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To not help my elderly baby boomer parents

299 replies

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:05

Baby Boomer parents still married and are in their mid-seventies. My DM hasn’t worked since she was in her early 50’s due to chronic poor health (fibromyalgia etc). She was part-time / self-employed most of her 40’s. They moved overseas in their mid-50’s and DF was able to get well-paying work (physically hard job). He was on good money for 10-15 years and retired at 70. My DM was in charge of the finances until she was diagnosed with dementia in her early 70’s due to FND, history of depression , anxiety , arthritis etc.

During her late 50’s-early 60’s she spent a lot of money on things such as cruises and holidays, surgeries (expensive dental work , bariatric surgery x 2, tummy tuck, face lift ) and things like jewellery. DF buried his head in the sand re: finances.

I am late Gen X, moved out of house at 18, was able to get a degree and pay off my large student loan. I’ve been with my DH since I was 19 and he has been very fortunate to earn a lot of money in recent years. Since we had our child I have not returned to work (I guess it’s a very traditional family set up ). Child is in primary school.

I live a 12 hour drive away or a quick flight from my parents (I moved to their country in 2010). My brother is even further away - 2 flights and never visits them. We have suggested many times that they move close to either my brother or myself but they have refused. My child is their only grandchild and they’ve met him about 7 times since he was born. They are not active grandparents at all - even when visiting.

My mother constantly rings me pleading poverty and is anxious about what will happen to her if DF dies before her. They have a meager pension and savings, their home is mortgage free. They live comfortably day to day on their pension.

She just called today to announce that DF‘S knees are in terrible condition and he needs at least one knee replacement. Would cost considerable if done privately. Stupidly they had great health insurance but had recently swapped to another company and didn’t realise joint replacements weren’t covered. I’m fuming at their stupidity. I’m also fuming that she wasted so much money and lived beyond her means (something they would have judge US on if we had done the same thing). His knees have been bad for a good 15 years. I asked about going public but she says it would be 9 years on the waiting list. They do have private super / savings they could use to pay private but I guess DM is not wanting to dip into this in case she needs it all later. I feel so awkward as I think she feels I should help her financially but DH is not keen on the idea. She’s a very shallow, gossipy woman so she hasn’t done herself any favours over the years (we aren’t very close ). Besides , he has his DM to think about.

AIBU not helping her or feeling obligated to do so?

OP posts:
Terrribletwos · 09/07/2024 14:43

If they have 200k in savings., you just say to them use that, obviously, when/if they ask.

ButterCrackers · 09/07/2024 14:48

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 09/07/2024 14:43

“Hi Parents, sorry to hear about dads knee.
We are really poor too, we have even less savings and I don’t even have an income as a SAHM, and we have DC to raise and our future planning too. We are still paying off our student loans - it was so hard going when we were younger with no help at all.

Maybe you could join the public hospital waitlist first, no harm in that. Otherwise you could consider using your savings if you want it sooner. Lucky you have so many assets to sell like your house or jewellery if you need it.

Would be nice to see you sometime!”

This. They can look after themselves financially

TheBizzies · 09/07/2024 14:48

You don't like them it's quite clear so I don't even know why you're asking the question.

and away with your boomer and gen this and that.

CharlotteRumpling · 09/07/2024 14:48

I note the mum hasn't actually asked the OP for any money.

As people get older, they tend to worry about things, especially health care. My mum worries and she has been very frugal all her life, and not spent anything on frivolous stuff. I expect we will all worry too, and I hope my DC are a bit nicer to me than OP.

AnonymousBleep · 09/07/2024 14:48

Westfacing · 09/07/2024 14:24

You are being very unreasonable, for using silly terms like Baby Boomers and Gen X.

They're not 'silly terms', they're simply what's widely and conventionally used to describe those two age demographics.

HappierTimesAhead · 09/07/2024 14:49

YABU for using the phrase povo.
The rest, meh

Cotonsugar · 09/07/2024 14:50

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:29

Someone’s triggered, lol. They are classified as Baby Boomers. I am classified as Gen X. They are mid 70’s. I am mid forties. Calm down.

Why not just say all your ages? Easier and non-triggering 😂

iamaigenerated · 09/07/2024 14:50

ChampagneLassie · 09/07/2024 14:36

They’re not in UK though so this isn’t really relevant

(Assuming 9 yrs is real) could they not fly back to have it done? They are still British citizens

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:50

ageratum1 · 09/07/2024 14:38

My next door neighbour waited 8 years for a hip replacement (and that was before covid) so I am nit disbelieving of waiting times

I think the fact you fldont want to make your parents comfortable says a lot about the piece of work you are.Maybe you are a product of your upbringing though?

I am a grey rock. A giant, dull, grey rock.

She was NC with my brother for about a year which was ridiculous as he offered to have her move in with him and pay for care. DB is single, no children. Actually they may still be not talking. DB still talks with my father though.

Does their £200k saved make any difference ?

OP posts:
Jenrht · 09/07/2024 14:51

BeeCucumber · 09/07/2024 14:16

You are not close. Your mother has savings - she can afford the op but would rather spend your money. This is not your problem to solve.

This 100%

TonTonMacoute · 09/07/2024 14:52

If they can afford it, they pay. Why should you pay?

CharlotteRumpling · 09/07/2024 14:54

Clearly your father is the easier one to talk to, so talk with him, cite their savings and carry on with your giant grey rocking of your mum.

AnonymousBleep · 09/07/2024 14:54

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:50

I am a grey rock. A giant, dull, grey rock.

She was NC with my brother for about a year which was ridiculous as he offered to have her move in with him and pay for care. DB is single, no children. Actually they may still be not talking. DB still talks with my father though.

Does their £200k saved make any difference ?

You've used the term 'Baby Boomer' (which is widely used, including in business, and completely normal but apparently a red rag to a bull on Mumsnet) and said you don't want to financially help your ageing parents who've frittered their own cash away, so be prepared to be told how awful and ungrateful you are from the usual bunch of MNers who don't think older parents (I won't say Baby Boomers, even though it would make the age thing clearer) should ever have to pay towards their adult offspring but god forbid their adult offspring don't give them all their time, money and attention.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 09/07/2024 14:54

You don’t need to help financially. What about giving some support by going there and taking them through their finances and assuaging your Mum’s anxiety over it?

Your Mum seems to have had lifelong issues, and now disabilities, but did work until she couldn’t. Your Dad worked hard and made good money. You sound incredibly judgey and resentful about money they earned and spent. It’s hard maybe, to be active grandparents, when you have a cognitive impairment and other conditions. Ditto the idea of moving house. It probably feels overwhelming.

And you may not know that Boomer is now used as a derogatory term, not really necessary label generations as you gave ages.

But no, don’t be guilt tripped into spending the money your DH earns, but do try and find out the accurate details and maybe assist with the admin of getting his surgery done?

Kinshipug · 09/07/2024 14:55

They have money, so it's not your concern. They can come to you for help if/when they actually struggle. Can they downsize to free up more cash?

zebedeehadapoint · 09/07/2024 14:55

I'm not understanding this thread.

My wealthy parents are asking me, their wealthy daughter, to pay for private healthcare? Oh and I don't like them. What should we do????

Who cares, seriously. You all sound awful.

AnonymousBleep · 09/07/2024 14:56

CharlotteRumpling · 09/07/2024 14:48

I note the mum hasn't actually asked the OP for any money.

As people get older, they tend to worry about things, especially health care. My mum worries and she has been very frugal all her life, and not spent anything on frivolous stuff. I expect we will all worry too, and I hope my DC are a bit nicer to me than OP.

Maybe you'll visit your grandchildren more often and then your own children will like you more?

CharlotteRumpling · 09/07/2024 14:56

how awful and ungrateful you are from the usual bunch of MNers who don't think older parents (I won't say Baby Boomers, even though it would make the age thing clearer) should ever have to pay towards their adult offspring but god forbid their adult offspring don't give them all their time, money and attention.

Actually, most of MN these days- certainly the parents of adult children section - is filled with people complaining that their parents are refusing to give them house deposits or childcare, and children who are staying in parental homes till they are 40, because they didn't ask to be born!

Then you have the woman complaining that her MIL only visits when invited and has put up photos of her GC!

MaryMack · 09/07/2024 14:56

Your mum should have thought about vital joint replacement surgery when she was splashing the cash on cosmetic procedures when she was younger.
With 200K in savings, it's absolutely ridiculous that she is expecting you to help her out financially. Tough shit, tell her to use their savings so your dad can have new knees and a new lease of life.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 09/07/2024 14:57

iamaigenerated · 09/07/2024 14:50

(Assuming 9 yrs is real) could they not fly back to have it done? They are still British citizens

You have to live or work in the UK to access the NHS. It is based on being resident, not on nationality.

AnonymousBleep · 09/07/2024 14:58

CharlotteRumpling · 09/07/2024 14:56

how awful and ungrateful you are from the usual bunch of MNers who don't think older parents (I won't say Baby Boomers, even though it would make the age thing clearer) should ever have to pay towards their adult offspring but god forbid their adult offspring don't give them all their time, money and attention.

Actually, most of MN these days- certainly the parents of adult children section - is filled with people complaining that their parents are refusing to give them house deposits or childcare, and children who are staying in parental homes till they are 40, because they didn't ask to be born!

Then you have the woman complaining that her MIL only visits when invited and has put up photos of her GC!

Hmmm. Let's take this thread as a barometer then, shall we?

DebbieDownerBB · 09/07/2024 14:58

TheBizzies · 09/07/2024 14:48

You don't like them it's quite clear so I don't even know why you're asking the question.

and away with your boomer and gen this and that.

I actually have a very high opinion of my DF. He is very stoic but fair, hard working. I mean I am hopping mad about the health insurance, that doesn’t mean I don’t like them. Yes, my mother is pretty shallow and gossipy. Her family members would completely agree with me on that 🤣. She can also be a very generous and sensitive person. I mentioned the shallow /gossipy part as she is very much like that and DH doesn’t see her through the same lens as I (me being her child and he being an in-law).

OP posts:
VickyEadieofThigh · 09/07/2024 14:59

minipie · 09/07/2024 14:24

They have savings, they should use their savings.

If they had nowt it might be a more complicated dilemma, but since they can afford to pay themselves the answer seems pretty clear.

Exactly this.

YABU to use expressions like "Baby Boomers", which seem designed to provoke anger and annoyance.

thesurrealist · 09/07/2024 14:59

SO your mother continued to work until she was in her 50's despite having really bad health issues. She has a dx of FND which again, really serious and can cause changes in personality. It was possibly the FND or the dementia that caused the excess spending - but you obviously don't give a shit. And that's fine.
Most people would have some empathy for what their parent is going through healthwise and I can only presume that the whole boomer thing was to distract people from those facts. Your mother worked until she was 50. That's more than you have.

strawberryteacake · 09/07/2024 14:59

AnonymousBleep · 09/07/2024 14:48

They're not 'silly terms', they're simply what's widely and conventionally used to describe those two age demographics.

Baby Boomer is a dog whistle for hate.

There was absolutely no need to bring it up, other than to encourage others who resent and despise that generation to be on her side in loathing and contempt for her parents.

Baby Boomer parents still married and are in their mid-seventies.

In their mid-seventies covers it.

Also no need to bring in Gen X - I am late Gen X - except for more pity points. These generational divides are all bullshit.

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