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AIBU?

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For putting my foot down about DM's dog

297 replies

OhMyGodAChicken · 03/09/2024 13:43

I'll preface this post by saying I'm not really a dog person. I like them well enough, grew up with them, and fuss on friends' pets, but I don't want one for myself. DM is convinced I hate dogs, most especially hers.

The latest situation culminated in her sloping off home from ours, where she's been staying (with dog), last night in a huff.

DM's life centres on this dog. She lives alone with him and he provides her with company and a reason to get out and about to meet people.

However, there's a list of his "requirements" (not sure how many are real, how many have been created by DM, and how many are just DM's claims) that makes it really hard work having him to stay with her - or actually doing anything much.

  • He will only eat rotisserie chicken from the supermarket. It has to be served on the floor as he's "scared" of dishes.
  • Likewise, he will only drink water from a glass, and it has to be refreshed three times a day. I've seen him gobble up cat food and water from my pets' dishes, and he eats literal shit when out on walks.
  • He has to sleep in the bed with DM, so any bedding I put on the guest bed, I have to be happy for the dog to sleep in.
  • He doesn't like the car and "can't be left", so any outings have to be short and/or near to DM's, and dog-friendly venues.
  • He regularly humps cushions and blankets for 15-20 minutes. After he did it to my sofa cushions, DM brings a blanket he's allowed to hump. She advises my DD not to sit on it in case there's ejaculate on it.
  • He licks everything. EVERYTHING. "He's just a licker" - we're talking aggressive licking and slurping carpets, sofas, cushions, DD, the kitchen floor, any furniture he can reach. DM lets him lick between her fingers and toes for 15 minutes at a time.
  • He drags his arse along the carpet regularly - "He's clean, he just has allergies and needs to itch."

The problem I'm having is that DM is at the point where she feels it's unfair for her dog to have to change any routines/behaviours when he's here. She locks my cats in the lounge because he chases them, serves his meals on the kitchen floor, allows him to chew and lick anything he pleases, and gets extremely defensive and angry if DD or I tell him to stop.

Yday evening, I was getting to my wit's end with it. He'd chased the cats twice, wouldn't stop licking anything and everything, and was dragging his arse across the lounge floor.

Any look or comment was met with barely contained fury by DM, who eventually (because I'd literally turned my head to look at what the slurping noise in the middle of the kitchen floor was) said "Fine, if you won't stop going on about it, I'll take him home - come on, [DDog]."

I pointed out that I didn't think it was unreasonable to not want him licking everything or scraping his literal arsehole across the carpet repeatedly, but she's in a major huff now and has said she no longer feels comfortable at my home.

AIBU? Are these normal dog behaviours people tolerate in their houses? Is this just to be expected/accepted when a relative comes to stay and won't leave their dog with someone else?

I'm feeling hurt and defensive that DM has prioritised the dog over me and DD (as it feels to me) but she's obviously hurt too. Would welcome any outside perspectives on this.

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Relearningbehaviour · 03/09/2024 13:46

Can you stick to visiting at her house instead. I wouldn't like this either and I like most animals!

CeruleanBelt · 03/09/2024 13:47

Oh god that's disgusting, and i love dogs.

That dog wouldn't be welcome in my house. Licking, butt scraping and humping 😲

Getorganised · 03/09/2024 13:48

That’s absolutely disgusting. She’s a bad owner as it sounds like a spoilt untrained dog. Also just rotisserie chicken is that good for dogs ?

BMW6 · 03/09/2024 13:49

YANBU in any way and I love dogs!

The arse dragging sounds like his anal glands need to be looked at by a vet........

And if he can ejaculate surely he should be neutered?

Commonsense22 · 03/09/2024 13:50

The only one that doesn't seem unreasonable to me is sleeping in the bed with her.
All the others sound pretty awful.

Campergirls1 · 03/09/2024 13:51

Bloody hell but that is grim reading.

Yanbu at all.

TangerinePlate · 03/09/2024 13:51

Your mother is barking mad.
Maybe the dog needs to be wormed or have his anal glands checked?

Gymmum82 · 03/09/2024 13:52

It sounds like he has a significant anal gland issue and needs a trip to the vets for the arse rubbing. That is not normal and the poor dog must be SO uncomfortable if he is doing that constantly.
The licking as well isn’t normal. But that is a behavioural issue. Likely caused by anxiety.
I wouldn’t want the dog in my home. Can you visit her or limit her visits to just the day time preferably with the dog put in doggy daycare for the day?

MissMoneyFairy · 03/09/2024 13:53

Has he got worms, itchy scooting bum. She's spoilt him, I wouldn't have him in my house with her pampering to him, either she visits on her own or you go to her house.

Feelingleftoutagain · 03/09/2024 13:54

I own a dog and wouldn't accept any of this! If it's scaping his bum on the floor it's because his anal gland needs sorting, quick trip to groomers sorts that out. Food on floor gross! Rotisserie chicken all the time can't be healthy, humping is a dog thing but not to that extent, I had my castrated at an early age so he doesn't do it. I would say only visit her house and change your clothes when home from her house The dog needs proper training

Allthecatseverywhereallatonce · 03/09/2024 13:55

That is grim. My parents have a dog which they dote on, but, it cannot come in to my house as I have cats and it is their home.
I wouldn't allow a dog to come in and chase them.
Would your mum respect that?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 03/09/2024 13:57

I certainly wouldn’t have a dog come in that behaves like that to the house cats.

Hecatoncheires · 03/09/2024 13:57

I understand why your mum is so attached to her dog but she's really not doing him any favours. The humping should be dealt with right away by neutering. And the dragging of his butt needs vet attention to sort out his anal glands. Dogs lick to soothe themselves so there's something not right with the poor pup, whether physical or emotional. The poor dog sounds like he's living in a state of anxiety and/or unfocussed energy. I love dogs and have one myself but I wouldn't put up with those behaviours.

AnnaMagnani · 03/09/2024 13:57

Going through your points in order:

No it's bonkers
Also bonkers
Totally normal, loads of people sleep with their dogs
Normal, lots of dogs have separation anxiety
Humping- no that's gross he needs checking by the vet
Licking- also gross, your DM seems to delight in not training her dog
Itching- again needs the vet

Your DM comes across as someone who loves her dog but cannot provide what it actually needs: appropriate and timely vetinary care and training

Ourshoddyhouse · 03/09/2024 13:59

Sleeping on the bed I couldn't get worked up about, surely the bedding gets washed? Stick some vamoosh in the wash with it.

That dog is not getting a complete & balanced diet if all it eats is chicken (which a lot of dogs are intolerant too any way) probably constipated from lack of fibre and suffering from anal gland issues. Could explain the itchiness too.

Separation anxiety can be worked on, if she actually wanted to.

All the other stuff is gross.

MillyMollyMandHey · 03/09/2024 14:00

God no, yanbu.

How can your DM think it's appropriate to take this nonsense into anyone's home?

Blackberriesandcobwebs · 03/09/2024 14:03

He needs a visit to the vet to get his anal glands clearing (or he has worms) hence the bum dragging/scooting, and he needs the snip before he'd cross my threshold again, especially for harassing Dcats!
Yuck (and I love dogs!)
Sounds like Ddog has not been properly trained and rules the roost!

OhMyGodAChicken · 03/09/2024 14:04

Thanks for all the replies so far - I felt 1) like I was going a bit mad and 2) like I'd been really unreasonable and harsh to DM and DDog.

To answer some questions:

  • Visiting at her house: Will defo try and do this more - she's a half-hour drive away. She asked to come and stay for a few days as she has some health issues and wanted company.
  • Training: The dog's had no training and doesn't go to doggy daycare (he "doesn't do well outside his home"). He has no recall or road sense, and doesn't respond to being told off. If you try and get something out of his mouth (he grabs and tries to eat anything, incl. poo bags), he snarls and tries to bite. He's not aggressive at any other time IME.
  • Anal glands: DM says he's got hayfever and is just generally itchy. He does also roll and scrape his muzzle all over the carpet too, so maybe true? But still - I don't want a dog dragging his arsehole on my carpet.
  • Licking: she says "he's just a licker" and "the vet says he has doggy ADHD."
  • Humping: Dog is neutered but still gets erections and humps a lot. Obviously there's moisture there - I don't know if he fully ejaculates or what 🤢
  • Cat chasing: DM says he doesn't chase cats (despite three noisy, frantic, growly attempts to catch mine), locks the cats in the lounge, and says the cats should scare him off by hissing.

I'm at the point where I just don't think I want her to bring the dog here at all, but I know it'll mean her visiting less and feeling less able to stay over when she's not feeling her best. She already misses out on many (quite meaningful - not just routine) event invites because "I'll be out with the dog."

But I have a responsibility to my cats (both rescues, one very nervous) and boundaries around the general hygiene in my house.

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Allthehorsesintheworld · 03/09/2024 14:06

OhMyGodAChicken · 03/09/2024 13:43

I'll preface this post by saying I'm not really a dog person. I like them well enough, grew up with them, and fuss on friends' pets, but I don't want one for myself. DM is convinced I hate dogs, most especially hers.

The latest situation culminated in her sloping off home from ours, where she's been staying (with dog), last night in a huff.

DM's life centres on this dog. She lives alone with him and he provides her with company and a reason to get out and about to meet people.

However, there's a list of his "requirements" (not sure how many are real, how many have been created by DM, and how many are just DM's claims) that makes it really hard work having him to stay with her - or actually doing anything much.

  • He will only eat rotisserie chicken from the supermarket. It has to be served on the floor as he's "scared" of dishes.
  • Likewise, he will only drink water from a glass, and it has to be refreshed three times a day. I've seen him gobble up cat food and water from my pets' dishes, and he eats literal shit when out on walks.
  • He has to sleep in the bed with DM, so any bedding I put on the guest bed, I have to be happy for the dog to sleep in.
  • He doesn't like the car and "can't be left", so any outings have to be short and/or near to DM's, and dog-friendly venues.
  • He regularly humps cushions and blankets for 15-20 minutes. After he did it to my sofa cushions, DM brings a blanket he's allowed to hump. She advises my DD not to sit on it in case there's ejaculate on it.
  • He licks everything. EVERYTHING. "He's just a licker" - we're talking aggressive licking and slurping carpets, sofas, cushions, DD, the kitchen floor, any furniture he can reach. DM lets him lick between her fingers and toes for 15 minutes at a time.
  • He drags his arse along the carpet regularly - "He's clean, he just has allergies and needs to itch."

The problem I'm having is that DM is at the point where she feels it's unfair for her dog to have to change any routines/behaviours when he's here. She locks my cats in the lounge because he chases them, serves his meals on the kitchen floor, allows him to chew and lick anything he pleases, and gets extremely defensive and angry if DD or I tell him to stop.

Yday evening, I was getting to my wit's end with it. He'd chased the cats twice, wouldn't stop licking anything and everything, and was dragging his arse across the lounge floor.

Any look or comment was met with barely contained fury by DM, who eventually (because I'd literally turned my head to look at what the slurping noise in the middle of the kitchen floor was) said "Fine, if you won't stop going on about it, I'll take him home - come on, [DDog]."

I pointed out that I didn't think it was unreasonable to not want him licking everything or scraping his literal arsehole across the carpet repeatedly, but she's in a major huff now and has said she no longer feels comfortable at my home.

AIBU? Are these normal dog behaviours people tolerate in their houses? Is this just to be expected/accepted when a relative comes to stay and won't leave their dog with someone else?

I'm feeling hurt and defensive that DM has prioritised the dog over me and DD (as it feels to me) but she's obviously hurt too. Would welcome any outside perspectives on this.

Points 1-3 are ridiculous. That’s a terrible diet for a dog and she’s likely shortening his life by feeding it.
Humping — has he been neutered? He should be asap if not already. More exercise often cures it.
Excessive licking is a sign of stress.
Dragging his bum means his anal glands need emptying, possibly linked to his bad diet.
No dog needs to sleep on a human’s bed, he should be trained to sleep on his own bed or in a crate.

Sorry, didn’t mean to quote your whole post and can’t edit it out.

Therealjudgejudy · 03/09/2024 14:06

How discusting!!

ToBeOrNotToBee · 03/09/2024 14:08

I'm a dog lover and owner.

I would be horrified, genuinely horrified if either of my dogs attempted half the things your mums dog does.

I'm sure she loves him, but no, that dog would not be welcome in my home.

RwcieptDilema · 03/09/2024 14:10

He's got anal gland issues because he's only eating rotisserie chicken!!

Sounds like he has allergies too with the scratching and licking. He might not get along with chicken.

Ownedbydogs · 03/09/2024 14:10

I’ve 4 dogs and I’d never put up with anything like that from my own dogs never mind one visiting! Keep visits to hers and keep your own pets safe from his chasing. Never mind the butt dragging and the licking. If he’s hungry he’ll eat from a bowl same as drinking from a water dish

OhMyGodAChicken · 03/09/2024 14:12

Also thank you to those of you who've mentioned the chicken as a potential allergen - I'll try and raise that once DM has stopped sulking.

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Ownedbydogs · 03/09/2024 14:12

RwcieptDilema · 03/09/2024 14:10

He's got anal gland issues because he's only eating rotisserie chicken!!

Sounds like he has allergies too with the scratching and licking. He might not get along with chicken.

This aswell! Rotisserie chicken isn’t a balanced diet and many dogs are sensitive to chicken. He needs a visit to the vet to look into his allergies and proper food