Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise

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How and where will the government get the money from I wonder?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqe82lk5g5o

Nope but given that historically workers in the public sector were paid less to account for that I’m unclear why you think that should drive a 10% difference in payrises over the past 10 years. Also while public sector pensions are very good they are actually less generous than they were historically.

They don't take that as payment in tesco today though...

Not to mention that the junior doctors have to give up about 8% of their meagre salary now to access that in 45 years (if they live that long).

Also, it isn’t put in a pot that you can pass onto your children after you die (unless they are young and then they’ll get a bit for a few years). and most of it dies with you if you’re unmarried.

@bakebeans you know that doctor who comes to see you at 2am because the nurses bleeped them as you are getting sicker ? That's an F1. You know that doctor who prescribes your child's pain relief or antibiotic in A&E ? That's an F1.

They are v much fully qualified, but they are very sensible and will ask if even slightly unsure (as will all medical staff). They are clever enough to know nurses know a lot of stuff as they have the luxury of being on a ward for more than 4 months at a time.
Yes a senior doctor is nominally supervising them, but this usually means they glance at the treatment plan.

By F2 they are completely unsupervised and could be delivering your baby at 2am. For £18 an hour.

Pensions do not pay rent or bills now.

@mumsneedwine im well aware. I’m a nurse and have worked in a medical admissions unit for over 10 years. Often working with tired FY1 fresh out of medical school and FY2 I think you’ve quoted the wrong person. I support the pay rise.

@bakebeans apologies 🥰. And thank our for liking our for those F1s. They need a hug occasionally