To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

[CherryValley5]

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

I agree they are ridiculously expensive for what is basically a mutt, but my 'pet' hate are those flat faced breeds, shih tzu, frenchies and pug dogs. They all suffer some form of breathing issues. And all because humans wanted them to have more human looking baby faces 🤬

The breeder of our F1 screened and litters are limited. Mum was also a show cocker not a working cocker. We have the full history and documentation of the Kennel Club registered parents .

I would get a doodle breed if I was going to get a dog as I have allergies. They are nice looking dogs without any horrid breathing problems such as pugs or lack jaw such as staffies. The ones I am have come accross always seem to have nice temperaments.
I don’t understand the obsession where I am of getting a “proper working dog” Everyone around here seems to have a hyperactive cocker spaniel. They are a pet. They don’t work!

I don't understand this sneering attitude about doodles. The price is about supply and demand they make great pets, don't shed and are a lot of fun and affectionate. I have 2, one I bought as a puppy from a reputable breeder and one I took in from a family who couldn't manage it, just needed some consistent training - I love them 😍 but then I like all dogs and wouldn't criticise anyone for choosing any dog 🐕

I have 2 Tibetans & a cookerpoo.

Honestly my TT's don't bark more than the cookerpoo.

I think the issue is, that Tibetans voice is deeper than one would expect.
Overall, they are wonderful dogs, they are able to adapt to your lifestyle in terms of exercise needs.

My cookerpoo gets stir crazy if she's not had her regular walk & play for whatever reason. My Tibetans don't.

@F0urt33n As for the coat, again, the Tibetans are miles better. You keep them short (puppy cut), brush once or twice a week... an adult in full coat 3-4x week, depending very much on the coat itself and grooming products you use.
My cookerpoo has the tight Poodle curls in patches they also need brushing out 2-3x week, unless it's cut super short.

Each breed/ type has some attributes that are not wanted or undesirable.

And this is exactly why I chose my poodle cross. The breeds in her both included things I wanted and things I didn't. I was fully aware however, it was a lottery and was happy to accept all traits of the breeds she's made up - none of them were a deal breaker.

I didn't want a full poodle as I've read they can be highly strung/highly intelligent and sometimes prone to separation anxiety. I also wanted a dog who was a bit more 'robust'. I love everything about golden retrievers bar the shedding.

I've ended up with a dog that's basically a GR with a very low shedding coat. She could be left for long periods if necessary (I've only left her for max 4 hours and very infrequently). She's extremely laid back and not high maintenance at all (apart from her coat, but that's my own doing as I keep her long and groom her myself). She's actually a little too robust - if you walk into her she doesn't move and it's like hitting a brick wall, but it's what I wanted I guess 😂

I can let a lot of this go because I am intelligent and so don’t engage in arguing with strangers on line but really….

I’m not going to pretend to be a genius but I am a qualified experienced doctor who lectures and does clinical teaching for medical students and am on the board of national organisations.

and I own a doodle. (Who is, as I have already said, a trained assistance dog)

Quite! No genius here but my husband and I have 3 degrees between us and have jobs that require a fair bit of intelligence. I think we were bright enough to research and decide on the best dog for our family.

Not poodles. They are awful, you couldn't pay me to have one.

Hybrids much better.

Clearly not 😂

I think you’re just making yourself look a bit silly now.

Why are people so indignant that doodles are 'too expensive.' There's no such thing as too expensive. The price is what the market is willing to bear. Just because you wouldn't pay it, doesn't mean others aren't willing to. You could say this about anything that you don't value - 'people are idiots for paying a lot of money for that thing I myself don't like.'

A reputable breeder wouldn't be breeding cockerpoos.

My neighbour has one and I've never heard her dog bark! Delightful dog.

With a cross, it’s pot luck what you get. You might get everything you didn’t want.

My DB has a lab and he barks more when he's asleep and dreaming than when he's awake.

I can thoroughly recommend an actual poodle, rather than a doodle.

Says who?

It's the luck of the draw at the end of the day but you can push the odds in your favour by going for a breed that's not known for its vocalness!

Not all are expensive anyway, certainly not since lockdown, when the price of all puppies went through the roof.. I just wouldn't expect the cheaper ones to have health checked/hip scored parents.

You are wrong about poodles. They are lovely dogs. We visited the breeder twice. They had the mother and grandmother as family pets. Both dogs were quiet and well behaved.

If you intend getting a puppy, then a proper breeder is the way to go. Any decent breeder welcomes visits and questions. Meet the mother of the puppies and decide for yourself what sort of temperament the breed has. This is what you should do, even if you are going for a poodle cross.

Honestly if you believe poodles are awful, then don’t go near anything crossed with one. Having a hybrid, as you call it, doesn’t mean you won’t get the “awful” poodle character.

Sadly poodle crosses have become so popular, that unscrupulous people are selling them. Personally I don’t have a problem with a cross. I do have a problem with puppy farms and the unscrupulous types.

Quite. I'm not sure why anybody would go for a poodle cross if they disliked poodles so much.

I think poodles are beautiful. I'm not keen on their cuts and shaved snouts, but fully coated, people would struggle to distinguish them from a typical doodle.

Yep exactly what we did. Met owner and mother/ father several times. Saw and have the well documented profile, history and health of both parents - which is way more than many of my pedigree owning friends did/ have.

There is no need to give a poodle a stupid cut. We cut our poodle the same all over, so she looks like a normal dog. And yes, virtually every day people ask if she’s a cockapoo or a cavapoo.

Ah, see now I always ask if the dog is a poodle first... just in case 😂

I saw a litter of poodle puppies once. 8 weeks old and had already had their snouts shaved. Why?!