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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To wonder if DP is all he seems?

481 replies

sunniedee · 05/07/2024 11:05

Hi mumsnetters

I’ve changed my username because I’ve posted here quite a lot and have a few school mum friends on here who might recognise me. I’m very conflicted about my current DP and in need of some impartial, honest, unfiltered MN advice because it’s quite difficult / confusing to discuss this with family and friends.

I’ve been with my DP for around 9 months now but I've known of him distantly for around a year longer because of the social circles we’re in. I came out of a relationship about 11 months ago so I hadn’t really got to know DP a lot during that but we started seeing each other soon after my separation with my ex. I know this seems quite quick but during the time we’ve been together he's been absolutely lovely, he’s treated me with so much kindness and respect and we have such an amazing connection that I’ve really never felt before - I genuinely feel like we could go the distance. He has two DC’s and I have one DC. At times I can absolutely envision us having a DC together, maybe even getting married. I feel so lucky to have met him, he is soft and gentle, which is so refreshing as my previous relationship of 10 years was toxic and unpleasant.

BUT…. There’s more context to the story which plants seeds of doubt in my mind, but I feel dreadful that I'm even saying that because he really is so lovely to me.

I’ll jump into it.. his two DC’s are by two BM’s. He's currently having problems with his youngest DC’s BM. She brought social services into the picture which from what he told me seems to be an extreme measure. Without disclosing too much information (that I know), SS assessed and said no further action needed but they’ve brought in another service to offer support, which includes parenting work for him to do. From my experience of him I’m really surprised, he seems to be such a good dad, he loves his DC's and he's really been affected by this. His contact with his youngest DC has been limited during this time which he’s really struggled with. He tried to get the situation back to normal as quick as possible so we can still have time together too, any parent is entitled to their own adult time. But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this. BM says that some of these days are so she can work but I don’t see why she can’t just work other days instead.

The thing is I'm aware that SS were also involved when he broke up with the BM of his eldest DC and he had to go to court for contact. From what I can gather the oldest's BM was a bit unhinged and DP ended up getting full custody. That DC now goes to her mums about 40/60. I’ve never met either BM but I’ve a couple of mutual(ish) friends with the youngest's BM who have told me she's nice, but I know break-ups can bring out the worst in people no matter how “nice" they are. He's never spoken badly about either of his ex BM’s, which I really love about him, but from what he does say it seems to be quite easy for me to read between the lines and paint the picture myself.

I’ve been feeling so awful for him to have this happen to him twice, he really doesn't deserve it. I also feel absolutely terrible for having the slightest niggle of doubt in my mind but a couple of things some friends have said keep playing over for me and I don’t know whether to listen to them or ignore them.

AIBU to think I should try to put it to the back of my mind and focus on the positive, I know people can be different in different relationships so maybe they just weren’t right for each other?

YABU - to have doubts and wonder if there's more with DP than meets the eye.

YANBU - to think DP is lovely with me so I should keep my focus on our own relationship and not pay too much mind to the rest.

EDITED: I’ve realised my post title might contradict my YABU / YANBU options, hopefully it’s not confusing but answers based on the options above would be great.

TIA!

OP posts:
sunniedee · 05/07/2024 11:28

For those who like a TLDR 😝

DP is lovely with me, but he's had issues with both of his BM’s, I’m not sure whether to pay more attention to that or just ignore and carry on exploring my own relationship with him.

OP posts:
Idontjetwashthefucker · 05/07/2024 11:33

Yep, it's always the exes that are unhinged

AmiShitsaline · 05/07/2024 11:33

The SS thing would be a red flag for me

SleepingStandingUp · 05/07/2024 11:36

What are the things the friends have said? The things he had to work on, are they linked to violence, neglect, verbal abuse, etc?

ARichtGoodDram · 05/07/2024 11:36

But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this.

Choosing you, his girlfriend of 9 months, over his child tells you a lot.

Choosing you over the child that has ended up with SS involvement is, frankly, ridiculous.

If he was a decent father then in the midst of social services involvement he’d be taking every opportunity to spend time with his child, prioritising his child, on his days off.

And two crazy exes and two lots of social services involvement?

Hugesunflower · 05/07/2024 11:37

YABU.

Unhinged ex and SS involvement - massive red flags.

Have you asked the police for Sarah/Claire’s law disclosure?

Hugesunflower · 05/07/2024 11:38

ARichtGoodDram · 05/07/2024 11:36

But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this.

Choosing you, his girlfriend of 9 months, over his child tells you a lot.

Choosing you over the child that has ended up with SS involvement is, frankly, ridiculous.

If he was a decent father then in the midst of social services involvement he’d be taking every opportunity to spend time with his child, prioritising his child, on his days off.

And two crazy exes and two lots of social services involvement?

I missed this bit. I would walk over hot coals, never mind a simple cancelation of a social plan to see my child.

Workawayxx · 05/07/2024 11:38

Why were SS involved the first time? Was it due to issues with DC1's Mum's MH? And why does he say SS are involved this time (which seems an extreme measure to you)?

It does seem extremely "bad luck" to have SS involvement twice and I'd definitely be very wary till I had more information and probably just wouldn't have a child with him.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/07/2024 11:39

Take off the rosy glasses and have a good long look at what you've written here. If you were reading this from a stranger what would you think? What would you advise?
I mean, one SS involvement could be unfortunate. But two, with each of the exes?
I wonder what the friends have said. I wonder why you are thinking of ignoring it.

Rockschooldropout · 05/07/2024 11:40

Social service involvement
“unhinged exes” 🙄
chooses you over his DC

its a no from me

GiveOverAndOver · 05/07/2024 11:40

The biggest red flag for me is how he has chosen time and weekends away with you over his kids. 100% would be a no from me. That tells you what type of Dad, and person he is.

Peclet · 05/07/2024 11:42

Not a good guy.

Newbutoldfather · 05/07/2024 11:42

Yup, the idea of choosing a date over seeing your own children, especially if you don’t normally see your children much, doesn’t fit into my idea of what fatherhood is.

Would you do that with your own child?

Myblindsaredown · 05/07/2024 11:43

Both your votes make him innocent. Personally I’d be very concerned especially as social services have said he needs support.

ActualChips · 05/07/2024 11:43

2 months single after a decade long abusive marriage means you were nowhere near ready to date. You'd need therapy and extensive time to work on your self esteem and standards and help your kid deal with the trauma. Any decent man would have seen this and not jumped in to dating you.
Kids with various 'crazy exes' and social services= absolute car crash. Why involve yourself in this mess? Is any of this in your kids best interest?
Avoid men entirely until you've processed the abusive marriage and done the Freedom Course.

NetflixAndKill · 05/07/2024 11:44

Your intuition is. It something to be pushed aside. Listen to it

pinkyredrose · 05/07/2024 11:44

What does BM mean?

JustPleachy · 05/07/2024 11:44

GiveOverAndOver · 05/07/2024 11:40

The biggest red flag for me is how he has chosen time and weekends away with you over his kids. 100% would be a no from me. That tells you what type of Dad, and person he is.

Yes, this was very much what I picked up on too.

And as a minimum, do a Claire’s law request.

ActualChips · 05/07/2024 11:45

pinkyredrose · 05/07/2024 11:44

What does BM mean?

Bowel Movement, and Baby Mama/ Birth Mother

LegoTherapy · 05/07/2024 11:45

Run.
Don't say BM. Assuming you mean birth mother it's highly offensive. Those women are the dc's' mum.

duende · 05/07/2024 11:45

Newbutoldfather · 05/07/2024 11:42

Yup, the idea of choosing a date over seeing your own children, especially if you don’t normally see your children much, doesn’t fit into my idea of what fatherhood is.

Would you do that with your own child?

this!

Willyoujustbequiet · 05/07/2024 11:47

ARichtGoodDram · 05/07/2024 11:36

But his ex has been offering him alternative days to have his DC (she says to fit around the reason SS were involved) and some of them work well but sometimes they would fall on occasions that we had planned to go away or spend time together so he’s ended up missing out on seeing his DC because of this.

Choosing you, his girlfriend of 9 months, over his child tells you a lot.

Choosing you over the child that has ended up with SS involvement is, frankly, ridiculous.

If he was a decent father then in the midst of social services involvement he’d be taking every opportunity to spend time with his child, prioritising his child, on his days off.

And two crazy exes and two lots of social services involvement?

This

A decent father does not prioritise his new girlfriend over contact with his child that has had SS input. Come on now.

You know who he is deep down. That's why you've posted. Listen to your gut and throw this one back.

Bestyearever2024 · 05/07/2024 11:48

Social Services have been involved with BOTH his children and him?

Hes chosen NOT to see his DC and prioritise going away with you?

Both his exes are unhinged?

I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole and I wouldn't want him around my child

plainjayne8282 · 05/07/2024 11:48

So manny red flags here and to be blunt, you sound deluded.

He's choosing you and missing out on seeing his kids. Not good.

"Why can't his ex just work other days?" Do you have a job, OP? Because that's not how it works. Her employer doesn't manage their rota in consideration of days you want to see her kids dads.

Filling in the blanks yourself - don't do that. You don't have anywhere near enough information to do that.

From what you've written, it's got disaster written all over it.

BeyondMyWits · 05/07/2024 11:48

You have a child.

He has been involved with SS over BOTH of his children.

He actively chooses to not spend time with his children when inconvenient.

He is not a good catch. Set your bar higher. Walk away. Before you need to involve SS. (And thinking about having kids with him already? With all that knowledge of SS involvement. Don't)