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To have yelled and sworn at DS 12 for 20 minutes non stop in the car

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Lavatera · 14/06/2024 07:28

Help.
I think I'm going mad and I've damaged my precious DS 12.
I haven't slept all night and I can't stop thinking that the baby I fell so in love with 12 years ago has been yelled and sworn at by me 12 years later.
I feel so, so sad, I don't know what to do with myself.
Yesterday, we had to drive to a town 50 minutes away to see a theatre production.
It was a special treat for my DD's (10) birthday present.
The performance started at 6pm so I knew we'd be driving through rush hour traffic, and the A roads between where we live and this town are well known to be hell at rush hour.
I really wanted to arrive early, in time to find parking, pay on the parking meter, and get to the theatre with enough to sit and have drinks together before going in to the performance. Not to mention I paid a fortune for a family ticket, but it was a show that DD really wanted to see.
So I'd spent 2 days telling DS that he must absolutely make sure that he was ready to walk out of the house at the time I'd set, I told him the time we needed to leave, and I reminded him at regular intervals.
On top of that, I was prompting him an hour before to start getting ready, 45 mins before, 30 mins before, 15 mins before.....he kept telling me I was overestimating the travel time because he'd checked his phone and seen it was only a 35 minute drive. No, I said, that's wrong, it takes 50 minutes, plus it's rush hour so we need to add extra time, plus I need to allow time to park and pay, and I want to arrive ahead of the show starting. I explained to him it was a special evening out and that he must be ready on time.
Nope. He was wasn't ready to leave. I mean by this point I was tailgating him around the house telling him to get dressed, get ready, etc.
So the time came to leave, me and DD had been ready for ages, I'd sent DS upstairs to get dressed, but DS still wasn't dressed, hair not brushed, shoes not on, at the time we had to leave.
Turns out that instead of going upstairs to get dressed and brush his hair like I'd asked him repeatedly to do, he'd decided to ho and sit on the toilet for 30 minutes 'in case he needed to go whilst at the theatre' and he walked out of the bathroom completely not ready.
I started stressing, I knew what the roads would be like, I ended up physically putting his clothes in his hands and telling him to dress, I brushed his hair, he was arguing at me to 'calm down' because I was annoyed by this point. It took him ages then faffing around, before we eventually got in the car 35 minutes later than the time I'd set.
We set off, and I lost it with him. I knew the tailbacks we'd face on the roads and I just developed this irrational anger. I shouted and shouted and shouted. And swore. Oh my God. I was shouting "YOU'RE SO SELFISH! YOU'VE MADE US LATE! YOU'VE RUINED THE EVENING! WE'RE GOUNG TO MISS THE SHOW! THEY WON'T LET US IN IF WE ARRIVE LATE! WE'RE FUCKING LAAAAAATE! LOOK AT THE FUCKING TRAFFIC!!!!! WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS????" Honestly, I was like a woman possessed. I could not stop shouting. And I didn't stop raging for 20 full minutes. I was shouting so loud he had his fingers in his ears. DD was upset by my shouting.
I can't believe I shouted and swore like that.
For background, he makes us late for almost every single thing we ever have to be on time for. He's made us late for so many important events by just not listening to all my instructions and prompts and motivation and chivvying him along.....nothing, literally nothing works to get him out the house on time. Not even the threat of school detentions when he can't get ready even with my help in time in the mornings.
Christmas. I cannot believe I shouted for 20 mins and swore at my darling boy in a moving vehicle that he couldn't get out of so he couldn't walk away from me.
And upset DD in the process.
So the traffic was gridlock.
We arrived late, missed the start of the show, they let us in but wouldn't let us sit in our seats, they stuck us at the back in staff seats where we couldn't see very well (I'd bought prime position front central seats, I could see them sitting empty), and we all had a miserable evening.

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Renamedyetagain · 14/06/2024 07:31

You're only human. The swearing wasnt ideal but you were trying to create a lovely birthday evening and he fucked it up.

DustyLee123 · 14/06/2024 07:32

Why did you take him? I think you need to get someone to sit with him while you go, until he’s old enough to be left.
Ive gone for YABU because you know what he’s like.

Grandmasswagbag · 14/06/2024 07:33

I don't blame you. Id have probably done the same. Actually I'd have walked out and left him before he ruined dds birthday treat!

determinedtomakethiswork · 14/06/2024 07:33

I really think that you should've gone without him.

I know exactly how you feel and I've been like that twice in my life. The first time I got antidepressants in order to cope. They did work.

The second time I got HRT.

That worked as well.

Springchickenonion · 14/06/2024 07:33

You are going to get people who jump on you. But look. You are human. This is a straw that broke the camels back situation. I get it.

Apologise to him for getting angry and shouting but then explain to him, that yes, he was selfish and next time you will be leaving without him.

No mor shimmering him along. Let him be late for everything on his own including school etc. He will soon learn.

And hugs. We all have a breaking point. The important thing us you recognised it wasn't great and you will deal with it.

Also, I have had a similar outburst before. We are only human

Teacherbee85 · 14/06/2024 07:34

Sorry your evening was spoiled OP. That sounds really stressful 😫

Tristar15 · 14/06/2024 07:34

Given that you were late and missed the start this could be a lesson for him. Not ideal that you shouted for so long but this is clearly a build up of frustration at his continued lateness and not listening.

VestPantsandSocks · 14/06/2024 07:35

He totally deserved the telling off.

Your only mistake was waiting for him, you should have left at the specified time.

frannygallops · 14/06/2024 07:35

If you know he's always late then you need to set off ages in advance. Even if you're going to get their ridiculously early. Or don't take him

Springchickenonion · 14/06/2024 07:35

What was his reaction @Lavatera ? Was he bothered?

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 14/06/2024 07:36

I think you reacted understandably in thr situation, and I hope he realises he's fucked up and apologises.

Honestly children can be so selfish sometimes. They really do need a good (literal) hammer blow sometimes to get through.

The length of rant and the fact that it also upset your daughter is sub optimal but don't beat yourself up and for God's sake don't apologise to your son. Make him apologise to you and your daughter and you can apologise to her.

(And remind him to be grateful he wasn't being parented 50 years ago because instead of being sworn at he woud have been slippered/smacked.)

MiddleParking · 14/06/2024 07:36

It sounds like he behaved disgracefully on purpose to ruin his sister’s evening so I think a shouting at is the least he deserves for that at his age.

ElleLeopine · 14/06/2024 07:36

I'm not sure which way to vote.
Obviously it was not ideal to be screaming for that long, but it came from a place of utter frustration, which I completely understand. It wasn't just this occasion, this was just the final one.
Can you sit down with DS today and explain why you felt the way you did? Surely he must realise that he did in fact make you late?
Is he neuro diverse? Is he like this at school?

CryptoFascist · 14/06/2024 07:36

I would, and have, done the same.

You're probably feeling worse than he is right now. Don't beat yourself up, we all have a breaking point.

TeaKitten · 14/06/2024 07:36

What was his reaction OP?

Dustpantsandbush · 14/06/2024 07:36

Meh. He fucked around and found out. Apologize to DD and don’t take him next time. Give yourself a break. If he’s going to act like a twat he needs to deal with the consequences.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 14/06/2024 07:37

I had a meltdown at my 2 x DS a while back. I was like a woman possessed and actually flung some stuff on the floor like a toddler. This was all about me working like a slave and them just being slobs.
I did apologise afterwards and I felt bad losing it like that but honestly it actually made a difference. They are way more considerate now and spontaneously clear up stuff in the kitchen.
So I'd say apologise to DS if you haven't. Explain why you did lose it. And you never know it may help ...

Hiddenvoice · 14/06/2024 07:38

You’re human, yes shouting and swearing isn’t great but you’ve reacted when you’re stressed and it seems like you’re not normally like this?

Today I would speak to dd, apologise for shouting and calmly explain you wanted her to enjoy her treat but she ended up not getting the full experience. Offer to go out just the two of you so you can make it up to her for scaring her.

Then speak to ds and apologise for shouting and swearing. Explain that as an adult you shouldn’t have allowed your temper to get that way. Then calmly ask him why he thought you were so upset. See if he can understand that he caused this reaction and then gently point out that he needs to become more responsible for his time keeping and more respectful of adults. you understand as a child that he doesn’t see the bigger picture but you have far more experience driving busy roads and you had planned to leave at that time for a reason. That next time you give countdowns etc then he needs to listen to you. Personally I would make sure you have a back up olan
and leave him with a baby sitter.

footgoldcycle · 14/06/2024 07:38

Honestly the meltdown wasn't ideal but your Ds was being utterly selfish.

Loubelle70 · 14/06/2024 07:38

We all drop the rational stick when angry at times.
Go without him next time, for anything, he will miss out if he dawdles, thats the price to pay. Has he SEN? Or just getting into lazy teen mode...or pure lazy xxx

RaininSummer · 14/06/2024 07:38

I don't blame you. It was all his fault and it seems he does this regularly. Maybe he will learn this time since he ruined the evening.

Tarantella6 · 14/06/2024 07:38

Well you were proved right. Your tickets were effectively wasted. If you'd got there on time and proved him right then it would have been a massive overreaction but that wasn't the case.

If you can afford it I'd take dd for another treat (ideally one he would enjoy) and leave him behind because he's made it clear he can't be trusted to follow a basic instruction even with you following him round the house.

I can't stand being late and this sounds like a case of him being determined to be right. Not an attractive quality.

RagzRebooted · 14/06/2024 07:38

determinedtomakethiswork · 14/06/2024 07:33

I really think that you should've gone without him.

I know exactly how you feel and I've been like that twice in my life. The first time I got antidepressants in order to cope. They did work.

The second time I got HRT.

That worked as well.

Agree with this. You should have left him behind.
Also empathise. I have had sweary rages at my kids in the past. Turned out to be triggered by PMT was greatly improved by getting my underactive thyroid treated and again later on by taking contraceptive pills. I recognise the feeling of losing control and the shame and guilt afterwards.
As PPs said, you're only human.
But maybe look at whether there's something hormonal or depression in the background that made you lose it so badly.

Xmasfairy86 · 14/06/2024 07:39

I don’t blame you. Sounds like it tipped you over the edge.

apologise for the language, but the sentiment stands.

agree with others, don’t take him for future events you have set times for - it’s not worth the stress for any of you.

Ffs22 · 14/06/2024 07:39

I’d be mad too, go without him next time if you can leave him.
If you have to go out somewhere altogether, lie and tell him event starts an hour earlier than it really does.

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