Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise

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How and where will the government get the money from I wonder?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqe82lk5g5o

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cancelling large infrastructure projects like the underground bypass at Stonehenge

Where do the government get their money to pay their other workers a living wage? There. Junior doctors have had a pay CUT of this amount and it’s getting them back to where they should have been. Maybe if your wages had been cut by a third compared to inflation for working in increasingly dangerous conditions then you wouldn’t be asking!

Good. Let’s hope that more are prepared to stay in the profession.

Hello inflation!

They had to end the strike. And UK doctors are underpaid. They’re cancelling other proposed projects to fund it.

Good.

Doctors should be well compensated.

Over the last decade it has been turned into poorly paid, high stress, shift work for the majority.

Nearly every doctor I know has emigrated or changed careers. I must know 30 people who started out in medicine, and only one of those currently practices in the UK

Thank god! Time this was sorted and Labour have no other option.

Or maybe they could sack all the more expensive PAs and that money will go to paying doctors. Easy.

Oh and various new/rebuild hospital projects are also slated to be cancelled

Good. Hope it settles the strike and keeps our doctors in the profession.

I haven’t seen the details, but it’s madness junior Drs start on £32k. If it’s targeted at those earning least I think it will be a good policy. We are haemorrhaging Drs after all and it’s more cost effective to get them to stay once we’ve trained them.

Great news for junior doctors!

I hope a thought is eventually also spared to pharmacy employees who are taking on a lot more work nowadays - minimum wage job with A LOT of responsibility as well.

It’s coming from the magic money tree

Having worked in the NHS I’d say they could make huge savings by sacking a lot of the useless admin staff who are only there to drain as much as they can from their employers.

In the team I worked in you could have sacked 50% of them and it would have had absolutely no negative effect on the running of the hospital whatsoever.

Exactly, all these raises will just make prices increase for everybody.

Doubt that they will be able to fund much spending via debt.

Why do people think the markets reacted that badly to Liz Truss ?

I think junior doctors deserve more pay. The hours they are expected to do are silly.

However, I think that that pay should to some degree by pay frewezing people higher up the food chain. Consultants often get paid ridiculous amounts of money.

The problem is there is too much money at the end of the career and not enough at the beginning.

20-40% of the total value of the uplift will be immediately recouped in paye tax. Then the doctors will presumably buy 'stuff' which will generate further tax revenue.

The starting salary is poor - but even after 10 years it’s not much to write home about.

Given these people need to get straight As, study for years, continue training while working, travel around the country, work shifts etc…. Not really that appealing vs a whole host of far more lucrative careers.

So you will take a 30% pay cut then? Why is it junior doctors that should take a hit for everyone else?!

The bigger problem is that there are not enough jobs or training places for doctors when they reach the end of F2.

More pay means cut budgets, more Physician Associates and more of our young doctors having to either move to Australia or find careers outside medicine. A huge waste.

Consultants REALLY don’t!

Shake that magic money tree!

How will it be paid for? Well the left of centre MNetters will point to the £700m saved from the Rwanda debacle. But I'd like to think the government is setting aside funding for another model to stop the boats.

They have to though. Junior drs pay hasn’t kept up with inflation for years. So many are leaving for other jobs, private work or to go abroad.