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To not help my elderly baby boomer parents

299 replies

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:05

Baby Boomer parents still married and are in their mid-seventies. My DM hasn’t worked since she was in her early 50’s due to chronic poor health (fibromyalgia etc). She was part-time / self-employed most of her 40’s. They moved overseas in their mid-50’s and DF was able to get well-paying work (physically hard job). He was on good money for 10-15 years and retired at 70. My DM was in charge of the finances until she was diagnosed with dementia in her early 70’s due to FND, history of depression , anxiety , arthritis etc.

During her late 50’s-early 60’s she spent a lot of money on things such as cruises and holidays, surgeries (expensive dental work , bariatric surgery x 2, tummy tuck, face lift ) and things like jewellery. DF buried his head in the sand re: finances.

I am late Gen X, moved out of house at 18, was able to get a degree and pay off my large student loan. I’ve been with my DH since I was 19 and he has been very fortunate to earn a lot of money in recent years. Since we had our child I have not returned to work (I guess it’s a very traditional family set up ). Child is in primary school.

I live a 12 hour drive away or a quick flight from my parents (I moved to their country in 2010). My brother is even further away - 2 flights and never visits them. We have suggested many times that they move close to either my brother or myself but they have refused. My child is their only grandchild and they’ve met him about 7 times since he was born. They are not active grandparents at all - even when visiting.

My mother constantly rings me pleading poverty and is anxious about what will happen to her if DF dies before her. They have a meager pension and savings, their home is mortgage free. They live comfortably day to day on their pension.

She just called today to announce that DF‘S knees are in terrible condition and he needs at least one knee replacement. Would cost considerable if done privately. Stupidly they had great health insurance but had recently swapped to another company and didn’t realise joint replacements weren’t covered. I’m fuming at their stupidity. I’m also fuming that she wasted so much money and lived beyond her means (something they would have judge US on if we had done the same thing). His knees have been bad for a good 15 years. I asked about going public but she says it would be 9 years on the waiting list. They do have private super / savings they could use to pay private but I guess DM is not wanting to dip into this in case she needs it all later. I feel so awkward as I think she feels I should help her financially but DH is not keen on the idea. She’s a very shallow, gossipy woman so she hasn’t done herself any favours over the years (we aren’t very close ). Besides , he has his DM to think about.

AIBU not helping her or feeling obligated to do so?

OP posts:
tennesseewhiskey1 · 09/07/2024 14:11

Don’t help if you don’t want to - it’s your money. Tbf - it doesn’t seem like you’re close or that you like her an extraordinary amount so…. She will just have to dip into her savings, which are there for that.

LameBorzoi · 09/07/2024 14:13

Is the 9 years thing accurate? It seems a very long time for a country with a functioning public health system. If it's real, they did a very silly thing with changing that insurance

Despair1 · 09/07/2024 14:13

Depending on what their savings are (ie would they have much if they paid for op privately?), I would fund the op if you are in a position to do so. They are your parents!

ThistleWitch · 09/07/2024 14:14

Where are they, that waiting list is very long

Octavia64 · 09/07/2024 14:15

I wouldn't be helping,

The live comfortably on their pension and have a paid off house. Sounds like they wasted a lot of money and haven't really been involved in your life either.

Their problem.

They could always downsize to free up cash.

That's what I have done.

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:15

LameBorzoi · 09/07/2024 14:13

Is the 9 years thing accurate? It seems a very long time for a country with a functioning public health system. If it's real, they did a very silly thing with changing that insurance

I can’t trust what the says but it’s possible. It wouldn’t be deemed urgent , more elective so who knows…

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BeeCucumber · 09/07/2024 14:16

You are not close. Your mother has savings - she can afford the op but would rather spend your money. This is not your problem to solve.

Londonrach1 · 09/07/2024 14:16

Your money your choice. Help if you want to help, don't if you don't want too

ChristmasPostman · 09/07/2024 14:17

Surely the situation with the insurance not covering something he needs has to be your fathers own fault anyway? With your mother diagnosed with dementia he wouldn’t take her advice on insurance policies would he? No helpful advice sorry but of course you are not unreasonable not to fund any aspect of their lives. They have been given advice over the years which they have signally failed to take, but they are adults and must make their own choices and live with the consequences as we all do.

Wingedharpy · 09/07/2024 14:18

She has dementia so, how reliable is any of what she's saying to you?

ilovesooty · 09/07/2024 14:20

Help if you want to. Don't if you don't want to. Your husband doesn't want to anyway.

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:21

Despair1 · 09/07/2024 14:13

Depending on what their savings are (ie would they have much if they paid for op privately?), I would fund the op if you are in a position to do so. They are your parents!

They have about £200k in savings from what I can gather. She is saying surgery could cost £25k. I feel like this seems very high for one knee unless she’s confused and thinking it’s both knees.

It would technically be my DH that would help as I am a SAHM. It would be household funds.

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Marshfritillary · 09/07/2024 14:21

Why did you have to say in your heading that your parents are baby boomers? It's not relevant to your query, unless you want to just get the sympathy of baby boomer bashers. Half of baby boomers are not elderly and still working age. You said you are late Gen X, quite unnecessarily, so presumably only just younger than many baby boomers.

Westfacing · 09/07/2024 14:24

You are being very unreasonable, for using silly terms like Baby Boomers and Gen X.

minipie · 09/07/2024 14:24

They have savings, they should use their savings.

If they had nowt it might be a more complicated dilemma, but since they can afford to pay themselves the answer seems pretty clear.

Bignanna · 09/07/2024 14:26

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:21

They have about £200k in savings from what I can gather. She is saying surgery could cost £25k. I feel like this seems very high for one knee unless she’s confused and thinking it’s both knees.

It would technically be my DH that would help as I am a SAHM. It would be household funds.

They should be using their savings , not begging for yours!

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:26

Wingedharpy · 09/07/2024 14:18

She has dementia so, how reliable is any of what she's saying to you?

She was diagnosed with FND that has affected her cognitive ability. She is not senile like an alzheimers sufferer . She has memory issues but to all outward appearances is quite normal. You can have a regular conversation with her unnoticed. She loves to exaggerate things and loves drama so you always need to take what she’s saying with a grain of salt IYKWIM.

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Beamur · 09/07/2024 14:26

Google says private price of knee replacement is on average £14, 000.
Waiting list is unlikely to be 9 years. If you have a clinical need the waiting time for a first appointment is 18 weeks. NHS data.
Your Mum is not being truthful.
If they have savings they should use those first.

MigGirl · 09/07/2024 14:26

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:21

They have about £200k in savings from what I can gather. She is saying surgery could cost £25k. I feel like this seems very high for one knee unless she’s confused and thinking it’s both knees.

It would technically be my DH that would help as I am a SAHM. It would be household funds.

That's ridiculous, they have the money to pay for it themselves. Why should you fund it, they need to fund it themselves. I think you need to speak to your Dad about your mum handling their finances if she is early stage dementia as she probably needs to not be dealing with the finances anymore.

DGPP · 09/07/2024 14:29

I would pat but I adore my parents. You don’t clearly. So just say no if she asks directly. Otherwise, make sympathetic noises

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:29

Marshfritillary · 09/07/2024 14:21

Why did you have to say in your heading that your parents are baby boomers? It's not relevant to your query, unless you want to just get the sympathy of baby boomer bashers. Half of baby boomers are not elderly and still working age. You said you are late Gen X, quite unnecessarily, so presumably only just younger than many baby boomers.

Someone’s triggered, lol. They are classified as Baby Boomers. I am classified as Gen X. They are mid 70’s. I am mid forties. Calm down.

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mondaytosunday · 09/07/2024 14:31

What's with the 'boomer' and 'gen x' crap? Totally irrelevant.
You can do the research to find out the cost privately and how long the waiting lists are. Not hard. Whether you want to help out financially up to you, but if they really have £200k I wouldn't.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 09/07/2024 14:32

What a silly thread. Should you fund an operation for your parents if they have the money themselves? Probably not.

nc14 · 09/07/2024 14:32

They have the means to pay so I’d let them pay. You can always help them in the future if/ when they’re actually unable to pay for something they need, or not.

LameBorzoi · 09/07/2024 14:33

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:15

I can’t trust what the says but it’s possible. It wouldn’t be deemed urgent , more elective so who knows…

You need some more reliable information. You can't make any decisions based on this. It may be just that dad has made a silly decision because he didn't do the finances previously, but dropping joint replacement from the insurance if you live in a country that makes you wait 9 Yeats in the public system seems insane.