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DD6’s party, Jemima’s mother and the clownfairy part 2

309 replies

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 03:44

Hi all

After my last post here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

I thought some of you might be interested in an update.

The clown/fairy I had booked ghosted me when I tried to confirm!!!! so for a moment there I was panicking about having no entertainer and felt that the mumsnet curse of hoping that DD had a shitty party would come true!!!!! luckily though, I have found and booked a back up fairy. So that mitigates the clown phobia risk

9 guests have RSVPed if a total of 12 invites (I had guessed 15), 3 TBC. Of the 12, I know 6 mothers (most of them just to say hi to at school). 3 who have RSVPed I couldn’t pick out of a line up. So far no other parents have asked to stay. Or indeed asked for any other details (or an “plan”)about the party.

Forecast is for pissing rain on Sunday.

The last few pages of the thread took a weird turn while I was asleep and started talking about swimming parties and lifeguards. We do actually have a pool … (I know I sound like I’m trolling at this point.) There will not be a lifeguard on duty, but as it’s about 12 degrees here so I don’t think anyone will be getting in the unheated pool.

(Am WFH today because DS has a high fever and power-chucked in the hallway last night while I was making cupcakes at 10pm for the sodding school fundraiser. As DS coughed in my face while he spreadeagled across my bed, I did think wistfully of one poster on the last thread who thought I was probably a cashed up career woman who barely saw her kids.)

To tell a mum of a guest that she can’t stay at DD6’s birthday party | Mumsnet

I’m fully prepared to be told I’m BU but I’m not changing my mind just upfront 😂 (I know that can be annoying when responding to AIBU posts). DD6’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

OP posts:
waterrat · 18/06/2024 15:50

god almight it's not people pleasing to go moderately in the direction of comprimise so that one child can have a parent there if they really need it. truly we are on the path to a solipsistic society.

The point of these parties is to bring kids together and they all have a nice time! The op is not going to enjoy it anyway !

All I will say is that personally I would go MARGINALLY out of my way to see if a child needed that support.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 15:59

dieselKiller · 18/06/2024 15:45

I would like more people to declare their professions please.

I think I’ve heard there’s a lawyer on this thread, we’ve definitely got a psychologist, and, by all available evidence, there’s someone with deep health & safety experience (although they seem shy to admit it).

Who else has relevant expertise for discussing whether 1 adult can look after 12-15 kids for a couple of hours? Do we have a bookmaker in the house?

I did a module in Safety and Risk management as part of my masters over 25 years ago. I also did a module in Cognitive Psychology. Completely irrelevant for clinical psychology but I won't let that stop me.

I'm also ok at stats so long as they are not too complicated. I could, if I get adequate data, work out the odds of a child getting tetanus from the pins AND them throwing up AND wetting themselves at the same time.

I'm currently a lecturer so very adept at sounding knowledgeable regardless of how much knowledge of the topic I actually have. That should be useful.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 18/06/2024 16:04

dieselKiller · 18/06/2024 15:45

I would like more people to declare their professions please.

I think I’ve heard there’s a lawyer on this thread, we’ve definitely got a psychologist, and, by all available evidence, there’s someone with deep health & safety experience (although they seem shy to admit it).

Who else has relevant expertise for discussing whether 1 adult can look after 12-15 kids for a couple of hours? Do we have a bookmaker in the house?

Surely what we really need is a Party Fairy to weigh in to tell us whether or not they are happy to be back-up in an emergency?

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 16:11

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 15:59

I did a module in Safety and Risk management as part of my masters over 25 years ago. I also did a module in Cognitive Psychology. Completely irrelevant for clinical psychology but I won't let that stop me.

I'm also ok at stats so long as they are not too complicated. I could, if I get adequate data, work out the odds of a child getting tetanus from the pins AND them throwing up AND wetting themselves at the same time.

I'm currently a lecturer so very adept at sounding knowledgeable regardless of how much knowledge of the topic I actually have. That should be useful.

I LOVE this

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 16:11

I am a dangerous goods safety advisor. Does that help in any way?

TadpolesInPool · 18/06/2024 16:13

Haven't RTFT only the OP posts.

Chipping in to say in France it's drop and run parties from age 3.

Only once did a mum hover a long way away in the park to keep an eye on her 6 year old cos they'd just moved back from the US and he was a bit nervous. However he was surrounded by his friends and after 10 minutes she left and he was fine (and didn't want to leave at the end).

Parties are really relaxed here.

We recently had 14 10 year olds round. Swimming pool, trampoline and nerf battles. With only DH and me supervising. It was fine and the boys had a blast. My only condition was they had to wear sunglasses or goggles to play nerf.

We just pottered around keeping them hydrated and handing out food. And keeping an eye on the pool and trampoline.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 16:15

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 16:11

I am a dangerous goods safety advisor. Does that help in any way?

Very interesting.

Op has ruled out a piñata, which I'm sure you are in full agreement with. I suggested blu tac instead of pins for pin the horn on the unicorn. Can you advise on the relative risks of pins vs blu tac?

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 16:29

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 16:15

Very interesting.

Op has ruled out a piñata, which I'm sure you are in full agreement with. I suggested blu tac instead of pins for pin the horn on the unicorn. Can you advise on the relative risks of pins vs blu tac?

It’s tough one. Without my clipboard and ability to carry out a full risk assessment I would say here that both carry relatively minimal risks. Therefore, I would recommend pins because blu tac is shite.

Listress · 18/06/2024 16:43

I have been Elsa, but it was 4 years ago on a float in a parade!

Riversideandrelax · 18/06/2024 16:48

I can't believe the fuss you've made about one parent staying! It's quite embarrassing.

No wonder the 'fairy' ghosted you with your attitude, tbh. I think they did well to not get involved in this drama!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 16:49

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 16:29

It’s tough one. Without my clipboard and ability to carry out a full risk assessment I would say here that both carry relatively minimal risks. Therefore, I would recommend pins because blu tac is shite.

But what about the tetanus risk? If the op is anything like most people on MN, nobody will be allowed cross the threshold without taking their shoes off so there will be multiple children running around in stockinged feet on a bed of pins.

DBD1975 · 18/06/2024 16:55

Have you watched Motherland? Seriously it is hysterical and you could relate!

Lavenderflower · 18/06/2024 17:21

This thread has been interesting. We even had people disclose their professions; lawyer, psychiatrist and psychologist. I am millennial. We got dropped off at parties. I think this is still the norm today - that being said, I think my generation are much more aware of predators than our parents generations. I think it would be unusual for for a parent of 6 year old to join the party - British houses are small. I do think the OP is brave to host 15 kids. This wouldn't be me especially as we live in the age of health and safety.

WolfFoxHare · 18/06/2024 17:52

A ghost clown doesn't sound much fun, you've dodged a bullet there. 😉

Justsewsew · 18/06/2024 17:53

@Endoftheroad12345 think yourself lucky with the needle incident. My cousin stood on one, was disregarded and it emerged from her knee some months later 😯

OVienna · 18/06/2024 17:54

I have to admit once I heard the OP had a pool...I've changed my mind about there being enough adults there. Sorry, OP! Is the pool covered?

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 17:55

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 09:39

You did say that, yes. Although that was only after people were disagreeing with you.

Also, anyone with an ounce of common sense wouldn't even contemplate, in the first place, supervising a party alone for all those kids without enlisting an extra pair of hands.
So, instead of taking the piss out of those of us who think you're irresponsible ( most did on the last thread, so it'll be interesting to see how many do here too if they've also read your previous posts), take note of posters who've also commented on your unpleasant attitude and weird responses for a start.

What's more, you're not really in a position to imply others are the 'clown'

Have to agree to disagree on your take here.

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 17:58

OVienna · 18/06/2024 17:54

I have to admit once I heard the OP had a pool...I've changed my mind about there being enough adults there. Sorry, OP! Is the pool covered?

As the OP will be asleep, and to prevent froth, it is a strict law in NZ that pools are fenced to a certain height and locked. Fucking annoying when you’re 7 and your mate goes on holiday and you and your other mates want to sneak in for a swim

OVienna · 18/06/2024 18:03

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 17:58

As the OP will be asleep, and to prevent froth, it is a strict law in NZ that pools are fenced to a certain height and locked. Fucking annoying when you’re 7 and your mate goes on holiday and you and your other mates want to sneak in for a swim

Oh ok

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 18:03

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:38

I think this has gotten completely out of hand.

The OP obviously has a bad attitude and is maybe not the nicest of people.

Just let her be. She seems very stressed.

Edited

Some of us really don't agree with you, but even those that might haven't felt the need to be nasty about a complete stranger.

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 18:06

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 12:04

I am very much not stressed. Leaving an abusive fuckknuckle of a husband is stressful. Fighting to keep your kids in your family home is stressful.

Organising a fairy party for 6 year olds and getting your adult child ratios criticised by health and safety inspectors on the internet is not stressful.

The piñata idea sounds potentially highly stressful though so thank you @OchonAgusOchonOh I will be axing that idea and going with pin the tail on the unicorn instead. Potential for kids getting jabbed with pins though? What would the risk register say?

Shouldn't you pin the horn?

Just to mix it up a bit

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 18/06/2024 18:07

OVienna · 18/06/2024 18:03

Oh ok

She’s also said that it’s currently 10 degrees and will be pissing it down with rain on the day of the party. So I’d say probably no more risk (and probably less given it will be fenced) of a child escaping from the party and falling in than there would be if she had a garden pond. (Now I’m waiting for someone to tell me that you mustn’t host children in your home if you have a pond in the garden).

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 18:08

LiberteEgaliteBeyonce · 18/06/2024 12:20

I think you need a lifeguard op. Safety first and that.

He won't come

She's cancelled the cheque

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 18:15

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 12:25

But that's just it, we don't know if the parents are aware of the arrangement. If they are, that's up to them.
But when asked if she'd told the parents/ put on invites that it'd only be her looking after everyone, then she refused to answer.

I'd bet that if the parents know it's just her, and not even one other person helping out, they'd be a bit concerned and offer to help her themselves.

Most likely the parents assume that she'll not be alone, and are happy to leave the kids.

How many times must @Endoftheroad12345 repeat that she is in NZ where this is perfectly usual practice?

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2024 18:26

Baklavamama · 18/06/2024 15:02

OP as a kiwi living in London I’ve been chuckling as people’s responses to your thread. It really highlights the cultural differences…(and house size difference. And that having a pool is pretty normal). Don’t mention that we all go barefoot in summer and that the kids often take their shoes off at school to play - if you’re in Auckland or further north that is. Not quite sure where the shoes off to play outside dividing line is any more!

A teacher friend of mine emigrated to NZ. She made a point of telling us all about that!