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.... to not be that fussed about FIL being "absolutely devastated" because I didn't tell DP about fathers day?

222 replies

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 10:42

Neither me nor DP registered that yesterday was fathers day.

Ergo, DP's dad didn't get the usual perfunctory phone call.

At midnight, DP received a text from his mum saying "Thanks for taking the time to call dad on fathers day".

This morning DP replied saying he hadn't realized but will call later this week.

An exchange ensued where the upshot is that DP's dad is "absolutely devastated" and DP should've known it was fathers day because I should've told him so

I'm disproportionately pissed off.

For context:
> I don't have a dad, ergo fathers day has never remotely been on my radar.
> I don't do wife work and PILs are fully aware of this.
> DP doesn't do cards, gifts or similar so wouldn't have actually sent anything to FIL - he'd have just called him.
> DP has been working 7-day weeks and in/out of the country for the last month or so which is why fathers day didn't register.
> DP and FIL aren't particularly close. We see them once or twice a year, DP speaks to them once a month or so.

AIBU to not give a shit because its not my circus, not my monkeys?

OP posts:
HcbSS · 17/06/2024 13:46

I can totally understand why your FIL is hurt, but it is definitely not your fault.

I agree with you RE 'wife work' ughhhh. My husband is in charge of his family, and me mine. We write birthdays on our calendar in January to stop us forgetting, his family in one colour and mine in another and shared dates like Mother's/Father's Day we draw a star or circle to stop us forgetting.

TruthorDie · 17/06/2024 13:46

paasll · 17/06/2024 11:09

Christ what a fucking baby FIL sounds and a bitch MIL sounds.

FIL: could have picked up the phone himslef to your DP and had a nice chat. But he didn’t want a chat, he wanted to have his feet kissed. Being devastated? Get a fucking grip. Prick.

MIL: could have texted saying hey do you know it’s Father’s Day, give your dad a call. Instead the manipulative bitch sent an aggressive text at midnight.

What a pair of childish, spoilt, manipulative weirdos they sound

Errr this

I am chuckling at the idea they deliberately stayed up until midnight, just in case he rang at 11:59. @SecretDeidre do you know what time they usually go to bed at?

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:46

poolemoney · 17/06/2024 13:44

I may be projecting here, but is this a case of the in-laws using you as a convenient scapegoat for their bad relationship with DH? Much easier to blame any relationship issues on you, than admit that they might just actually not get on that much.

That's what I thought too.

Entirely possible, yes. Though I do suspect I might get blamed for their poor relationship as well.

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behindthemall · 17/06/2024 13:47

ZekeZeke · 17/06/2024 10:58

Unless your head was firmly in the sand you wouldn't know about father's day.
It's everywhere!
Your partner should call his father. It's nothing to do with you.
When/if you have children of your own you may feel differently about these occasions.

It's everywhere in the same way Trooping of the Colour and the Euros have been everywhere.

I knew both things were coming up but couldn't have told you exactly when until after the event.

Lamelie · 17/06/2024 13:47

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:35

No idea.

BIL usually sends a generic gift in the post.
SIL usually organizes a grand gesture for them but does it on the cheap so its quite shit and/or only organizes half of it so it actually saddles PIL with more work. That's a whole other thread.

Oh. I was about to agree about wifework etc. But although you’re not involved you just don’t like any of them.
Shame, I find assuming good intent and aiming for good relationships enhances my life.
Misanthropists are rarely happy.

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:47

TruthorDie · 17/06/2024 13:46

Errr this

I am chuckling at the idea they deliberately stayed up until midnight, just in case he rang at 11:59. @SecretDeidre do you know what time they usually go to bed at?

I have no idea but I suspect its probably quite early!

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Skybluepinky · 17/06/2024 13:48

If he was that worried he would have phoned yr hubby for a chat, just ignore.

MrsJackRackam · 17/06/2024 13:50

Rennie Mackintosh hotel??? jeeez, I wouldn't stay there if I actually was homeless. <misses point of thread>

justasking111 · 17/06/2024 13:57

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:25

Oh God, the list is endless.

> Romantic anniversary night away "in London" that turned out to be the Premier Inn in Slough.
> A golfing lesson for FIL who is definitely not a golf person and has serious knee and back trouble, so he ended up off work for a month and shelling out hundreds for physiotherapy.
> Another romantic anniversary night away inexplicably in Glasgow [which is about 350 miles from where they live and not somewhere they've ever particularly wanted to go] staying at the very classy-sounding "Rennie Mackintosh Hotel" which was actually a homeless hostel.
> A cheap hot air balloon ride a hundred miles away even though MIL is terrified of heights.
> A home-made poster with all pictures of their grandkids which looked like it'd taken about twenty minutes to put together and was half the size of their living room wall.
> Two kittens.

Terrible stuff. I could go on....

Terrible stuff. I'm guessing that your Christmas, birthday is pretty crap too @SecretDeidre

crockofshite · 17/06/2024 13:57

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:25

Oh God, the list is endless.

> Romantic anniversary night away "in London" that turned out to be the Premier Inn in Slough.
> A golfing lesson for FIL who is definitely not a golf person and has serious knee and back trouble, so he ended up off work for a month and shelling out hundreds for physiotherapy.
> Another romantic anniversary night away inexplicably in Glasgow [which is about 350 miles from where they live and not somewhere they've ever particularly wanted to go] staying at the very classy-sounding "Rennie Mackintosh Hotel" which was actually a homeless hostel.
> A cheap hot air balloon ride a hundred miles away even though MIL is terrified of heights.
> A home-made poster with all pictures of their grandkids which looked like it'd taken about twenty minutes to put together and was half the size of their living room wall.
> Two kittens.

Terrible stuff. I could go on....

OMG

katseyes7 · 17/06/2024 13:58

It's ridiculous. You're his wife/partner, not his social secretary.
They're grown men. We shouldn't need to remind them about stuff like this.
On more than one occasion l didn't get birthday presents/cards in time for my birthday from my ex husband's family.
As his mother explained to me, for the simple reason that "he hadn't been to their house to collect them" but it didn't seem to occur to him after the first time that that was what they expected, or for them to ring him and ask him to call in to collect them.
They always made sure he always got his on time, though.....

PassingStranger · 17/06/2024 14:06

Benjina · 17/06/2024 11:52

Yes, this.

At any point during the day, MIL could have dropped her son a quick reminder, if she and FIL were that invested. But no, she chose the passive-aggressive sarky midnight text, for maximum annoyance spread across the whole family. And FIL is now working himself up to be "absolutely devastated" as well? Some people really go around trying their hardest to get offended.

Personally, I'm doing my best to train my DC (especially DS19) to put birthday reminders in their diaries, along with Father's Day etc, and instill the need to send a card and/or phone up. I've done too much reminding and enabling over the years, and it's time to train them to be functional adults. If they forget Mother's Day in the future then honestly I'll feel like that's a failure of mine for not bringing them up to be organised and considerate. (Or possibly a sign that our relationship isn't that great.) Your PIL need to take a look in the mirror.

Children have minds of their own and go their own way when older and have their own thoughts on things.

It's nothing to do with how they were raised as to whether you get a mother's day card or not.

Respectisnotoptional · 17/06/2024 14:06

paasll · 17/06/2024 11:09

Christ what a fucking baby FIL sounds and a bitch MIL sounds.

FIL: could have picked up the phone himslef to your DP and had a nice chat. But he didn’t want a chat, he wanted to have his feet kissed. Being devastated? Get a fucking grip. Prick.

MIL: could have texted saying hey do you know it’s Father’s Day, give your dad a call. Instead the manipulative bitch sent an aggressive text at midnight.

What a pair of childish, spoilt, manipulative weirdos they sound

What a ridiculous overeactive statement, it amazes me how people get so irate over such small things, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill 🙄

OP why didn't husband just phone Dad say sorry I forgot, it so simple.
Why take such offence at MIL comment, she’s from a generation where women did do these things.
The things people find to feel insulted about on here would make a comedy script, lighten up and live your life looking for the good in people instead of snapping and snarling at an every small comment!

Dontbeme · 17/06/2024 14:07

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:25

Oh God, the list is endless.

> Romantic anniversary night away "in London" that turned out to be the Premier Inn in Slough.
> A golfing lesson for FIL who is definitely not a golf person and has serious knee and back trouble, so he ended up off work for a month and shelling out hundreds for physiotherapy.
> Another romantic anniversary night away inexplicably in Glasgow [which is about 350 miles from where they live and not somewhere they've ever particularly wanted to go] staying at the very classy-sounding "Rennie Mackintosh Hotel" which was actually a homeless hostel.
> A cheap hot air balloon ride a hundred miles away even though MIL is terrified of heights.
> A home-made poster with all pictures of their grandkids which looked like it'd taken about twenty minutes to put together and was half the size of their living room wall.
> Two kittens.

Terrible stuff. I could go on....

I think SIL knows exactly what she is about with those gifts. They cannot complain as they would be "ungrateful" but the presents are so shite that she is ensuring they get exactly zero amount of enjoyment out of it, Bravo to her!

MistyMountainTop · 17/06/2024 14:09

easylikeasundaymorn · 17/06/2024 13:09

yes, that's why I also referred to 'or the emails...asking if you don't want to be reminded.' Personally I don't find them helpful, as most shops only send 1 email about father's day anyway, so either way it's 1 email reminding you about it. I appreciate if you opt out of that specific shop you then won't get reminded next year, but you'll still get something from places that don't offer the opt-out option, or another shop or organisation you've somehow been added to the mailing list for in the intervening year, so it's just all a bit of a waste of time.

I don't get many shopping type emails because I unsubscribe to them as soon as they're of no use.

I've also accidentally booked for Sunday lunch out on Mothering Sunday, being totally unaware of the day! It's really easy to miss if you don't celebrate those days and don't have primary school children to forcibly be made to remind you via their teachers!

BusyMummy001 · 17/06/2024 14:09

I forgot it too - DS finished his GCSEs on Friday, issue with building regs and arsey exbuilder/building inspector and a billion other things. Never missed it or forgotten before, and as both kids are on the spectrum they need managing fir this stuff… so my ‘fault’.

My DH didn’t care and said I could make it up to him if I’d pop to the supermarket and get a leg of lamb and some icecream. I did and the lovely bloke cooked it all for us. That said, my lovely bloke NEVER does Mothers Day as his dad never did it for his mum. I now just order his mum’s and my own flowers with a large side helping of champagne and stuff it on his card [evil maniacal laugh]…

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 17/06/2024 14:10

Just another example of the consequences of Brexit.

Or maybe Covid.

Or this Tory Government.

DaffydownClock · 17/06/2024 14:13

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:25

Oh God, the list is endless.

> Romantic anniversary night away "in London" that turned out to be the Premier Inn in Slough.
> A golfing lesson for FIL who is definitely not a golf person and has serious knee and back trouble, so he ended up off work for a month and shelling out hundreds for physiotherapy.
> Another romantic anniversary night away inexplicably in Glasgow [which is about 350 miles from where they live and not somewhere they've ever particularly wanted to go] staying at the very classy-sounding "Rennie Mackintosh Hotel" which was actually a homeless hostel.
> A cheap hot air balloon ride a hundred miles away even though MIL is terrified of heights.
> A home-made poster with all pictures of their grandkids which looked like it'd taken about twenty minutes to put together and was half the size of their living room wall.
> Two kittens.

Terrible stuff. I could go on....

Sounds like the crap presents my SiL gives:
A Thomas the Tank coat hanger for DS’s 10th birthday
A box of cable tidies for dh’s last birthday
6 packets of out of date corn kernels to make popcorn for DD’s birthday this year
A squashed bag of Twiglets (my Christmas present)

MiL gave me a used bar of coal tar soap and a face cloth 3 consecutive Christmas’s; I told dh that I wouldn’t be responsible for my actions if I ever saw her again.

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 14:14

@Respectisnotoptional

OP why didn't husband just phone Dad say sorry I forgot, it so simple
Because it was midnight when MIL text - we were in bed. DP got the text at 4:30am - I'm not sure they'd have appreciated a call that early in the morning. Then he was traveling so not able to call after that. Even if he wasn't traveling, he has an FT job so calling FIL this morning wouldn't be particularly feasible anyway.

Why take such offence at MIL comment, she’s from a generation where women did do these things
Because that's not how the world works now, and its certainly not the way our relationship works and MIL's very aware of this.

The things people find to feel insulted about on here would make a comedy script, lighten up and live your life looking for the good in people instead of snapping and snarling at an every small comment! I agree - insane to get "absolutely devastated" over not getting a phone call on a made-up holiday.

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paasll · 17/06/2024 14:15

Respectisnotoptional · 17/06/2024 14:06

What a ridiculous overeactive statement, it amazes me how people get so irate over such small things, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill 🙄

OP why didn't husband just phone Dad say sorry I forgot, it so simple.
Why take such offence at MIL comment, she’s from a generation where women did do these things.
The things people find to feel insulted about on here would make a comedy script, lighten up and live your life looking for the good in people instead of snapping and snarling at an every small comment!

It's not overreactive.

You really think that MIL waiting until midnight to (rudely and sarcastically) text her son about a forgotten father's day is in any way normal behaviour? You don't think that a normal person would have texted much earlier in the day and said, hey did you know it's fathers day, dad would love a call?

No, I haven't overreacted. MIL was manipulative and spiteful - and I don't tolerate that shit. If you want to let people treat you like that, that's up to you. But I call it out and put a stop to it.

lawnseed · 17/06/2024 14:15

Urgh, all these whiny adults. So undignified 🙄 it's just another day. Who cares if someone didn't get a card? My eldest ds always forgets because he's busy and has adhd. He still loves me though, I don't need a piece of cardboard to make me feel good about myself.

GOTBrienne · 17/06/2024 14:16

Personally I think grown ups getting upset by these holidays invented by card companies a bit ridiculous. It’s nice when your children are small but adults getting upset about their adult children not doing it, to me seems a bit odd.
The people I see most obsessed by it are the ones who weren’t/aren’t great parents anyway.

PassingStranger · 17/06/2024 14:17

Respectisnotoptional · 17/06/2024 14:06

What a ridiculous overeactive statement, it amazes me how people get so irate over such small things, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill 🙄

OP why didn't husband just phone Dad say sorry I forgot, it so simple.
Why take such offence at MIL comment, she’s from a generation where women did do these things.
The things people find to feel insulted about on here would make a comedy script, lighten up and live your life looking for the good in people instead of snapping and snarling at an every small comment!

It's the way people say things though, surely you can see that.
She could have worded it better, been more gentle.
This is how world War three breaks out in families.
Stay tactful unless you want to ruin family family relationships.

XiCi · 17/06/2024 14:19

Luxell934 · 17/06/2024 11:40

Nothing to do with you but he’s allowed to be upset his son forgot to call him on Father’s Day to be honest 🤷🏻‍♀️

Agreed. Not your job to facilitate this but for your DH to just say he'd call him later in the week is really shitty. I imagine realising your son doesn't give a shiny shit is quite hurtful.

Ginnnny · 17/06/2024 14:22

YANBU!!
Oh my god, this kind of shit really grinds my gears! My dad passed away nearly 15 years ago, so Fathers Day is only on my radar when the DCs tell me or ask for help getting something for my DP. Your DPs parents sound very similar to my DPs parents and now I'm wondering if you're my sister in law... hahahahah

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