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to think that my retired DH's expectations of me are unfair?

294 replies

ZoraTheGrey · 14/06/2024 15:21

I am really unsure about which, if either of us, is being unreasonable and would welcome views.

My DH is about 20 years older than me. I knew all along that this age difference would bite at some point but underestimated how much his retiring would affect us. He is in his early sixties and retired from his NHS job a few months ago with a decent but not-amazing pension. I am in my early forties and work for the NHS full time in a patient-facing role. We have a 10 year old DD together who is starting secondary school soon.

DH says he really misses me now I'm still working and he isn't. If I am ever back from work late or need to do extra things in the evenings / weekends (pretty unavoidable in my job but I'm not doing a great deal of extra), he gets upset. He wants us to keep almost all weekends and evenings ringfenced as time for us as a couple or to spend with our daughter (he has no issue with her doing clubs and seeing her friends, which is good, but he doesn't like it if I see a friend or want to do an activity alone like going for a run). He doesn't like it when we visit my family or his and tries to put strict time limits on this. If I go off to do anything without him he wants a hard deadline for my return and will sometimes ring me to say he missed me and wishes I'd come home sooner. He says things like 'I hardly ever get to see you' and 'we need quality time.'

I love DH and love spending time with him but I find this all too much. We live a lot closer to his family than mine so his restrictions on how much time we can spend visiting other people or having guests over really limit how much I see my DD and siblings. I haven't been able to keep up with friends really as even taking a phone call from one is met with disappointed looks from DH.

Things I've tried so far: agreeing to ringfence certain days of the week for exclusively spending time with him and DD when I'm not working (and no phonecalls); regular date nights at gigs, cinema etc; asking for flexible hours so I can have half a day a week off to spend with DH in exchange for starting my other days earlier; massively cutting down on my contact with friends; dropping out of a running group I used to attend weekly (that hurt); doing almost all ferrying of DD to weekend clubs and parties to make up for DH doing it so much in the week.

Something I haven't tried: going part-time. We could just about afford it. I guess the truth is - and here is the crux of why I might be the unreasonable one here - I don't really want to. I love my job and want to keep progressing in it.

In case it's relevant I'll add that:

  • DH is a wonderful dad and has always done loads with DD; he now handles school drop off and pick ups almost every day.
  • We share housework fairly equally but he does cook more than me and has been doing some bigger house repair things himself recently. He tells me he has no complaints with how much I contribute to housework etc (although frankly this has always been an area where I have room to up my game).
  • DH has lots of mates and also family living close by; I encourage him to do things 1:1 with them sometimes or just him and DD with his family once in a while but he usually says he doesn't want to - he's rather be with me. I have even suggested he could go away abroad with friends but he says he doesn't want to.
  • Money isnt a factor restricting what he can do that much as he has far more in savings than me and now that I'm the only earner, I've made it clear that I'm still happy for him to spend our joint money as he sees fit. I don't see that as his or mine.
  • DH is far from lazy but doesn't have a hobby he's really into, which probably contributes to him feeling restless and isolated.

That was exhausting to write and probably worse to read so if you've got this far, thank you and I await your judgement! I am worrying for the future of my marriage and whether I'll have to choose between this and having my own life at all.

You are being unreasonable - you should have more empathy for your DH's position and spend more time with him.

You are not being unreasonable - you shouldn't have to give up your own hobbies and friends to spend all non-working time with your DH.

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Beautifulbythebay · 14/06/2024 15:23

Get him a ddog..... You aren't responsible for the filling of his day /life...

ProjectsGalore · 14/06/2024 15:24

I would feel totally suffocated and resentful at this level of neediness and control over your time. I don't have any wise solutions but wanted to say you are not the unreasonable one here.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/06/2024 15:26

I don't really want to. I love my job and want to keep progressing in it.

Why on earth would this be unreasonable for an intelligent woman in her 40s?

Going part-time should be your choice, not his.

OMGsamesame · 14/06/2024 15:26

massively cutting down on my contact with friends; dropping out of a running group I used to attend weekly (that hurt)

It's unhealthy of him to expect and/or accept this of you

mountaingoatsarehairy · 14/06/2024 15:26

Jesus you dropped your running club?

his demand are insane. I would reinstate everything and suggest he gets a job or takes up volunteering asap. Or he’ll miss you more when you are divorced !

you are not his entertainment system. You are a person

Chonny · 14/06/2024 15:27

YANBU!!

He needs to do 100% of your DDs drops etc and all house & admin work to then free up your time if he's so insistent on dictating your time.

Do you think he's panicking about his own heathy life span /mortality.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/06/2024 15:27

Why isn’t he doing the lions share of the housework if you are the only one working? Your dd won’t need that much hands on supervision at 10 (my youngest is 10).

Hes being unreasonable re your time - you have to be allowed your own life aside from work and him. I’d be keeping my career going so as to leave the option of leaving him if this carries on!

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/06/2024 15:28

Definitely rejoin the running club and reinstate things in your life as they were.

Userccjlnhibibljn8 · 14/06/2024 15:28

I don't want to be the harbinger of doom, but do read up on controlling and coercive behaviour, and consider what is driving his actions - it may be driven by his desire to spend time with you, but it does sound as if you are doing your best to manage the transisition. How was he before he retired with your 'shared' time.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 14/06/2024 15:28

It sounds like he's trying to isolate you, you've given up friends, clubs and now he wants you to give up work, he totally unreasonable and very, very controlling.

angeltulips · 14/06/2024 15:28

your set up sounds totally unfair. He wants you to work full time, do an equal share of housework, overparent on the weekend to “compensate” for him doing drop offs and pick ups during the week and then prioritise any remaining time left for him to the extent he raises eyebrows if you take a phone call?

definitely not right OP

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GrumpyPanda · 14/06/2024 15:28

Do you want to spend the next 20 years like this? He needs to get a life. Even another job if need be. And you should at a minimum go back to yiur running.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/06/2024 15:29

No no no. You are only in your forties and you have many years of normal career time ahead of you, just as he did at your age. He doesn't get to age you twenty years so you can potter around with him.

If anything it sounds as if he would benefit from a job or other fixed occupation to stop him getting bored and expecting you to fill the gap his job has left.

Or maybe you could get him to take up cycling? Grin

LookOutsideTheRain · 14/06/2024 15:29

I can’t believe he made you give up your friends 😔

Renamed · 14/06/2024 15:29

Rejoin your running club! This is awful

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/06/2024 15:29

The fact that he doesn't even want you to speak to your friends or go for a run is a massive red flag tbh....

Have there been signs of controlling behaviour from him before? (Because, make no mistake about it, controlling is what it is.)

The fact that you even think you might be unreasonable is also a red flag - he seems to have done a bit of a number on you.

CombatLingerie · 14/06/2024 15:30

I don’t think you are being unreasonable OP. Hopefully your husband is just in a transition period and adjusting to his retirement. I do think his demands on you at the moment are unreasonable. Would he consider some sort of part time employment? Or as a PP suggested getting a dog? Or some sort of volunteering role? That might distract him from needing your presence so much. Hope the situation improves for you OP.

Renamed · 14/06/2024 15:30

And if he’s so bored he should get a job

AddersAtDawn · 14/06/2024 15:30

You married a man much older you you, knowing you would be at different life stages. That is true. BUT he married a woman much younger than him and should have expected the same.

I wouldn't think it fair if you tried to get him to live like a 40-50 year old man and it is not fair he is trying to get you to live like you are retired.

The only thing I would say is to hold firm. He is only a few months into retirement and I know a few older relatives who didn't 'find their retired feet' for a while after they stopped work. You cannot be his retirement entertainment and he needs to understand that and find what else he wants to fill his days with.

OhFensa · 14/06/2024 15:30

He needs a dog and some hobbies. Jesus wept.

sleekcat · 14/06/2024 15:30

It sounds as though he's not handling retirement and all the free time very well, but that's his problem to sort out. You've given him lots of suggestions but if he doesn't choose to do anything on his own then I don't think you should be missing out on your friendships. You shouldn't give up your own hobbies either! That's not healthy. Why doesn't he want to go out with his friends? Is it because they are older like him and therefore doing stuff with their wives etc? Whatever the reason, don't stop doing the things you like because of it - I wouldn't.

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Idontjetwashthefucker · 14/06/2024 15:28

It sounds like he's trying to isolate you, you've given up friends, clubs and now he wants you to give up work, he totally unreasonable and very, very controlling.

100% - he is slowly cutting her off from all her sources of outside support and friendship.

DaisyChain505 · 14/06/2024 15:31

If the tables were turned, would he be ok with you demanding all of this? I think not.

I understand retirement can be hard to adjust to and setting aside one evening or day for a date night or family day is lovely but you 100% should not be having to sacrifice seeing you friends and family or important hobbies just because your husband is now retired and bored.