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Am I Pathetically jealous or justifiably miffed?

225 replies

Dragonsandelves · 15/08/2024 23:11

I am a single mum to 3 kids, 2 with additional needs. Love them to bits as goes without saying, but due to their high needs there are no instagram worthy pics of days out / first days at school/ perfect smiley family etc. we take each day as it comes, roll with the neurodiverse meltdowns (intense) and as long as my kids are fed and alive and loved by the end of the day and I’ve brushed my teeth once it’s a win. You get the picture.
my brother has twins of 8 months with a gorgeous (inside and out) wife and they live overseas, we aren’t very close but no bad relations, we just live in different worlds (they have Nannies, housekeepers, multiple houses across the world, and post lots on social media). Am i happy for him? Yes. Am I jealous? Yes. Do I feel an idiot for feeling jealous? Yes, but it is what it is.

my issue: when the twins were born his wife set up a what’s app group for her extensive family (think parents, stepparents, siblings, cousins) who all live in different countries to keep them up to date with cute pics/ videos/ updates of the twins. Lovely idea. My brother then kindly added me without asking me, fair enough, it’s a nice thought. But omg every day around 24 messages come in from each family member
commenting on the twins outfit that day, their smile, what activity they are doing and while it’s great they have this large extended family who adore them, it’s slowly eating me up, I have no family other than my Brother, no one to send 5
messages applauding my kids smiling (not that they often do and never on demand) but somehow it’s making it painfully obvious that my kids have…me and that’s it, The jealously is creeping in and every message makes me feel angry and it’s such a rotten feeling, I don’t feel I can exit the group without looking rude, I’ve muted it so I don’t get pinged all day with 9 X “wow! Is that a half blueberry F is trying? WELL DONE!” But I have to catch up at the end of a few days and add my
own “well done!” Or I am the only one not doing it and it looks rude ☹️

i think I’m especially on edge this week as i got hit with a wicked electricity bill and parking ticket on the same day that on the chat are offers to buy them the next step up double buggy for £2500 and talk of a weekend at Xmas in a chalet for them (I could go but would need to pay my way and that could never happen financially or with my kids coping in a ski chalet). So it feels like it’s rubbing it in my face that they have an army of family behind them to adore them and financially support them and my kids … don’t, And I know that’s just life but somehow this active group entirely dedicated to the twins makes me feel really envious.

i need to know if I’m being reasonable in which case what the hell do I do as I don’t want to cause offence, and if I’m not do I simply have to try and suck it up?

OP posts:
BurntBroccoli · 16/08/2024 09:45

Yes it would bother me too - I would just say you are having a break from social media and delete the group.

largeeyes · 16/08/2024 09:45

Urgh just leave. It sounds tedious AF and I have kids myself and would never spam everyone with millions of pictures every day because I recognise that the world doesnt revolve around me.

Look, there are lots of people in this group so I doubt they'll even notice too much if you leave if there are 24 comments daily. I'd just put in a message saying "what lovely pics!- so glad you're all doing well. I'm taking a little social media break for now as I've got so much on- see you all soon" then leave.

Anyone who gets offended by that is a dickhead.

Hankunamatata · 16/08/2024 09:48

Op don't look at it. Mute and archive. They don't need your comments. I doubt brother will notice.

Sceptical123 · 16/08/2024 09:48

Username75184 · 15/08/2024 23:25

Why are you concerned about offending them? They aren't concerned about your feelings.

Exactly this. Your brother and SIL know your situation. If you withdrew quietly then it would be really out of order of them to comment or take offence, unless the comment was to ask if you are ok.

This is and example of ppl well and truly up their own arses.

If you’re worried about leaving straight away then try muting the convo - if bro takes umbrage at lack of comments ask if he is at all aware how stressful and busy your life is - turn it back on him, he has young twins but you are raising 3 kids, 2 with additional needs ON YOUR OWN.

He should be ashamed at his lack of empathy and awareness - and support to you and DN’s

readingismycardio · 16/08/2024 09:52

This is how I feel but I’m so nervous I look like a kid on Xmas day who throws
her toys out the pram as I know I should just be happy for them 😣

Being happy for them doesn't

DoreenonTill8 · 16/08/2024 09:53

LittleLittleRex · 16/08/2024 08:29

I don't think you should leave the group or tell your brother it makes you uncomfortable. This is a you problem, you will meet a lot of different people with different lives and have to learn to cope with it in a way that doesn't cause you pain.

This is a woman who has had twins and who feels her loving family are far away, she wants them (including you) to be a part of her children's lives. That's why she set up the group.

If you want your children to have a large extended family, don't start by pushing away family who want to include you and are nice to you, that would be mad.

Mute the group, flick through the pictures occasionally if you care about your brother and his kids. Stay in touch with your brother separately and start taking photos of your kids, even if imperfect photos, they'll be lovely to people that love you.

This, a sensible post in all the bitchy nastiness towards the SIL and 2 babies under the guise of 'being kind'....
I agree with pp who are not encouraging op to see this whatsapp group as some bizarrely targeted 'we are better than you' showcase, and just a happy group of new parents sharing their babies' photos.

readingismycardio · 16/08/2024 09:54

Sorry pressed send too soon. Being happy for them doesn't mean you can't feel sad for yourself. You sound like a lovely, kind person, you don't sound bitter at all. you are just overwhelmed and rightly so. Just leave the damn group

KateDelRick · 16/08/2024 09:54

Username75184 · 15/08/2024 23:25

Why are you concerned about offending them? They aren't concerned about your feelings.

This. You say they're lovely people, but they obviously are oblivious to your struggles. I would come off the WhatsApp because it's really not good for you.

FredericC · 16/08/2024 09:56

It's honestly fine for you to mute the group and archive. Pop in as and when you feel like it, if you wish to. It's fine to leave it too.

Happyher · 16/08/2024 09:57

I would have a quiet word with your brother and explain that though you love him and his family to bits you are going through a difficult time at the moment and want to withdraw from the WhatsApp group for a while. Stay in touch with him on WhatsApp so you can keep up to date with him and also tell him how you’re doing.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2024 09:58

Charlize43 · 16/08/2024 00:12

“Comparison is the thief of joy…”

I would mute or remove yourself from the group as clearly it is upsetting to you.

This is what is ruining youngster who follow others on instagram and who are left feeling deficient for not having perfect glamorous picture perfect lives.

Edited

THIS!!

My young relative is dating a seriously uber wealthy {Private jet wealth} person and it's another life.
Very glamorous indeed.

Comparison definitely is the thief of joy.

Social media can definitely cause so many upsets.

I too have people in extended family who have generations of accumulated inherited wealth, and without a doubt it makes their lives so 'easy'. Financially at least.

FreshFelt · 16/08/2024 09:58

Who sets up a WhatsApp group just about their children.?

Its totally insensitive and i understand your feelings.

FreshFelt · 16/08/2024 09:59

Happyher · 16/08/2024 09:57

I would have a quiet word with your brother and explain that though you love him and his family to bits you are going through a difficult time at the moment and want to withdraw from the WhatsApp group for a while. Stay in touch with him on WhatsApp so you can keep up to date with him and also tell him how you’re doing.

This is good advice.

minthybobs · 16/08/2024 09:59

Sceptical123 · 16/08/2024 09:48

Exactly this. Your brother and SIL know your situation. If you withdrew quietly then it would be really out of order of them to comment or take offence, unless the comment was to ask if you are ok.

This is and example of ppl well and truly up their own arses.

If you’re worried about leaving straight away then try muting the convo - if bro takes umbrage at lack of comments ask if he is at all aware how stressful and busy your life is - turn it back on him, he has young twins but you are raising 3 kids, 2 with additional needs ON YOUR OWN.

He should be ashamed at his lack of empathy and awareness - and support to you and DN’s

Second this. If they really are so lovely and kind then they should be able to fully appreciate that you have 3 kids, are a single mum and two of your kids have high needs. They’d be lacking in any kind of human empathy not to see that this WhatsApp group isn’t and can’t be your priority right now.

If they get offended by you leaving (and you should just quietly leave) then they really aren’t quite as lovely as you make out.

KateDelRick · 16/08/2024 09:59

They're being very insensitive and self absorbed. They're very fortunate people, but really at best a bit thoughtless.

MilkyCappuchino · 16/08/2024 10:00

They do not live close to you. Very easy to ignore. But your brother is very nice tbh

Itssamemario · 16/08/2024 10:06

I'm sorry life is so shit right now ❤

Mute and archive. If your brother asks you why you haven't participated in a while just say life is so busy you're barely on your phone, and leave it at that.

No point trying to explain your situation because in my experience, most people don't understand and their reaction leaves you feeling even shittier and more alienated than before.

And also, you sound like an absolute rock star of a mum ❤

Unicorntearsofgin · 16/08/2024 10:06

You know you can just mute the group and notifications? Then no offence will be caused but you dont have to see it unless you choose.

BellaBlythe · 16/08/2024 10:06

I understand, I used to grind my teeth at the roundrobin letters at Christmas from American cousins before internet.
To keep the peace, is it possible to set up a different account for these to go into? I have a different email for business so that I don't get that in my personal account. I can dip into either when I choose. Note when I choose.

Newposter180 · 16/08/2024 10:08

I think your feelings are understandable. Personally, I’d archive but not leave the group. You can pop on even once a month to say something or gradually phase it out altogether. It will probably calm down anyway as they get older.
If your brother is your only family though, don’t blow up that relationship and try to keep in regular contact. If you’re receiving lots of unsolicited updates about his kids, why don’t you send some (just to him) of your own? “X managed to [brush his own teeth today]” or whatever is a genuine achievement for yours. It sounds like you’re understandably fairly closed off about your life, but this might actually help him to understand the differences and be a bit more sensitive/supportive going forward? If you’ve never spelled out how difficult things are, he maybe doesn’t actually realise. For the sake of your own family, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt initially.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2024 10:08

FreshFelt · 16/08/2024 09:58

Who sets up a WhatsApp group just about their children.?

Its totally insensitive and i understand your feelings.

OP was probably added to the group, but can just mute it.

They probably won't even notice if she exits it - people seem to go dotty over Twins, especially first borns.

However, Instagram - that's another story entirely

Would NEVER post about children on there, as there are so many creeps.

A woman on social media makes good money out of her child, but it's been exposed as really sinister.

Keep kids videos and pics off social media.

PrincessOlga · 16/08/2024 10:10

Somehow these "perfect families" make me suspicious. They just do not exist in the real world. I bet, if you were to forensically take them apart, your family would actually be more "perfect" and "authentic".

Repeat: such families do not exist in the real world (or, if they exist, are like one of those radioactive atomic particles with a half-life of one month).

HelenWheels · 16/08/2024 10:11

can you disable whatsapp?

largeeyes · 16/08/2024 10:11

If you’re receiving lots of unsolicited updates about his kids, why don’t you send some (just to him) of your own? “X managed to [brush his own teeth today]” or whatever is a genuine achievement for yours. It sounds like you’re understandably fairly closed off about your life, but this might actually help him to understand the differences and be a bit more sensitive/supportive going forward? If you’ve never spelled out how difficult things are, he maybe doesn’t actually realise

Actually, this is a really good idea. It might drive it home to him the challenges you face and it may make him see why you feel uncomfortable without actually having to spell it out. I wonder if you've not spelled out to him how difficult life is at the moment as you dont want him to worry and women have a tendency to just get on with it. But this might bring it home to him and illustrate in a way where you dont have to have an awkward conversation. You have every right to be just as proud of your lovely kids as he is!

itsgettingweird · 16/08/2024 10:11

Dragonsandelves · 15/08/2024 23:28

I’m so bad at being honest upfront 🙁I’m nervous my brother will be hurt because I’m his only biological family member on it (everyone else is his in laws). I really don’t want to come across as rude to them all especially my brother. Moving isn’t an option for me, I’m in a housing association house near my kids schools that specialise in additional needs and have my part time job during school hours. Moving abroad is as likely as me moving to the moon (sadly).

Perhaps word it like that.

"Hey brother, it's so lovely your wife has a huge family and I love hearing about the twins. However I'm sure you understand it's just us our side and I have 3 to look after - 2 of which have significant send and needs. The number of messages on that group is overwhelming with all I'm juggling. Can you remove me from the big chat and set one up just for us that I can keep up with and we can share news of all the kids on?"

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