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This school mum is really pissing me off now !!!

225 replies

bigca · 12/06/2024 16:42

She's so judgemental I feel.

She came to my house for a play date with her child, before I really knew what she was like of course...

She pulled me up on a couple of things I said about my DD. I posted about it at the time. I think I said she can be a bit stubborn and she told me not to say it. A couple of other similar comments. She also went all out praising her child A LOT.

Anyway, I decided there and then that I will never have a play date again ( unless requested by my child of course ).

I continue to be polite, but she's really grating on me now. She's always saying she can't understand my DD.

Yesterday my DD said my name. She said ' my mummy's name is Amelia ' to which the lady was like: ' I thought your name is Emilia '. Or some minor BS. My DD says my name just fine, I responded and said ' it's Amelia ' just like she said. To which she said ' no she said Emilia. It sounded like Emilia '. ( names changed of course ). The long and short of it is that however my DD said it, is how my name is said, she was just being nit picky. She also told my DD off because my DD found a loud noise funny.

Then today she was again hanging around us and my DD said something else- to which the mum asked me again ' what did she say ? ' she keeps not being able to understand my child and it's pissing me off. My DD wasn't even talking to her.

We went on a school trip the other day and she was also there. She just kept picking up on small things and making fun of me not being able to look after my group. I had the youngest kids in my group and sometimes I had to herd them along a bit. She had fewer children in her group and thought she was nailing it compared to me, of course.

I get the feeling she judges my DD all the time now, especially because she keeps saying she doesn't understand what she's saying.

Anyway, she really pisses me off now and I keep having to see her around. I don't know how I'm going to shut her up. But I'm afraid one day I am just going to snap and be quite direct with her.

In my head it will go something like : ' sorry, do you realise how terribly judgemental you come across ? ' ' you're constantly making nasty comments about my parenting and also judging my child. Can you just back off ? '

I hope they're not in the same class next year. They're both only 4 and start reception in September.

OP posts:
Fraaahnces · 13/06/2024 12:24

Avoid her. She will inevitably confront you about this (in front of witnesses.) Tell her that she is quite correct and you have in fact, been avoiding her. Tell her that your reasoning is that this is for her own protection as her constant criticisms and barbs aimed at your child are giving you the rage, but you’re not the sort to humiliate others in public.

TammyJones · 13/06/2024 12:36

Oh the good old school
Run.
I never made a single friend in school playground waiting to collect dd or ds.
I used to fret about it.
Not anymore.
But I have literally dozens and dozens of friends at work.
The only thing you have in common with the mums is - you have a child.
Do not give them a single thought.
Just ignore her.
Smile politely and move away.
( that will really ruffle her feathers)
She will feel the loss of control over you ...
I kinda see where your dh is coming from.
If he's experienced jealous from others growing up because of his massive house it explains a lot.
I've lost a close family member, about 2 years ago, because my house is now bigger than theirs (Confused)
But your dh is wrong ti stop your dd 's friends coming over.
There is a middle ground.
Just invite them
It's probably 50 / 50 you'll get a good set.
Thinking about it I grew up in a fairly big house and had friends from all walks of life.
But my mum was super confident ( not saying you're not) and very bubbly and chatty and people seemed to like her a lot.
In your situation mum world have just felt sorry for her.

Mummy2024 · 13/06/2024 12:43

bigca · 13/06/2024 10:47

The thing is, whenever I will invite anyone- if they then turn out to be not so great, he'll always blame me for having made the wrong choice.
It's not a good situation and I'll need to have another talk with him. I'm not happy at all.

Regarding the woman and my perceives sensitivities to her behaviour- it's not my perception, she's just a dick. I've put up with it long enough now and seen it a lot of times, to know that she's simply a dick, who thinks she's a better mum and that she knows a lot about how to parent, because she's read a book about it.

That's it. There's nothing else to that. It's just how she is. I can tell she stops herself from going further too. She can't help herself. If she had her way entirely and didn't try to stop herself, it would be even more critical. She is also around 5 years older than me, only has one child. She really thinks she knows what she's doing, because her child is quite well behaved and calm.

I acctually think your DH is abit of a snob and your not. He doesn't want people with no money and lower social standing around your house or your daughter. Probably has some ill-concieved notion that the best silver will go walk abouts lol

Whilst he's being abit controlling and abit of an idiot about the situation, I don't think it's right to say that he's abusive either. I feel from from this OP's demeanor in her wording that she's got her own mind and she speaks it to him, people in abusive relationships very much struggle to do that in my opinion. Couples argue and differ on views my husband may say he doesn't want certain people round our house, that's his right as it's his house to, the question is what he would do if I ignored that and brought them anyway which I would if I didn't agree and this OP did to. He complained she brought them round anyway, so she's not feared of him or under his control.

BlackeyedSusan · 13/06/2024 12:51

Tell her about the free hearing tests they do at (insert local pharmacy)

Blinds1 · 13/06/2024 13:13

OP, you and your children are completely normal and you sound lovely.

This woman is a complete pai in the arse.
You are not going g to want her in your circle, so cease engaging.
Bd abrupt, walk away as she approaches you.
I can well imagine you are not happy with your husband.
His behaviour is very controlling and sinister.
Are you afraid of him?
Womans aid will confirm that his behaviour is coercive and abusive.
He may not fully realise it, (though I doubt it) but this will get worse and you will not want him around your children full-time.
Reach out to family and friends.
Reach out for support.
Talk to your GP.
Get some support via therapy.
Do you work?
If not, you need to be looking at returning to it.
Refuse to engage or defend yourself against his gaslighting you.
I would stop him speaking and ask him does he realise just how unhappy you are in this marriage......let him hear this.

PippyLongTits · 13/06/2024 13:28

All children are different. My first was a runner, would zoom off in all directions and actively seek out danger. My youngest wouldn't leave my side. My eldest would chat constantly (& overshare wwith total strangers) wheras my second is practically mute around new people. It has far more to do with their personalities than my parenting.
Her kid might be more compliant, but that is how he is as a person, not exclusively down to her fabulous parenting.

As others have suggested, I would question her hearing "do you need your hearing checked? That's the second time you haven't been able to hear her" or be direct and say "can you please stop commenting on my daughter's speech? You've done it a few times now and I don't appreciate it. She is 4, she is learning and you are going to damage her confidence if you keep this up."

RosesAndHellebores · 13/06/2024 13:28

Big smile "oh dear, another thing that displeases you. I'll make a list for both of us". Tinkly laugh and walk swiftly to soeak to someone else nicer

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 13/06/2024 13:44

No fucker would be "telling" me what to say/not say, or do with MY child.

She's be getting told it was none of her damn business and to butt out! The very first time anyone tries that nonsense with me.

I find once you challenge these types, they will bugger off and find some other doormat to bully and take their insecurities out on.

Investinmyself · 13/06/2024 14:27

I’d really try and avoid her. She’s not going to win any friends with that attitude.
She sounds awful.
If boot was on other foot and you were criticising her child and telling her off she’d be outraged.

Feelingblue77 · 13/06/2024 14:28

I've not read the whole thread, but just to say, it does sound like she is jealous. However you should be able to invite people over without having to worry about their jealousy.

When DD was young, she had a friend with the most fabulous house - swimming pool, tennis courts etc. Our house was perfectly fine - but ordinary!

I wasn't jealous, and it didn't stop me from being friends with that Mum. I was grateful to her for having DD over as she loved it. Likewise her DD seemed to have fun with us.

People can be weird, and unkind and generally lose the plot a bit. Sadly you are at the start of school years, so have more of this to come so don't let it drag you down. Say something to her, in a polite way and move on. Good luck! I miss my DD being young, but don't miss some of this type of thing.

Halfemptyhalfling · 13/06/2024 14:55

You can ask for the girls not to be in the same reception class

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:34

bigca · 12/06/2024 17:02

I didn't say bad things about my DD in front of her. I just said she can be stubborn and strong willed. DD was not in ear shot.

I was very natural with her telling her about a holiday we'd had with both of the kids last year and how much hard work it was getting them to the beach etc. and how they're both very lively, spirited kids. I didn't say bad things about my kids. But just that they're very lively. Her child is very compliant and quiet. Which I didn't know before we started to spend time together.

I have a toddler as well as a 4 year old and last year's summer holiday was a lot of work.

She picked up on the fact I said DD can be stubborn. I also took my younger one's dummy out of his mouth and she made sure to tell me something about respecting kids and not taking stuff from them. That kind of vibe.

You are very restrained...

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:36

bigca · 12/06/2024 22:33

Everyone commenting on the house thing..

I've just been talking to my husband about it and he's now berating me for ever having invited her over and saying that's why I shouldn't invite people over to our place.

He says it's 100 percent because she's jealous and now talking it out on our DD and it's all my fault for inviting her to the house.

She really seemed lovely and I spoke to her a lot before inviting her over. He's now going to make it even harder for me to have DD's friends over.

He already wasn't happy that I invited her that time and I invited another mum another time, as my DD really wanted to have a play date.

This just sucks. Wish I never told him ! He's loving this now, to prove his point that I'm not careful enough and too open with people and apparently I can't pick the right people.

Your husband is also nuts

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:36

bigca · 12/06/2024 22:44

@Mummy2024 I'm really annoyed.

It's so condescending and disrespectful. Like I'm too dumb and naive to be able to pick the right people.

There's another couple of mums I like and my DD is friends with their DDs and he's said they can't come over, as the same thing will happen apparently.

He's not your boss and it's your house too

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:37

bigca · 12/06/2024 23:05

@Mummy2024 he has a thing about letting people in the house.

He says we need to be careful who we allow in, because it can have negative consequences if people get jealous.

We don't live in a palace or anything, but it's a nice house.

He grew up in a pretty massive house and I think did experience some issues around it. Apparently people treated him differently once they knew what his house was like- same for his siblings.

So he's funny about it.

I'm really not funny about it and would like my DD's friends to come and play here.

Then let them

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 13/06/2024 15:41

bigca · 12/06/2024 22:44

@Mummy2024 I'm really annoyed.

It's so condescending and disrespectful. Like I'm too dumb and naive to be able to pick the right people.

There's another couple of mums I like and my DD is friends with their DDs and he's said they can't come over, as the same thing will happen apparently.

Can't?

CAN'T? Angry

Who the FUCK does he think he is - King of the Hill, how dare he. he has no right to dictate who comes into YOUR home as well.

What a prick.

Pantaloons99 · 13/06/2024 15:44

I haven't read all updates so apologies in case covered

The only way to get away from this is to physically distance. I'd do everything possible to avoid any interaction by being as far away physically as possible, by always being on the go and sorry got to dash, got loads to do type vibe.
Do you absolutely have to be in her presence. She sounds an utter dick and will have you in a tailspin and stressed out which you don't want.

It's made harder by the fact your child is more of a live wire and strong willed. That stress can make you snappy eventually as you know full well you're being judged. I've been there. Avoidance at all costs equals peaceful life

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:46

bigca · 13/06/2024 06:38

I clearly struggle to some extent with being assertive.

You should have seen him last night, he was basking in it. He LOVED it. He was telling me off, like a dad may tell of his teenage daughter. I'm SO pissed off. I'm not being treated as an equal. I'm being treated like an idiot who can't make good decisions. I know some of the other school mums situations ( how they live ) and he pretty much doesn't want me to invite anyone who might live in a flat or similar to our house. Again, this sounds like we live in a palace. We don't live in a place, but we have a nice house.

Some of the school mums have talked about their living situations, others haven't. So what do I do now ? Ask them all for a P60, before they can visit my DD ? It's ridiculous. He says he's trying to avoid problems for her. He doesn't want her to get bullied. Apparently I just don't ' get it '.

As for the lady, I'll need to see what the right thing in the moment is. I am also considering asking the school to put them in different classes. Or I may just ask which class my DD will be in. None of the other parents have behaved this way at all towards my DD or me.

When one of my DDs went to Secondary school she had a couple of extremely wealthy friends.

We're talking Georgian houses in several acres. We live on a nice village estate so no comparison

I was invited into theirs for coffee. The parents came to mine. The girls had sleepovers, dinners and went out together from both types of house - no problems.

Your husband is nuts. With a chip on his shoulder

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 15:48

Beachballplayer · 13/06/2024 10:57

Are you peeved that her child is calm and behaved and yours is not? You also mentioned that she praised her child a lot and you made a big point of this. I really am not sure that this lady is the problem here.

I am. And so is the OP's husband

RavenhairedRachel · 13/06/2024 17:51

I wouldn't tell her ro back off It would be another phrase ending in off. Followed by you nasty (insert word of choice )

Jessy19861 · 13/06/2024 18:06

I’m sorry you have had to feel this way. All mothers/ fathers have had to experience this within primary schools.

you have been fantastic in not retaliating
to her comments. The best way I would say is to continue what your doing and get to know the others parents more, as they can back you up if anything happens.

Runsyd · 13/06/2024 18:09

Fade away and pray that karma delivers her a living terror as her next child.

Sleepytiredyawn · 13/06/2024 18:13

Pull her up on the speech part, it’s not on.

My child had/has a Speech delay that turned into a Stammer and the one thing you never do it focus on everything they say and nit pick. I’m not saying your child has any sort of Speech delay but she’s bang out of order for doing what she’s doing and for this part alone I’d have told her to fuck off.

From what you have said, she shouldn’t be helping out with school activities as she doesn’t know how to behave appropriately around/to children.

StrawberryWater · 13/06/2024 18:15

Just do what I did when I was faced with a snarky, jealous, competitive type at my sons school.

Look at her and say, "What a strange woman you are" and ignore her antics.

ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 13/06/2024 18:15

Are Amelia and Emilia pronounced differently?!

Sorry not helpful.

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