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Young Adults using weed - big deal or no?

219 replies

RunNo · 19/06/2024 16:32

Looking for others thoughts.
I have 3 children 22, 20 and 18 and my husband has a daughter who is 23. I’ve been divorced from my children’s dad for 8 years and we rarely communicate.

At the weekend my partners sister had come
to visit from France, her 3 children also visited they are 24, 22 and 19.

On Saturday night we all went out for dinner all the “kids” went for drinks after then back to my partners daughters flat. Along with 2 of her friends and her 29 year old boyfriend, this upped the average age quite a bit.

Turns out they all ended up sitting around smoking weed, listening to music etc. On Sunday my 18 year old told me, he’s quite a young 18, only just finished his A-levels etc. He told me it made him uncomfortable and everyone was doing it apart from him and my 20 year old.

I mentioned to my partner and he gave me a look as though to say “and what?”. I’ve noticed this with a lot of things really with him. I suggested he maybe mention to his daughter that some of the younger ones with them weren’t comfortable and maybe in the future if they are there, she shouldn’t engage in the use of illegal drugs! He more or less said “be glad it was only weed” then said he wouldn’t say anything as they were all adults and my kids could have left if they weren’t comfortable. For context she lives in Zone 1 central London, my kids have grown up in rural Berkshire. Yes the night tube was on so they could have easily got to my partners (we don’t live together yet) but I don’t think they knew how or had the confidence to leave. The demographic of my kids vs everyone else is quite different. He is incredibly well off , his daughter was gifted several properties worth over a million pounds at 18 and could easily live off the rental income of them, she doesn’t she has a job but she absolutely could. I think the use of drugs (especially weed and cocaine) is a lot more common in her well off trust fund babies of central London than in my kids state school rural Berkshire circles!

Either way my kids have now told their dad and he has said to me that the kids have told him they don't want to spend time with partners daughter or niece/nephews again. They are also saying they won’t be coming on holiday to France with us in July. I’ve spoke to my kids and they have said they just want someone to tell his daughter they were uncomfortable.

Now I feel stuck. I don’t think it’s a massive deal, but I understand my kids were uncomfortable. It wouldn’t be appropriate for me to talk to my partners daughter as we aren’t close. My partner refuses to as he thinks my kids are being childish and it’s “just weed”. My kids don’t want to talk to her themselves or hang out with her again.

So AIBU to think

  1. Using weed isn’t a big deal and both my ex and my kids are being dramatic
  2. Even if it isn’t a big deal my kids feeling uncomfortable needs to be dealt with so we can work as a family
  3. To help with this my partner should just have a quiet word with his daughter before the family holiday, even just to say “if you plan to smoke in France just let X and Y know so they don’t have to be part of it”

Or is it actually a big deal and we are being too relaxed about it, it is illegal after all!

Or not a deal at all and my kids just need to grow up and stop being immature

I feel like I’m somewhere in the middle and between my kids and my partner right now

OP posts:
BitOutOfPractice · 19/06/2024 17:54

Just because it's "pretty commonplace" doesn't make it OK in my opinion.

Mumofoneandone · 19/06/2024 17:55

Yes it is! If your children are uncomfortable around it, it needs dealing with within the family setup. Just like anything that makes them feel uncomfortable. They will need to learn strategies etc to deal with it in everyday life but need to feel safe with close friends and family.

HarrytheHobbit · 19/06/2024 17:56

I love drug related threads, they always bring the frothing loons out.

SirenDiMare · 19/06/2024 17:57

SlugGloves · 19/06/2024 17:51

The “kid” is a 23 year old adult woman with a career in finance and an apartment in Zone 1. Even if she had her first bong age 3 she’s done okay for herself thus far.

The stepsister and cannabis are two great big red herrings here. The real issues is the OP’s kids social incompetence and their fathers weaponisation of normal teenage experiences (not the smoking weed, but being in the presence of people who are, and how to navigate that).

So what? Her current age, job and location make no difference as far as the harmful effects of smoking weed goes. Weed smokers always have something wrong with them, and they often end up zombie-like.

Gogogo12345 · 19/06/2024 17:58

5128gap · 19/06/2024 17:42

I think 3. Being around someone smoking weed isn't a neutral thing that people should have to live and let live about. It stinks for one thing and if you have to be in a room with it can make you feel dizzy and ill. If you'd have posted they didn't want to go on holiday with someone who smoked cigarettes around them, then people would probably have been a lot more understanding. Unfortunately there's this conceit that we all have to be ok about weed and anyone who isn't is uptight and judgy. When actually it's pretty anti social if you don't like it, and your DC have a right to their views.

But they could've just left. No one forced them to stay

BobbyBiscuits · 19/06/2024 17:58

I'd say it's very common among young people, but noone should be encouraging others to smoke. Not just weed but anything really.
I personally smoke weed and have done since my teens, but most tend to grow out of it, or just have it occasionally to relax or with mates.
I'd never encourage anyone to start doing it if they didn't already though.

RunNo · 19/06/2024 17:58

SirenDiMare · 19/06/2024 17:57

So what? Her current age, job and location make no difference as far as the harmful effects of smoking weed goes. Weed smokers always have something wrong with them, and they often end up zombie-like.

Why is everyone acting like partners daughter is doing this every other day. It’s occasionally, a few times a year in a social setting in her own home.

OP posts:
Beliabsc · 19/06/2024 17:58

Jgermansay · 19/06/2024 17:34

The one pointing the finger isn’t always as pure as the driven snow.
Sometimes a “kid” might be trying to cover up a misdeed of their own by getting their own story in first.
Much like in murder investigations when the murderer themselves alerts a crime to the police or pretends to be helping in some way.

Is there any history or tension between the two?

Only you know the previous characters of those involved.
The best predictor of future actions are past actions. Compare the two, that might bring you closer to your answer.

I personally never make decisions, especially important ones, having heard only one side of a story.

Similar happened in my family, the one who snitched had in fact been privately asked to leave and not come back again, and snitched as a form of tit for tat, it was all very ugly and they are still never in the same room at once many years later. I would expect more of someone who is no longer a child. All very schoolyard antics.

And not having money for an Uber? I’m sure the father would have transferred a bit of money or booked the Uber himself if asked, unless all concerned are especially reluctant about spending, and you said it yourself you would have booked an Uber, so why were you not informed by a simple discreet text asking at the time? What happened between then and when you were told?

A few things do not add up. Especially if the situation was so serious as to want to leave.

SirenDiMare · 19/06/2024 18:01

RunNo · 19/06/2024 17:58

Why is everyone acting like partners daughter is doing this every other day. It’s occasionally, a few times a year in a social setting in her own home.

Why are you justifying it to me? If you are so happy and unconcerned about the weed smoking, what do you care what everyone else thinks? You asked for our opinions so I shared mine. I think parents who are 'relaxed' about kids smoking weed - whether it's once a year or 100 - are neglectful. That's my opinion.

Lassi · 19/06/2024 18:04

If you are in rural Berkshire the weed will be supplied by County Lines kids. Unless you would be happy with your own DC being taken out of school, groomed and made to work for a drug dealer, then don’t be a hypocrite and expect someone else’s kids to do it. I’m not a frothing loon. Just someone who is realistic about what happens in the drugs trade. No doubt the ‘no big deal’ types on here are reading this thread while drinking fair trade coffee in a £££ house and claiming to be liberal.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 19/06/2024 18:08
  1. Using weed isn’t a big deal and both my ex and my kids are being dramatic
  2. Even if it isn’t a big deal my kids feeling uncomfortable needs to be dealt with so we can work as a family
  3. To help with this my partner should just have a quiet word with his daughter before the family holiday, even just to say “if you plan to smoke in France just let X and Y know so they don’t have to be part of it”

yes I agree with all of the above. It’s not a big deal, but if some people aren’t comfortable with it they should be given an easy option to leave the situation before the rest start smoking.

AbraAbraCadabra · 19/06/2024 18:09

RunNo · 19/06/2024 17:25

I don’t want to be!! But they have gone running to my ex which forces me to be involved or lose them effectively.
This happens a lot - they run to their dad and then I have to bend over backwards pleasing them or all I get is “well im just going to move in with dad and never visit then”

Ummmm so it sounds like your kids have got very used to throwing their weight around and getting everyone else to do what they want. So they want “someone” to tell them that the weed smoking makes them uncomfortable. I have so many issues with this it’s hard to know where to start.

  1. To what end? Why do they think that them being uncomfortable should mean that other people need to change their behaviour when it’s not directly affecting them?
  2. No-one was pushing smoking weed into them so really not sure why them were so “uncomfortable” in the first place.
  3. Why don’t they feel comfortable addressing this themselves if they want to? They are adults. Why are they still running mummy and daddy and getting them to resolve their problems?
  4. Why aren’t they confident enough to walk away? That’s concerning and slightly odd tbh. It makes it all sound very attention seeking. They should feel confident walk away from any situation where they feel uncomfortable by the age of 18! It’s worrying if they genuinely don’t as they could get themselves into all sorts of dangerous situations.

I can understand why you are worried about losing them but I think your children seem to have got very used to using this against you to get you all running about after them and changing your and others behaviours from what you have said.

Personally, I would say to them, you are 18/20. If you are in a situation where you are not comfortable you need to leave. This is not my responsibility to sort out. My partner’s children are adults and we can’t tell them what to do. And neither can you.

AbraAbraCadabra · 19/06/2024 18:11

“To help with this my partner should just have a quiet word with his daughter before the family holiday, even just to say “if you plan to smoke in France just let X and Y know so they don’t have to be part of it”

Yes agree this is a good compromise.

Gogogo12345 · 19/06/2024 18:11

Sloejelly · 19/06/2024 17:48

Decent people of all kinds take drugs

’Decent people’ don’t prop up murderers, sex traffickers, gangs…. A lot of people might turn a blind eye to what they are financing but they are not decent people for doing so.

What about if you grow your own? Not " propping" up all those people then

5128gap · 19/06/2024 18:15

Gogogo12345 · 19/06/2024 17:58

But they could've just left. No one forced them to stay

The thread isn't about what they could have done that evening. Thats history and irrelevant to the dilemma of the thread. They have decided what they intend to do in the future, which is not go on holiday if the other woman will be smoking weed around them, which they have every right to do.

Lassi · 19/06/2024 18:15

How many people actually grow their own @Gogogo12345 In my city, teachers and football coaches are trained to spot kids being used in county lines, but crack on you edgy Berkshire folk.

BrokenWing · 19/06/2024 18:22

Illegal drugs are a big deal for society and health wise.

Only used, condoned and impacts minimised by losers.

Teentaxidriver · 19/06/2024 18:25

boombang · 19/06/2024 16:51

Of course it is a big deal. They will all lower their IQs permanently taking that stuff at that age, they are putting themselves (and your children at risk of a police record, which could totally stuff up their careers and future travel plans) they are throwing money at organised crime, and supporting human trafficking and child slavery

This is absolutely right. Lots of evidence also linking weed to mental health problems. Tbh I think an 18 year socialising in a group with a 29 year throws up this kind of issues. Your partners daughter’s behaviour is very stereotypical of her privilege (not working, privately wealthy, drug taking) and not something you can control or change.

Gogogo12345 · 19/06/2024 18:31

Lassi · 19/06/2024 18:15

How many people actually grow their own @Gogogo12345 In my city, teachers and football coaches are trained to spot kids being used in county lines, but crack on you edgy Berkshire folk.

Dunno in total but my friend does in London. Sure others do also

TheMixedGirl · 19/06/2024 18:31

AbraAbraCadabra · 19/06/2024 18:09

Ummmm so it sounds like your kids have got very used to throwing their weight around and getting everyone else to do what they want. So they want “someone” to tell them that the weed smoking makes them uncomfortable. I have so many issues with this it’s hard to know where to start.

  1. To what end? Why do they think that them being uncomfortable should mean that other people need to change their behaviour when it’s not directly affecting them?
  2. No-one was pushing smoking weed into them so really not sure why them were so “uncomfortable” in the first place.
  3. Why don’t they feel comfortable addressing this themselves if they want to? They are adults. Why are they still running mummy and daddy and getting them to resolve their problems?
  4. Why aren’t they confident enough to walk away? That’s concerning and slightly odd tbh. It makes it all sound very attention seeking. They should feel confident walk away from any situation where they feel uncomfortable by the age of 18! It’s worrying if they genuinely don’t as they could get themselves into all sorts of dangerous situations.

I can understand why you are worried about losing them but I think your children seem to have got very used to using this against you to get you all running about after them and changing your and others behaviours from what you have said.

Personally, I would say to them, you are 18/20. If you are in a situation where you are not comfortable you need to leave. This is not my responsibility to sort out. My partner’s children are adults and we can’t tell them what to do. And neither can you.

I was going to write the same. Your kids need to understand that you can't police the world for them.
They really should have the skills to manage uncomfortable situations.

MartyFunkhouser · 19/06/2024 18:33

Meh. They’re all adults. Doesn’t sound like your children were put under any pressure. They must come across people smoking weed at parties etc?

I would not be remotely bothered about a bit of recreational weed use. Lord knows I did a fair bit back in the day. I have however warned my sons about skunk and the impact on a young brain, no idea if they have heeded my warning.

Sounds like your kids have the courage of their own convictions (possibly a tad ott, but there we are). This is not your issue.

Maddy70 · 19/06/2024 18:35

Weed isnt anything to overly worry about about. Its better than drinking. It isn't illegal in the country i live in

I would be a bit eye rolly if someone judged my adult children for smoking weed while not judging drinking etc

Your children feel uncomfortable thats fine. However it could just be that they are so much younger than the others and not in the same vibe. They are perfectly entitled to not want to spend time with them. They are all adults and can make adult decisions

BeefBrisket · 19/06/2024 18:36

MojoMoon · 19/06/2024 16:51

Your adult children are being idiots.
Are they not keen on your partner? Perhaps not keen on you moving in?

Demanding someone tell him daughter that they felt "uncomfortable" otherwise they refuse to go on holiday is incredibly precious for some adults, rurally raised or not.

They could have left. They could have used their words and said something - but it would have been less idiotic to just leave.

I suspect they

  1. Want to undermine your relationship by pushing a wedge between you and your partner
  2. Are overly keen for their parents to see them as very well behaved angels which suggests they might be hiding something else.

Loads of rural kids take drugs. There is nothing else to do. The idea that the Bad City Girl is leading Innocent Rural Youth astray is probably nonsense

Totally agree. Of course it was just OP's two not smoking. And of course they had to tell mum about how they were good and didn't try any.

Come on, you're 18 and 20. Don't smoke if you don't want to.

Weed is common. Not to be encouraged but seriously, mum doesn't need to be informed.

Not a big deal

BagOfBollocks · 19/06/2024 18:38

Blimpton · 19/06/2024 17:24

You’ve said she uses illegal drugs. Therefore she is a druggie and so are the cousins. You don’t want your kids around people like that.

Also your partner said you should be grateful it was only weed, which implies she sometimes uses harder drugs.

I know this forum is anonymous but still, how are you not embarrassed?

Onomatofear · 19/06/2024 18:40

In my experience of weed smokers, it tends not to be a good thing. It can cause mental health problems, paranoia and seems to sap people's ambitions in life.

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