like a garden with no plants.

Ha, yes. Doodle owners and artificial grass do seem to go hand in hand 😁

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 06:09

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 22:24

Ha, yes. Doodle owners and artificial grass do seem to go hand in hand 😁

9 pups in my dog's litter. None of us owners have artificial grass, actually, one is a farmer. HTH.

FiddleSticks00 · 16/09/2024 07:06

WalkingonWheels · 15/09/2024 22:24

Ha, yes. Doodle owners and artificial grass do seem to go hand in hand 😁

Why are you so bitter? Plus, your arguments are shit. You seem to just want to jump on the thread and be snide. Why the jealousy? 😂

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 07:29

Jealousy? Of people who pay thousands for a mutt? OK 😂

FiddleSticks00 · 16/09/2024 08:09

My mistake - you just come onto a thread with arguments that make no sense, to repeatedly be bitchy about something you allegedly care nothing about. Sure 😉

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 09:08

Which of my comments make no sense?

Actually, I have repeatedly said how much I care about the welfare of dogs. I'm not sure why you're trying to make out otherwise.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 09:15

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 09:08

Which of my comments make no sense?

Actually, I have repeatedly said how much I care about the welfare of dogs. I'm not sure why you're trying to make out otherwise.

Every comment you've made, somebody has challenged, then you disappear again as you have nothing else to offer.

People are happy with their dogs. It's not affecting you and why do you care how much they paid? I didn't pay any more for mine than pedigree puppies go for. My breeder put as much time and expense into her litter as a pedigree breeder would have, so I'm not sure why she deserves less money as her pups didn't come with a KC registration - for all that's worth (nothing).

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 09:20

And banging on about artificial grass etc... you've lost any argument you had about poor breeding of 'designer' dogs as you're just showing yourself to be the judgemental bigot that you obviously are.

Milly16 · 16/09/2024 09:31

Blondiie · 15/09/2024 01:11

Most people don’t gaf about “lineage” or “pedigree”, maybe because it’s a bit odd…idk.
I’m very much a longdog person - so a different type of mongrel. Nobody is ever “why would you have THAT instead of a pedigree” about my dogs - everyone is used to longdogs and lurchers. Not everyone likes them (the ribs, the pointy face, the weight of the world on their bony shoulders) but they don’t mock the ownership of them either.
I’m surrounded by cockapoos where I live. They are all lovely, if a bit noisy sometimes. The naughtiest dogs in the street are a flat coated retriever and an Airedale terrier. The dogs I’ve know in the past few years who have dropped down dead under 5 years old are a Newfoundland, a Bernese mountain dog, a short haired German pointer, a frenchie, and a malamute. All “health tested”, from “reputable breeders” and KC registered. I know numerous goldens/labs and GSD with dodgy joints and a fairly young age. Poo crosses are v cute, if that’s your style, highly trainable, if a little energetic, mostly don’t shed, are fun, and you can tuck them under your arm and fit them in a small car. None of my dogs are very trainable, or very cute, or can be picked up or put in the back of a fiesta and my house and clothes are covered in hair, but I’m supposed to think the poo owners are the daft ones?

This. If poos aren't for you don't get one, but don't pretend they are somehow more problematic than other dogs. They really aren't. The ones I know are manageable friendly family dogs, and are remarkably healthy and easy while having the energy to play with the kids or go for a long walk. Everyone is a first time dog owner at some point and it's better to have a smaller more manageable dog first time before launching straight into a large high energy dog as many do. All this talk of fake grass and velvet sofas is bonkers btw.

MarkWithaC · 16/09/2024 09:34

Milly16 · 16/09/2024 09:31

This. If poos aren't for you don't get one, but don't pretend they are somehow more problematic than other dogs. They really aren't. The ones I know are manageable friendly family dogs, and are remarkably healthy and easy while having the energy to play with the kids or go for a long walk. Everyone is a first time dog owner at some point and it's better to have a smaller more manageable dog first time before launching straight into a large high energy dog as many do. All this talk of fake grass and velvet sofas is bonkers btw.

I think it's not the dogs per se but the person who is likely to get a doodle breed that's problematic; in my area they seem to be people who want a cute dog, often for the kids' amusement, but have no clue about training and handling them so they don't run up in the park and knock over people's stuff/stick their noses in your picnic food while the owner, who clearly hasn't taught them recall, shouts ineffectively and then chases them around, which of course they think is a game.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 09:38

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 09:15

Every comment you've made, somebody has challenged, then you disappear again as you have nothing else to offer.

People are happy with their dogs. It's not affecting you and why do you care how much they paid? I didn't pay any more for mine than pedigree puppies go for. My breeder put as much time and expense into her litter as a pedigree breeder would have, so I'm not sure why she deserves less money as her pups didn't come with a KC registration - for all that's worth (nothing).

😂

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 09:43

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 09:38

😂

Well, I don't need to prove my point at least... you're doing it for me 😂

Milly16 · 16/09/2024 09:47

MarkWithaC · 16/09/2024 09:34

I think it's not the dogs per se but the person who is likely to get a doodle breed that's problematic; in my area they seem to be people who want a cute dog, often for the kids' amusement, but have no clue about training and handling them so they don't run up in the park and knock over people's stuff/stick their noses in your picnic food while the owner, who clearly hasn't taught them recall, shouts ineffectively and then chases them around, which of course they think is a game.

Right, so a typical first time dog owner. I was walking my dog this morning when a young energetic boxer came hurling up to my dog, completely ignoring his owner. My dog was terrified as the boxer ignored all his go away I'm scared signs and continued to jump on top of him. The owner came up and eventually managed to catch the dog and I told him to keep the dog on the lead if he had no recall. They both slunk off and hopefully learn from it. I am an experienced dog owner who got a doodle breed for various good reasons. If you come across a dog being annoying, tick the owner off. Honestly they will soon learn what is acceptable.7

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MarkWithaC · 16/09/2024 12:16

Milly16 · 16/09/2024 09:47

Right, so a typical first time dog owner. I was walking my dog this morning when a young energetic boxer came hurling up to my dog, completely ignoring his owner. My dog was terrified as the boxer ignored all his go away I'm scared signs and continued to jump on top of him. The owner came up and eventually managed to catch the dog and I told him to keep the dog on the lead if he had no recall. They both slunk off and hopefully learn from it. I am an experienced dog owner who got a doodle breed for various good reasons. If you come across a dog being annoying, tick the owner off. Honestly they will soon learn what is acceptable.7

I don't disagree with any of this and I'm not saying only doodles can behave badly Just that in my area/experience, it is doodle breeds who are most likely to be badly trained/behaved. Which of course is their owners' fault; that was precisely my point.

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 12:55

I've never mentioned class.
I'm certainly not jealous in any way, shape or form of your poorly bred mutts.

But do carry on with the justifications, excuses and insults. It's giving me and my dog-loving friends a good laugh.

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