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To sleep with a 23 year old?

672 replies

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

OP posts:
ThreeAmingos · 10/06/2024 20:08

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos oh come on. So pp (16 year old) is old enough to know what she's doing because of the age of consent

But she deserves a pasting because 23 year olds can't properly consent?

Come on guys. And we don't know the circumstances of pp's pregnancy at 16. Wrong to bring that up as a point in a debate.

LoveLifeBeHappy · 10/06/2024 21:45

MrsSlocombesCat · 10/06/2024 14:42

He's 19 years younger than you. When I was 42 my oldest son was 26. My second oldest was 22. So, no. Yuk.

Some people would consider you having a 26 year old son when you’re 42 yuk.

LoveLifeBeHappy · 10/06/2024 21:47

Lavagirl · 10/06/2024 13:39

So many assumptions and generalisations here, it's absolutely depressing. A woman can't be found attractive in her 40s by someone younger, and if they are it's a 'fetish', you'll need lube, a younger man will be shit in bed, an age gap will mean that there's no connection or common ground.... WOW.
My own recent, ongoing experience of sleeping with someone aged 23, as a 47 year old, has been nothing but positive, sexy, fulfilling, joyful. Without any qualms whatsoever I'd encourage people to move away from their fixation on what's 'appropriate' or 'creepy' and do whatever they want, assuming it's with consent ofc.

This. 👏

I was that young adult in my 20s with an older women. It was some of my best years.

LoveLifeBeHappy · 10/06/2024 21:51

Divasaurus · 10/06/2024 17:50

You were a mum at 16 (legally still a child)? How old was the father of your son? And you are passing judgment on a fully grown adult having sex with another fully grown adult? Have a word with yourself.

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This.

ThreeAmingos · 10/06/2024 21:53

Some people would consider you having a 26 year old son when you’re 42 yuk.

There are other people who've called it yuck. Some of you need to rein it in with the rude comments towards someone who had a child at 16 ffs. Don't be nasty.

LoveLifeBeHappy · 10/06/2024 22:01

ThreeAmingos · 10/06/2024 21:53

Some people would consider you having a 26 year old son when you’re 42 yuk.

There are other people who've called it yuck. Some of you need to rein it in with the rude comments towards someone who had a child at 16 ffs. Don't be nasty.

If she can pass judgement on others, you need to be able to receive it too.

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 10/06/2024 22:23

Depends how much you are paying him 🤣

LazyGewl · 10/06/2024 22:54

I wouldn’t do it. But I can’t tell you what to do. You should really trust yourself and follow your instincts.

Firefly1987 · 11/06/2024 00:25

MrsSlocombesCat · 10/06/2024 14:42

He's 19 years younger than you. When I was 42 my oldest son was 26. My second oldest was 22. So, no. Yuk.

And your own parents were thrilled when you told them you were pregnant with your first at what 16? Most of us don't aspire to have two children by age 20. The stigma of teen pregnancies has mostly gone and there is no judgement on mumsnet for it (which is a good thing) but yet SO much judgement for age gaps. At least he's not 23 trying to support two kids already with a similar age girlfriend, is that what you'd prefer for your children?

StarlightLady · 11/06/2024 03:54

Is he 24 yet 😀?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:00

ThreeAmingos · 10/06/2024 20:08

@IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos oh come on. So pp (16 year old) is old enough to know what she's doing because of the age of consent

But she deserves a pasting because 23 year olds can't properly consent?

Come on guys. And we don't know the circumstances of pp's pregnancy at 16. Wrong to bring that up as a point in a debate.

No. She deserves a pasting because she's calling someone else's decisions "yuk". Like I said, everyone makes a lot of decisions across their lives and not all of them are going to be good. Because we're human. So no judgement of other people unless you want judgement of yours.

Editing to add that I also believe a 23 year old can make their own decisions. I was living with my now DH by 23, and made the decisions that got me there (including sleeping with an older man) entirely by myself.

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:11

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:00

No. She deserves a pasting because she's calling someone else's decisions "yuk". Like I said, everyone makes a lot of decisions across their lives and not all of them are going to be good. Because we're human. So no judgement of other people unless you want judgement of yours.

Editing to add that I also believe a 23 year old can make their own decisions. I was living with my now DH by 23, and made the decisions that got me there (including sleeping with an older man) entirely by myself.

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It's a bit grim to judge someone who made bad decisions at 16 when they're young and immature to grown adults though imo.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:14

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:11

It's a bit grim to judge someone who made bad decisions at 16 when they're young and immature to grown adults though imo.

IMO it's just grim to judge anyone's actions, providing what they're doing isn't actually hurting anyone.

I don't aspire to a life like the PP who called OP yuk. I also don't want to sleep with someone 19 years younger than me. But these are choices other people have made and don't affect my life. So calling it "yuk" is immature and judgemental and not on.

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:28

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:14

IMO it's just grim to judge anyone's actions, providing what they're doing isn't actually hurting anyone.

I don't aspire to a life like the PP who called OP yuk. I also don't want to sleep with someone 19 years younger than me. But these are choices other people have made and don't affect my life. So calling it "yuk" is immature and judgemental and not on.

I agree that calling it "yuk" is immature but so is thinking that a 16 year old child and a 42 year old have the same level of decision making capacities and using that as a counter attack to the poster.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:52

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:28

I agree that calling it "yuk" is immature but so is thinking that a 16 year old child and a 42 year old have the same level of decision making capacities and using that as a counter attack to the poster.

But the 16 year old child is now an adult and using the fact that the child she had at 16 is now also an adult as an argument herself.

I'm not coming on here and saying "at 16 I did X so therefore you're making a disgusting decision to Y now". And if I did, people would respond to me.

They are using it to judge other people, and therefore they need to be prepared for people to also have an option on that. Or, not use it to judge other people.

It's not what she did that I am questioning. It's the fact she's using it as a stick to beat someone else and yet you feel she's the victim?

S0livagant · 11/06/2024 06:55

At least he's not 23 trying to support two kids already with a similar age girlfriend, is that what you'd prefer for your children?i

I'd much rather my child was in a committed, loving relationship with a young family in their twenties than having casual sex with men or women my age.

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:59

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 06:52

But the 16 year old child is now an adult and using the fact that the child she had at 16 is now also an adult as an argument herself.

I'm not coming on here and saying "at 16 I did X so therefore you're making a disgusting decision to Y now". And if I did, people would respond to me.

They are using it to judge other people, and therefore they need to be prepared for people to also have an option on that. Or, not use it to judge other people.

It's not what she did that I am questioning. It's the fact she's using it as a stick to beat someone else and yet you feel she's the victim?

People will judge you no matter what, this idea of never judging anyone is silly, it's not how the world works. I was also a teen mum, I'm not particularly bothered if people judge that. I just don't get why people get so annoyed at someone not agreeing with their choices.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 11/06/2024 07:07

Beezknees · 11/06/2024 06:59

People will judge you no matter what, this idea of never judging anyone is silly, it's not how the world works. I was also a teen mum, I'm not particularly bothered if people judge that. I just don't get why people get so annoyed at someone not agreeing with their choices.

I don't agree with most choices people make, but it's more of a "I wouldn't do that" kind of thing. I very much think that you should do you, as long as you aren't hurting anyone.

But something that does hurt people is others calling them names, or telling them that their choices are wrong or disgusting, simply because they wouldn't have made it.

If you want to have a family young, fine, go for it. There is options available if it's unplanned and not what you want.

If you want to remain child free your entire life, fine, go for it.

If you want to sleep with another adult who also wants to sleep with you, you're both free to do so and consent to whatever, fine, go for it.

If you want to have a relationship with someone decades older than you and you're both entering into it with consent, fine, go for it.

You want to have a career, fine, go for it. SAHM, fine, go for it. Both? Fine, go for it.

Want to use your choices to beat someone else down? Not fine, back off.

ThreeAmingos · 11/06/2024 09:15

But she didn't state the fact that she was 16 as a point in the debate, she just mentioned her and her son's age. Someone then took it upon themselves to calculate the age and beat Pp with it.

The reason you don't judge teen mums is because you have no idea how she pregnant. Was she exploited by an older man? Or a boy her age? Did she have access to abortion or did her family stop it? Did she have mental health problems?

Someone saying yuck isn't that deep. I'm don't agree but it's not ok to attack teenage mum who were vulnerable teenagers

ThreeAmingos · 11/06/2024 09:17

Also not forgetting that birthing at 16 does not mean conception at 16. It's not ok to get personal.

DCPRINCE69 · 11/06/2024 10:09

Skybluepinky · 10/06/2024 09:42

Creepy.

Why creepy?? Because I found someone who loves me and I love back unconditionally???

LordPercyPercy · 11/06/2024 10:10

But she didn't state the fact that she was 16 as a point in the debate, she just mentioned her and her son's age. Someone then took it upon themselves to calculate the age and beat Pp with it.

It hardly took a genius to spot what age she'd have been. And she used the fact of her own and her son's ages to judge the OP.

DCPRINCE69 · 11/06/2024 10:13

ThreeAmingos · 11/06/2024 09:15

But she didn't state the fact that she was 16 as a point in the debate, she just mentioned her and her son's age. Someone then took it upon themselves to calculate the age and beat Pp with it.

The reason you don't judge teen mums is because you have no idea how she pregnant. Was she exploited by an older man? Or a boy her age? Did she have access to abortion or did her family stop it? Did she have mental health problems?

Someone saying yuck isn't that deep. I'm don't agree but it's not ok to attack teenage mum who were vulnerable teenagers

But the point raised there is that she is in no position to judge another's choices given her own past. She let herself be judged by willingly giving up that information. I guess my point here is, " people who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones!!"

DCPRINCE69 · 11/06/2024 10:21

Beezknees · 10/06/2024 18:28

If she was with an older man then she was groomed. Not her fault.

I doubt it as she willingly gave up that nugget of information. Why would you instantly assume the worst of men?

LoveLifeBeHappy · 11/06/2024 10:35

ThreeAmingos · 11/06/2024 09:15

But she didn't state the fact that she was 16 as a point in the debate, she just mentioned her and her son's age. Someone then took it upon themselves to calculate the age and beat Pp with it.

The reason you don't judge teen mums is because you have no idea how she pregnant. Was she exploited by an older man? Or a boy her age? Did she have access to abortion or did her family stop it? Did she have mental health problems?

Someone saying yuck isn't that deep. I'm don't agree but it's not ok to attack teenage mum who were vulnerable teenagers

The issue is that she's being judgmental about the OP saying what she's doing is "yuk." But if you make that kind of statement, you have to expect a similar reaction back. It's as simple as that.