Daily mail article, integration has failed in Germany. Aibu to agree with article?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687565/Children-radicalised-mosques-11-knives-crime-verdict-German-child-refugee-charity-integration-failed-asylum-seekers.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=

Aibu to agree to an extent?

Ah, you think the OP raised because the rioters were Romanian immigrants?

Can you confirm that OP?

This is the last reply to you. No the man obviously didn't integrate well if he was living in a homeless hostel after being in Ireland 20 years. This in itself shows that integration is not being managed if a man has been in the country for 20 years & is still relying on the state for shelter, living allowance & healthcare.

Strange question. The Leeds riots are probably more pertinent to the topic than the Southport riots, because they relate to a group of migrants who are not well integrated.

He was living in homeless accommodation after living in Ireland 20 years. If you call that integrating properly into Irish society you need your head examined.

I never said he had or hadn't.

Plenty of Irish born people are also in homeless accommodation ,no doubt.

What have they not integrated into?

Looking at Wikipedia, it does look like the child in question has Romanian citizenship. Not clear if the child and the people involved in rioting were immigrants or simply dual nationals. The social media on this certainly didn't play out as this being a group of Romanians rioting!

But I am interested in whether that's why the OP raised it. Seems a tenuous link to be honest - systematic discrimination against the Roma community is a centuries old issue in the UK and Europe and not one particularly linked to immigration that I'm aware of.

Who? The arrested man called Mark?

You have made that clear now.

But you have just once again repeated the idea that he failed to integrate so I'm a bit confused.

I'm not sure why you are threatening me. Or what with.

I mentioned them to point out to an Op that I don't agree with rioting of any kind. The Leeds riots are still fresh in the publics mind, now Southport. If anything it shows how situations & tensions can escalate so quickly. Is there a reason why the Leeds riots shouldn't be mentioned that I am unaware of? I have also mentioned the Dublin riots last year which have you an issue with this too?

Who’s Mark? Ah, I see… perhaps you have identified an unrepresentative example among the 20+ arrested and patting yourself on the back for concocting some sort of misleading ‘gotcha’?

The school holidays have a lot to answer for.

Just to be crystal clear, they weren't Romanian immigrants.

Systematic discrimination against Romanian’s in the UK for centuries?
Can you elaborate?

You blatently said I insinuated he attacked the children BECAUSE of his nationality.

It's in the article the OP originally posted form ITV about the riots. It said tow were arrested, one was named Mark something very ordinary.

I have no idea if it is representative form the sample of two named men in the article.

I doubt you do either.

The Leeds riots were led by the Romanian community, according to news articles.
Is this incorrect?

Yes there absolutely is many, many Irish homeless too I'm sure. I'll google now for stats.
The government & society has failed to get these people both Irish & non Irish integrated into society to live independently. It is a travesty that is not being addressed enough across Europe. So much more needs to be done.
To me proper integration means shelter, food, warmth, ability to love independent from the state, proficient in the local language, access to healthcare, ability to clothe oneself, children receiving a stellar education.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0728/1462264-homeless-figures/

@Piggywaspushed according to this article over 4,000 CHILDREN in Ireland are living in homeless accommodation.

Ethnicity was the word I used as it goes.

Note for future - you can just say man . The man who attacked the children. But that wouldn't have worked in your post because you followed it up with your point about integration. I agree you did not mention religion which you said others had accused you of blaming (and at first blamed me for this). But you specifically raised a new event (like you have done throughout the thread) so one can only assume that you felt it was helpful to your cause : that it was to do with that man's failure to integrate into non Algerian culture - which, yes, does imply (maybe not intentionally) that Algerian culture is murderous and hate fuelled and infanticidal. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are saying. I didn't fellow the case closely but I assume the man is now incarcerated.

Also, note for future accusations. It's blatant.

Over and out.

This is a bit like trying to have a discussion with the frogs that sit around our garden pond in the evening.
But worse - much worse.

No, its correct.

That sounds a bit threatening.

Why? Why should I just say man? Why should any nationality be glossed over? I'm proud to be English, I'll always refer to myself as English. The media referred to the man as Algerian why can't I? The media didn't refer to him "a man" like you are suggesting I should!
Why exactly are you trying to police my speech & tell me what to say?

The Wikipedia pages says that the arrests were of Romanian citizens (not necessarily immigrants of course) and that the Romanian embassy is supporting the family of the child. Appreciate not all Roma Gypsies are Romanian, but the child in question does appear to be (but may not be an immigration). I don't have a clue who led the riots but I suspect no one particular group in reality. This doesn't appear to have been organized in any way.

But anyway, the OP says she just mentioned them as an example of a riot and to show that she condemns all riots. Although her using her reference to Dublin aw also supporting her general condemnation and not (for example) Ely, means I am having to work very hard to believe that Leeds was only mentioned because it was recent and not because she thought it supported her anti-immigration stance.

You lost me at daily fail….