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To sleep with a 23 year old?

672 replies

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

OP posts:
Oblomov24 · 05/06/2024 21:20

19 not 29. Mistype.

WestSussexWitch · 05/06/2024 21:25

Go for it and have some fun! When I was 24 I had a fling with a man more than twice my age, I don’t regret it at all, he was handsome, wealthy, charming and amazing in bed.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/06/2024 21:26

CrappyJob · 05/06/2024 20:48

Have you never heard of Freud? The Oedipus Complex? Or at a really base level, incest?

Some men have a thing for their mother... and they want to act on it with older women that aren't their mother.

Well that is the epitome of creepy.

Cliedi · 05/06/2024 21:51

S0livagant · 05/06/2024 18:49

Creepy. Way outside of the half plus seven rule.

What? No it isn’t

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 05/06/2024 21:55

It’s a bit grim if you’re old enough to be their mum but if it’s just a shagging arrangement should be harmless I guess. I mean he’s not a teenager, though he was 4 years ago

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:07

I'd be keen to know what the posters who think a young man who finds older women sexy and desirable must be 'creepy' and 'perverted' believe the cut off age for women to be attractive is?

I'm 51 and whilst I'm no supermodel I'm not bad; I can think of plenty of women 40 and 50+ who are incredibly sexy - one of my friends always had a thing for Kristin Scott Thomas years ago when she was at least twice his age, and IMO it's not difficult see why even now she must be 60+?

When do we become so hideous that we should be automatically disregarded by anyone more than 5-10 years younger than our own age?

Bloom15 · 05/06/2024 22:08

WeHaveLostSightBlah · 05/06/2024 19:14

Age gap relationships is my hill to die on. Hate them. Would be horrified if my young adult kids were in one. I cannot even imagine fancying someone so much younger. It’s legal but horrible in every way.

This is how I feel too.

My brother is 10 years older than me and that always seemed far too old!

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 05/06/2024 22:10

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:07

I'd be keen to know what the posters who think a young man who finds older women sexy and desirable must be 'creepy' and 'perverted' believe the cut off age for women to be attractive is?

I'm 51 and whilst I'm no supermodel I'm not bad; I can think of plenty of women 40 and 50+ who are incredibly sexy - one of my friends always had a thing for Kristin Scott Thomas years ago when she was at least twice his age, and IMO it's not difficult see why even now she must be 60+?

When do we become so hideous that we should be automatically disregarded by anyone more than 5-10 years younger than our own age?

Edited

The guy literally said he wants to sleep with ‘an older woman’. It’s a fetish / bucket list shag

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:12

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 05/06/2024 22:10

The guy literally said he wants to sleep with ‘an older woman’. It’s a fetish / bucket list shag

Exactly! The older woman concerned also wants to sleep with him, so where is the problem? Nobody is being coerced, exploited or lied to, are they?

TheRomanticOutlaw · 05/06/2024 22:14

Two consenting adults having sex. That’s all it is. Go for it, fill your boots and ignore all the pearl -clutching.

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 05/06/2024 22:14

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:12

Exactly! The older woman concerned also wants to sleep with him, so where is the problem? Nobody is being coerced, exploited or lied to, are they?

Don’t latch onto me

Pearlinda · 05/06/2024 22:15

Ahhh just shag him. Have a great time

Cooper77 · 05/06/2024 22:15

Creepy. And be aware that he’s just using you. Not nice to imagine him laughing about you with his mates.

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:16

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 05/06/2024 22:14

Don’t latch onto me

Er, you quoted my post?

I've no intention of 'latching onto' you - why would I? I don't know where you've been.

SherrieElmer · 05/06/2024 22:17

If it is legal then it is ok. Go for it.

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 22:19

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:07

I'd be keen to know what the posters who think a young man who finds older women sexy and desirable must be 'creepy' and 'perverted' believe the cut off age for women to be attractive is?

I'm 51 and whilst I'm no supermodel I'm not bad; I can think of plenty of women 40 and 50+ who are incredibly sexy - one of my friends always had a thing for Kristin Scott Thomas years ago when she was at least twice his age, and IMO it's not difficult see why even now she must be 60+?

When do we become so hideous that we should be automatically disregarded by anyone more than 5-10 years younger than our own age?

Edited

You’re missing the point of why it’s creepy. It’s nothing to do with how ‘good’ a woman looks in middle age and all to do with the reason why a young 20 something wants to specifically have a liaison with an older woman. It’s either that he is objectifying her as a ‘learning curve’ shag with someone he deems an easier pick up than a woman his own age, or he’s MILF porn saturated, or both. Yes an older woman may be objectively attractive, but actively only perusing older women for a hook up? Definitely creep.

Harara · 05/06/2024 22:20

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 18:59

To add - the fact he wants to sleep with older women is very likely to mean he’s crap in bed and wants a more ‘experienced’ woman to be his teacher (massive ick in itself). He probably thinks (and would be proving as much if you went ahead) that older women are an easier shag target because they want to be validated about their ability to still ‘get it’ with extra points for getting a man half their age. So maybe in terms of ‘just a shag’ at these ages, it’s less creepy and just a bit sad really. One who can’t find a woman his own age to build a great sexual relationship with and one who just wants their ‘sexual prowess’ validated.

You sound envious of the OP.

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 22:22

Harara · 05/06/2024 22:20

You sound envious of the OP.

Oh you caught me. I also wish I was shagging the neighbour whilst also trawling dating apps for 20 something sex obsessed men. It sounds so… exotic.

GameOfJones · 05/06/2024 22:28

The apps are full of young blokes trawling older women’s profiles wanting to tick the MILF box and laughing about it to their mates down the pub.

Spot on. I know a lot of early 20s lads and he's looking for something to tick off his list and have a laugh about with his friends while he regales them with all the details. He'll have already shown them your picture and they'll have been laughing at him/teasing him/egging him on.

If you're ok knowing that you're just a meaningless shag and a bit of a laugh for him, crack on. It sounds like it's meaningless for you too. But I wouldn't want to be laughed at.

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:30

Or he just likes having sex with older women, @LostTheMarble ?

Sauvblanctime · 05/06/2024 22:31

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

Nahhh go for it

DAZZlanch · 05/06/2024 22:32

Creepy. It just feels like an abuse of power when the age and stage difference is that huge. If he does have an older woman fetish, I’d assume that’s because of some kind of vulnerability within him. You shouldn’t be taking advantage of that.

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 05/06/2024 22:34

AllyCart · 05/06/2024 19:02

Fuck, shag or have sex with.

How fucking twee is "sleep with" ? 🙄

‘Sleep with’ isn’t twee at all you complete weirdo 😂

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 22:35

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 22:30

Or he just likes having sex with older women, @LostTheMarble ?

Why specifically older women? For it to be noticeable older, a generational (at least one) gap and for that to be a fetish for a man, of course it’s a red flag. It’s always concerning when a man has a specific sexual want outside of the typical. Usually it’s because he’s the type that sees women as walking sex toys rather than actual people.

SamW98 · 05/06/2024 22:35

GameOfJones · 05/06/2024 22:28

The apps are full of young blokes trawling older women’s profiles wanting to tick the MILF box and laughing about it to their mates down the pub.

Spot on. I know a lot of early 20s lads and he's looking for something to tick off his list and have a laugh about with his friends while he regales them with all the details. He'll have already shown them your picture and they'll have been laughing at him/teasing him/egging him on.

If you're ok knowing that you're just a meaningless shag and a bit of a laugh for him, crack on. It sounds like it's meaningless for you too. But I wouldn't want to be laughed at.

I’ve done the apps and at 55 I’ve been inundated with horny 20 somethings messaging asking if I’m interested in younger men - usually telling me such charming chat up lines as the size of their dick. I roll my eyes and delete - not interested in being a box tick and a bar anecdote about who shagged the oldest MILF.