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AIBU to not let SIL make wedding speech?

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Dontknowwhattodooooo · 03/06/2024 10:36

Hi guys abit of a long one sorry in advance!

Me and DP have been together for 12 years, we are getting married in a few weeks. Dp has a younger sister who has very severe mental health problems. She has spent the last 5 years in and out of inpatient mental health facility’s. She is doing well now but needs carers everyday. For weekdays she has carers come to her then at the weekend Dp mostly looks after her apart from the odd days when I will go to help her for the day. Her and DP are very close due to this and also they grew up in the care system so he always looked out for her since they was kids.

Now SIL is genuinely lovely but due to her mental health conditions she is very unpredictable, she has extreme paranoia about people looking at her and laughing at her, she also hears voices so sometimes she believes she can hear people’s thoughts. Her mood can change with no warning from “normal” to extreme anger or depression or she can also become manic. If she has these outbursts she can become violent or put her self in danger or harm herself on purpose. She also has panic attacks and flashbacks which can cause her to have a seizures. Being under stress or feeling anxious can trigger these outbursts and make them worse and it’s very hard to calm her down in especially in public.

this brings me to my problem. At the wedding my mum and my dad both want to give a speech to which we said ok fine no problem. DP then said he doesn’t have any one speaking from his side can SIL do it for him. The problem is SIL is also severely dyslexic so she is not the best at reading so wouldn’t be able to read a speech from anything, she also wouldn’t be able to remember a whole speech. I told DP I don’t think it’s fair to SIL to give the speech due to she would have to make it up on the spot which she wouldn’t be good at as she already struggles to get her words out in the right order sometimes. This would probably cause her to feel embarrassed which in turn would make her anxious and she would most probably end up either having a panic attack or she would think people are laughing at her which would cause her to become angry. She also will randomly stop talking sometimes and talk back to the voices she can hear so I don’t want people at the wedding to see her doing this as this would probably embarrass her too. DP blew up at me and said she’s his sister and if I’m so embarrassed of her then maybe we shouldn’t have a wedding at all because these things could all happen even if she doesn’t give the speech. He also said I clearly just don’t like SIL because she has mental health issues and I want people to think my family is perfect with no issues.

Im genuinely at a lost because I don’t think it’s fair to put her through unnecessary stress but Dp thinks I’m just embarrassed of her which is not the case I love her like my own sisters I’m just trying to look out for her. I’ve already made exceptions for her at the wedding to make her as relaxed as possible like making her a special role as “brides helper” so she gets to wear the bridesmaids dress but doesn’t have to walk down the aisle with us and she is going to sit at the back so if she needs to leave she can leave easily. She is also going to be sitting at a table with just her and my DD and DS as she is very relaxed around them and that way she will be not around a lot of people.

so AIBU to not let her give the speech?

OP posts:
Treelichen · 03/06/2024 10:49

It sounds like too much pressure for her speeches are the dullest part of a wedding and I’d not be wanting to have more than the standard anyway so they can just be out of the way.

ForensicFlossy · 03/06/2024 10:53

Does his ds actually want to give a speech? Has anyone asked her?

Fabellini · 03/06/2024 10:54

Your dp isn’t thinking clearly about what would be best for his sister, but I can understand him feeling the wedding is seeming to lean more heavily towards your side of the family.
I don’t think it’s usual for both of the brides parents to make a speech, for example.
Would your soon to be sister in law manage to maybe make a toast after the speeches?
Perhaps just “and if we could all now be upstanding and raise our glasses to the bride and groom” or something?

squashyhat · 03/06/2024 10:54

I don't think it's your place to 'not let her' do anything. Has anyone asked her if she wants to do it?

ZekeZeke · 03/06/2024 10:55

I totally understand where you are coming from, it's in his sisters best interest to have as least pressure as possible to avoid any anxiety related issues.
However, it's his sister. He has nobody from his side. If this is what he wants I would go along with it. It sounds like he is projecting and stressed and looking for a reason to have an argument.

LongIslander · 03/06/2024 10:55

ForensicFlossy · 03/06/2024 10:53

Does his ds actually want to give a speech? Has anyone asked her?

Yes, this is key, I think. It seems unlikely on the face f it that someone who would find it too stressful to walk up the aisle as a bridesmaid is likely to want to make a speech she's going to have to extemporise on the spot...?

Benjaminsniddlegrass · 03/06/2024 10:55

Is there anyway she could maybe do a pre-recorded speech or something that means there isn't pressure on the day but she can say what she wants about her brother? My little brother made a wonderful video of my best friends all sharing their thoughts which was shared on the wedding day as none of them wanted to give an actual speech.

Ted27 · 03/06/2024 10:56

@Dontknowwhattodooooo

Has your DP actually asked her if she wants to do it?
Personally I would say as the best man gives a speech that's 'his side'

It does sound like she would get overwhelmed - would a compromise be to record/film her saying a few words and playing that?

RedHelenB · 03/06/2024 10:57

squashyhat · 03/06/2024 10:54

I don't think it's your place to 'not let her' do anything. Has anyone asked her if she wants to do it?

This. Leave it loose, if she wants to give a toast or whatever fine, if not no harm done.

fatphalange · 03/06/2024 10:58

Terrible idea for all the reasons you've stated. Protecting her from doing this would be an extension of the caring role she requires every day from a decision making point of view. I would point this out to your fiancé.

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 03/06/2024 10:59

Why don't both you and dp do the speeches instead? That's what we did and it worked well.

BlossomValley · 03/06/2024 11:00

squashyhat · 03/06/2024 10:54

I don't think it's your place to 'not let her' do anything. Has anyone asked her if she wants to do it?

It’s her wedding!!!

GentlemanJohnny · 03/06/2024 11:00

Strikes me as a God-given opportunity to say "No speeches!"

Always the dullest part of a wedding. They go on for far too long and are nowhere near as entertaining as the speaker thinks they are.

GreenFairies · 03/06/2024 11:01

BlossomValley · 03/06/2024 11:00

It’s her wedding!!!

It’s his wedding too…

DahliaSmith · 03/06/2024 11:02

I can see where you're coming from and nobody wants a car crash section at their wedding, but you need to let go of the responsiblity to let her or not let her make a speech. This is for DP to sort out. She is who she is, she's his only family and if this is what he wants then he needs to work it out and you need to go with it I think.

MrsTomRipley · 03/06/2024 11:04

I don't know why both your parents are doing speeches, that isn't normal, maybe that's making your DP feel your family is having a bigger role.
I'm with GentlemanJohnny - say no to speeches, your guests will than you

Longdueachange · 03/06/2024 11:04

Why do so many people need to give a speech? It's normal for the father of the bride (or mother of the bride) to speak on behalf of their family, the groom or bride to speak on behalf of the married couple, and the best man to dish the dirt. The American way of everyone wanting their voice heard is a bit self indulgent and unnecessary. Leave this one to tradition!

Dontknowwhattodooooo · 03/06/2024 11:04

squashyhat · 03/06/2024 10:54

I don't think it's your place to 'not let her' do anything. Has anyone asked her if she wants to do it?

This is the thing, no one has asked her yet but she’s very anxious to say no to people when they ask her things so she will just agree to do anything to make other people happy even if she doesn’t want to do it herself. For example at first she was going to be a bridesmaid but when we was all trying the dresses on together she literally had a panic attack saying everyone will be staring at her, she’s too scared she only agreed to make me happy Which is why I changed her role to “brides helper”

OP posts:
Anonymouseposter · 03/06/2024 11:04

Traditionally the bride’s father (in your case parents) and the best man give the speeches. Has he got a good friend male or female who could do it? It sounds a lot for his sister and I understand that you would be worried about it. Do you think she would want to make a speech?

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 03/06/2024 11:05

If your fiancé is prepared to take full responsibility for what she says/does re the speech then I think you should let him get on with it. The toast idea is an excellent compromise, but if that's not enough... Although you understandably want to have control over every aspect of your special day and make sure it's perfect, sometimes you have to relinquish responsibility to someone else.
You've still got a few weeks. Gently sound her out. Is this his idea or hers? Does she understand what's involved? See what she says. It sounds as if you've already done a really good job of involving her in a way she can manage. It'll be fine! Xx

itsmylife7 · 03/06/2024 11:06

You're soon to be husband is being ridiculous.

Unless you've been around people who "talk to their voices " it's very unnerving.

Part of me thinks ok let her do it, and when it goes completely wrong (very high chance) you can say "told you so "

Octavia64 · 03/06/2024 11:06

Sounds like he is upset because you've unbalanced it by two people on your side giving speeches.

In general the guests at weddings hate speeches so the fewer people the better.

He may well be feeling upset that your family is taking so big a role and that may trigger feelings of upset that he doesn't have a family to take a role with him.

I'd tread carefully if I was you.

easilydistracted1 · 03/06/2024 11:07

I can see where you are both coming from. Does he not have a best man's speech? If so then to balance it I think your mum and dad should do a joint speech. That's what my in laws did and my best woman did a speech. If she does want to speak could she either do a pre recorded speech on a good day and share it on a projector or do a reading of a meaningful poem or verse? I know my sister who has similar problems would have really struggled if asked to do anything like that?

unbelieveable22 · 03/06/2024 11:08

No speeches is the answer. DP must feel with both your parents (OTT) doing one each it will appear unbalanced if he has no one from his side.
Speeches by and large go on too long and are unnecessary.

MuggleMe · 03/06/2024 11:08

Could she pre record it in advance? I know it's a hassle to get the tech set up to play it, but will mean DH gets someone from his side.

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