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Men are too comfortable in public

223 replies

Throwwaway · 23/07/2024 18:32

This is the first time I’ve really noticed it but as I was playing with my son in a park, a man was on the phone with his hand literally inside his trousers as he paced. Every now and then he’s pull it out and scratch his balls and put it back in. Like all the way in. It’s weird. I could never get away with doing this. It’s rude and I don’t want to have to see that. I feel like this wouldn’t have happened 50-100 years ago and it’s slobbish and disgusting not to mention unhygienic. I feel unreasonable for being annoyed at this. They’re so comfortable in society that the park is like their bedroom apparently. Whereas women often feel the need to make themselves as small as possible in society. Rant over.

Men are too comfortable in public
Men are too comfortable in public
OP posts:
mrsdineen2 · 24/07/2024 09:07

Throwwaway · 23/07/2024 23:12

This is not the issue at the moment. Now you are deliberately finding fault with what I do. It's obviously personal to you and it shouldn't be. (also 12 is not a teenager but I don't want to be petty)
This is irrelevant. Just negativity we don't need.

Yeah OP, nothing but positivity (and creepy voyeur pics) on your threads.

Throwwaway · 24/07/2024 09:09

On another note, this reminds me of a moral ‘dilemma’ we talked about when I was at school:
Kate Middleton was photographed sunbathing topless in France by journalists/paparazzi.
everyone else in my class thought the photographers were in the wrong. Maybe it’s because I’m French lol but I’m on their ‘side’
I understand both sides though. This has become a different debate but interesting especially in this age. Taking photos of strangers is very normalised among my generation too. This will get more and more relevant in society.

OP posts:
mrsdineen2 · 24/07/2024 09:18

Scratching an itch - morally wrong. Disgusting misogyny.

Using advanced spy-grade electronics to take perverted and violating photographs from a great distance of a young woman who could rightfully believe she's in a private setting - you're on their side.

Whatever's going on in your head must be fascinating, but sadly I'm in the wrong profession.

Ilovetuesdays · 24/07/2024 09:21

I can't believe the posters making excuses for this disgusting specimen. I hope he is identified and given a telling off by his father/mother/girlfriend/mates for his revolting behaviour in public.
One of the reasons for a decline in standards of male behaviour is no-one (apart from the wonderful poster upthread) will speak up and shame these men. There used to be codes of acceptable behaviour, standards, morals and manners that kept them in check. Now they don't care and feel they can do what they like, where and when they feel like it and they don't care who sees them because they face no consequences.
And before anyone points out he was 'only scratching his balls' think about it - would you like your child's teacher, swimming instructor or doctor doing that in front of them?

LordPercyPercy · 24/07/2024 09:22

I mean surely "don't touch your genitals in public" isn't even a high bar? No-one is deserving of privacy and protection to touch themselves in a public place. Do that at home please.

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 24/07/2024 09:25

I love how his comfort comes before mine 😂

How would not posting this picture have made you uncomfortable?

nameynamenamenamename · 24/07/2024 09:33

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 24/07/2024 09:25

I love how his comfort comes before mine 😂

How would not posting this picture have made you uncomfortable?

Missing the point.

OP means that people are putting the man’s “right to scratch genitalia in public without having a photo taken” above her “right to not have to see someone fondle themselves in public”

Hummingbird75 · 24/07/2024 09:38

It is utterly gross and should be illegal.

mm81736 · 24/07/2024 09:39

He is probably feeling comfortable because he didn't realise their was some weirdo taking pictures of them

LordPercyPercy · 24/07/2024 09:56

He is probably feeling comfortable because he didn't realise their was some weirdo taking pictures of them

Well he shouldn't have been. He was in public. He should have been taught as a toddler that we do that in private.

Anyway I doubt he cared. I've been walking down a busy pavement and seen blokes walking towards me fondling themselves like that.

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/07/2024 10:06

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/07/2024 18:48

This does happen but the picture here is a borderline situation: the guy could just be looking for his keys. Also a bit OTT to photograph him and put his picture on a national forum. It’s quite likely he was just being a bit of a slob and you wouldn’t like it if someone snapped you in your PJs and stuck in on Mumsnet.

I wouldn't wear PJs to the park. Or indeed, anywhere outside my house.

Greenlittecat · 24/07/2024 10:06

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/07/2024 10:06

I wouldn't wear PJs to the park. Or indeed, anywhere outside my house.

Plenty of people do though.

It's wrong to take pictures of people without their knowledge

AquaFurball · 24/07/2024 10:10

Cinocino · 23/07/2024 19:51

Their weird behaviour doesn’t excuse yours. It’s very disturbing to take photos of people in public and post it on the internet.

Did you miss the "playing in the park with a child" part of OP post? Guy walking around a park where children are playing with his hand in his pants and the OP is disturbing you?

Cantrushart · 24/07/2024 10:10

I see this every day at work and have snapped at them (students) to get their hands out of their trousers. The astonishment at the reprimand is incredible. It's like nobody has ever mentioned it to them. I was told by my manager that it had been brave of me to address the situation, but probably best if I didn't do it again. Why not?
Just to clarify, the students are 16-21ish

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/07/2024 10:11

Greenlittecat · 24/07/2024 10:06

Plenty of people do though.

It's wrong to take pictures of people without their knowledge

Agreed. I'm not a fan. Re photos, I don't think taking photos of random people in public is illegal, if you aren't on private land. Might be weird but not illegal.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 24/07/2024 10:12

At the risk of mansplaining, there is nothing, nothing more irritating and uncomfortable than hot itchy, balls. Trust me on this.

Having said that, no way should a guy be scratching them in public.

TooManyObstacles · 24/07/2024 10:14

I'm waiting for somebody to come along and claim this guy as her dh, recognises the attire 😂

Greenlittecat · 24/07/2024 10:16

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/07/2024 10:11

Agreed. I'm not a fan. Re photos, I don't think taking photos of random people in public is illegal, if you aren't on private land. Might be weird but not illegal.

Yeah it's strange there aren't laws in place but I suppose it would be very difficult to police. I don't know and cba to Google but I wonder if you need a warrant to search someone phone?

DiamondTriangle · 24/07/2024 10:17

What would the reaction from the public be if a woman put her hands in her knickers and scratched her vagina in public ?

LordPercyPercy · 24/07/2024 10:17

At the risk of mansplaining, there is nothing, nothing more irritating and uncomfortable than hot itchy, balls. Trust me on this.

Same thing happens to fanny lips. Yet most women don't hook at themselves when out and about.

LadyCrumpet · 24/07/2024 10:20

OkPedro · 23/07/2024 18:52

I hope he doesn't keep his keys in his boxers 😆 come on now he's clearly having a scratch/ feel. I unfortunately see this regularly, usually teenagers

Well the female equivalent woul dbe keeping things in your bra, which I have done when I've had no pockets/bag.

Not things I'd give to other people to touch though. Thinking about it, I used to keep a lot in there, my fags and lighter, phone, tiny purse, bank card, car keys, door key😂Blush

Sharptonguedwoman · 24/07/2024 10:20

Greenlittecat · 24/07/2024 10:16

Yeah it's strange there aren't laws in place but I suppose it would be very difficult to police. I don't know and cba to Google but I wonder if you need a warrant to search someone phone?

I think you would need a warrant.

SerafinasGoose · 24/07/2024 10:21

TooManyObstacles · 24/07/2024 10:14

I'm waiting for somebody to come along and claim this guy as her dh, recognises the attire 😂

Not my Nigel ....

Applepencilplant · 24/07/2024 10:24

I saw a man move 'himself' yesterday in the middle of the street.
I saw an accupuncturist who spent the entire appointment fiddle/itching and reorganising himself. I didn't go back.

WickedSerious · 24/07/2024 10:27

Our next door neighbour will often stick his hand down his drawers and have a good old root around while he's talking to us.