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AIBU?

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.... to not be that fussed about FIL being "absolutely devastated" because I didn't tell DP about fathers day?

222 replies

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 10:42

Neither me nor DP registered that yesterday was fathers day.

Ergo, DP's dad didn't get the usual perfunctory phone call.

At midnight, DP received a text from his mum saying "Thanks for taking the time to call dad on fathers day".

This morning DP replied saying he hadn't realized but will call later this week.

An exchange ensued where the upshot is that DP's dad is "absolutely devastated" and DP should've known it was fathers day because I should've told him so

I'm disproportionately pissed off.

For context:
> I don't have a dad, ergo fathers day has never remotely been on my radar.
> I don't do wife work and PILs are fully aware of this.
> DP doesn't do cards, gifts or similar so wouldn't have actually sent anything to FIL - he'd have just called him.
> DP has been working 7-day weeks and in/out of the country for the last month or so which is why fathers day didn't register.
> DP and FIL aren't particularly close. We see them once or twice a year, DP speaks to them once a month or so.

AIBU to not give a shit because its not my circus, not my monkeys?

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MarkWithaC · 17/06/2024 12:28

paasll · 17/06/2024 11:09

Christ what a fucking baby FIL sounds and a bitch MIL sounds.

FIL: could have picked up the phone himslef to your DP and had a nice chat. But he didn’t want a chat, he wanted to have his feet kissed. Being devastated? Get a fucking grip. Prick.

MIL: could have texted saying hey do you know it’s Father’s Day, give your dad a call. Instead the manipulative bitch sent an aggressive text at midnight.

What a pair of childish, spoilt, manipulative weirdos they sound

Yes, exactly. How pass-agg of the MIL not to just send a jokey text saying ‘you haven’t forgotten have you?’
I hate this shit where someone leaves you to mess up or ‘fail’ and then criticises you for it. It was the dynamic in my family too and it’s really unsupportive and damaging.

Fuck em, OP.

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:32

Mumoftwo1316 · 17/06/2024 11:51

Yanbu at all.

Based on their own bonkers logic of everything being a woman's responsibility, why didn't MIL remind DH?!

"Son don't forget to call your Dad tomorrow"

Easy as that. They want women to do everything? Lead by example, MIL

[My own PILs are nothing like this and are lovely and have much higher expectations of their own son than of me!]

Edited

It would seem that MIL ceded the role of 'chief reminder' to me once I became the main female human in DP's life 😳

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SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:35

Wills890 · 17/06/2024 12:15

Did they bother to call their Dad?

No idea.

BIL usually sends a generic gift in the post.
SIL usually organizes a grand gesture for them but does it on the cheap so its quite shit and/or only organizes half of it so it actually saddles PIL with more work. That's a whole other thread.

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Newnamesameoldlurker · 17/06/2024 12:36

Your OP said you were feeling disproportionately annoyed. I don't think it's disproportionate at all. It's fucked up of them to blame you for this at all- but when you've lost your own dad it's just horrible. As a pp said - fuck them! I would be making sure your DH tells them off for this though

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:36

RuthW · 17/06/2024 12:11

You are both in the wrong.

He should have phoned his father.

How the heck am I in the wrong here? 🙄

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SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:38

Newnamesameoldlurker · 17/06/2024 12:36

Your OP said you were feeling disproportionately annoyed. I don't think it's disproportionate at all. It's fucked up of them to blame you for this at all- but when you've lost your own dad it's just horrible. As a pp said - fuck them! I would be making sure your DH tells them off for this though

Thank you. I think what I meant by "disproportionately annoyed" is that its annoyed me at all. I'd have liked to just shrug and laugh it off but its lodged in my head and I can't get rid.

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SequoiaTree · 17/06/2024 12:41

Yanbu. Not your responsibility. People have phone calendars and he can set himself an alarm for next year

MistyMountainTop · 17/06/2024 12:43

easylikeasundaymorn · 17/06/2024 11:11

am also a bit surprised that neither of you realised - don't you get loads of emails from anywhere you've ever bought something from referring to father's day gifts/asking if you don't want to be reminded. Plus it's been automatically on the calendar of every phone I've ever had.

Obviously that's still irrelevant and it is nothing at all to do with you and it's ridiculous of them to think it is.

I would say that it sounds like DH's apology wasn't particularly apologetic and telling them he'll call sometime in the week does sound quite dismissive, tbh and I can see why that escalated it. Ringing the next morning rather than just sending a text and at least pretending to be sorry would be the usual way someone who actually felt bad would react. But then if he doesn't have a great relationship with his father, fair enough if he doesn't want to fake it.

Yes, but when your father has died you opt out of those emails, they can be quite a hurtful reminder

crockofshite · 17/06/2024 13:00

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 12:35

No idea.

BIL usually sends a generic gift in the post.
SIL usually organizes a grand gesture for them but does it on the cheap so its quite shit and/or only organizes half of it so it actually saddles PIL with more work. That's a whole other thread.

Please start a new thread with this story, sounds entertaining 😃

ButtonsB · 17/06/2024 13:09

They are CF's...fortunately you see little of them.
As to Fathers day being everywhere, I missed it but my children knew and mentioned it to me.
I listen to the radio, no tv and missed it.

easylikeasundaymorn · 17/06/2024 13:09

MistyMountainTop · 17/06/2024 12:43

Yes, but when your father has died you opt out of those emails, they can be quite a hurtful reminder

yes, that's why I also referred to 'or the emails...asking if you don't want to be reminded.' Personally I don't find them helpful, as most shops only send 1 email about father's day anyway, so either way it's 1 email reminding you about it. I appreciate if you opt out of that specific shop you then won't get reminded next year, but you'll still get something from places that don't offer the opt-out option, or another shop or organisation you've somehow been added to the mailing list for in the intervening year, so it's just all a bit of a waste of time.

Wordsmithery · 17/06/2024 13:19

Another advantage of being single. You don't have idiotic inlaws with unreasonable expectations that require other people to compensate for their inability to build relationships.

Beautifulbythebay · 17/06/2024 13:23

Mil's priority was slagging you off. She surely had at least 12 hours she could have prompted dh to save fil's feelings...

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:25

crockofshite · 17/06/2024 13:00

Please start a new thread with this story, sounds entertaining 😃

Oh God, the list is endless.

> Romantic anniversary night away "in London" that turned out to be the Premier Inn in Slough.
> A golfing lesson for FIL who is definitely not a golf person and has serious knee and back trouble, so he ended up off work for a month and shelling out hundreds for physiotherapy.
> Another romantic anniversary night away inexplicably in Glasgow [which is about 350 miles from where they live and not somewhere they've ever particularly wanted to go] staying at the very classy-sounding "Rennie Mackintosh Hotel" which was actually a homeless hostel.
> A cheap hot air balloon ride a hundred miles away even though MIL is terrified of heights.
> A home-made poster with all pictures of their grandkids which looked like it'd taken about twenty minutes to put together and was half the size of their living room wall.
> Two kittens.

Terrible stuff. I could go on....

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PassingStranger · 17/06/2024 13:32

Is this the same for birthdays?
I presume that gets remembered.More important in my opinion than fathers day.
Not the right way to go about texting you anyway.
She was obvs upset but her approach was wrong.
People should learn more tact.

NamechangeMay24 · 17/06/2024 13:33

Well, as PIL are clearly the sort of people who expect their son to remember Father’s Day, if he wants a relationship with them he should have remembered.

I hope I am never considered ‘extended family’ by my own children to the extent I don’t get a card/present/text on special days.

So actually, his response should have been ‘so sorry, I forgot, I have been so busy and stressed, again, really sorry’ and then to phone them asap and repeat the apology. Which, if it was felt to be genuine (preferably because it was) should have led FIL to calm down and not even mention you.

Obviously, it is nothing to do with you. But I agree with the previous poster that they are blaming you as it is easier than blaming themselves for having brought up an unsatisfactory son.

And if it was my DH, I wouldn’t be terribly impressed with him in this situation. Because whilst I might understand the forgetting (you know his circumstances best) the apology does not sound great.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 17/06/2024 13:33

Tell them real men don't get worked up about Hallmark Holidays.

poolemoney · 17/06/2024 13:41

easylikeasundaymorn · 17/06/2024 11:11

am also a bit surprised that neither of you realised - don't you get loads of emails from anywhere you've ever bought something from referring to father's day gifts/asking if you don't want to be reminded. Plus it's been automatically on the calendar of every phone I've ever had.

Obviously that's still irrelevant and it is nothing at all to do with you and it's ridiculous of them to think it is.

I would say that it sounds like DH's apology wasn't particularly apologetic and telling them he'll call sometime in the week does sound quite dismissive, tbh and I can see why that escalated it. Ringing the next morning rather than just sending a text and at least pretending to be sorry would be the usual way someone who actually felt bad would react. But then if he doesn't have a great relationship with his father, fair enough if he doesn't want to fake it.

Why should OP realise? FIL is not her dad.

I get on well with my PIL and I have never got involved with their cards or occasion gifts, DH sorts it all.

I do buy things for them that I think they will like, but those are impromptu gifts given at random times, PIL are grateful and don't expect them.

redskydarknight · 17/06/2024 13:42

I also managed to miss that it was Fathers' Day yesterday until DH mentioned something fairly late on.

(Have opted out of emails, noted that Fathers' Day was coming up from shops but didn't register the actual date).

I may be projecting here, but is this a case of the in-laws using you as a convenient scapegoat for their bad relationship with DH? Much easier to blame any relationship issues on you, than admit that they might just actually not get on that much.

Quittingwifework · 17/06/2024 13:43

If your MIL actually cared about your FIL and it wasn’t about point scoring, she would have reminded him far earlier in the day so he could do something about it.

poolemoney · 17/06/2024 13:44

I may be projecting here, but is this a case of the in-laws using you as a convenient scapegoat for their bad relationship with DH? Much easier to blame any relationship issues on you, than admit that they might just actually not get on that much.

That's what I thought too.

StMarieforme · 17/06/2024 13:45

Not your fault. You're not your DP's administrator.

SecretDeidre · 17/06/2024 13:45

@TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment Well, quite 😉

@PassingStranger He mostly remembers his parents' birthdays but I think that's because him, his mum and his dad have the same birth date three consecutive months running so its quite easy!

@NamechangeMay24 Well that basically was his reply. He said he'd forgot because work had been so manic, he'd been traveling so much, and he'd call once he was back in the UK later this week. He'd assumed that'd get his dad over the "absolutely devastation" but apparently not.

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Insidelaurashead · 17/06/2024 13:45

IMO it's your responsibility to be involved in fathers day for:

  1. Your own father/father figure/person who you feel is that role to you, IF you want to/IF they exist

  2. Your partner/children's father, if your children are young enough to not be able to do that for themselves/with help (and if the father is actually in their lives/a good father)

  3. Your partner/a loved one/a friend who you are close to and you know will be struggling missing a deceased father on that day-in terms of it would be a nice thing to tell them you're thinking of them

Other than that-not your circus, not your monkeys!

girlfriend44 · 17/06/2024 13:45

This is why these stupid days should be banned.
It puts all sorts of pressure on people. Everybody's expectations are different.
We all have a birthday just stick to that.