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AIBU to not let SIL make wedding speech?

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Dontknowwhattodooooo · 03/06/2024 10:36

Hi guys abit of a long one sorry in advance!

Me and DP have been together for 12 years, we are getting married in a few weeks. Dp has a younger sister who has very severe mental health problems. She has spent the last 5 years in and out of inpatient mental health facility’s. She is doing well now but needs carers everyday. For weekdays she has carers come to her then at the weekend Dp mostly looks after her apart from the odd days when I will go to help her for the day. Her and DP are very close due to this and also they grew up in the care system so he always looked out for her since they was kids.

Now SIL is genuinely lovely but due to her mental health conditions she is very unpredictable, she has extreme paranoia about people looking at her and laughing at her, she also hears voices so sometimes she believes she can hear people’s thoughts. Her mood can change with no warning from “normal” to extreme anger or depression or she can also become manic. If she has these outbursts she can become violent or put her self in danger or harm herself on purpose. She also has panic attacks and flashbacks which can cause her to have a seizures. Being under stress or feeling anxious can trigger these outbursts and make them worse and it’s very hard to calm her down in especially in public.

this brings me to my problem. At the wedding my mum and my dad both want to give a speech to which we said ok fine no problem. DP then said he doesn’t have any one speaking from his side can SIL do it for him. The problem is SIL is also severely dyslexic so she is not the best at reading so wouldn’t be able to read a speech from anything, she also wouldn’t be able to remember a whole speech. I told DP I don’t think it’s fair to SIL to give the speech due to she would have to make it up on the spot which she wouldn’t be good at as she already struggles to get her words out in the right order sometimes. This would probably cause her to feel embarrassed which in turn would make her anxious and she would most probably end up either having a panic attack or she would think people are laughing at her which would cause her to become angry. She also will randomly stop talking sometimes and talk back to the voices she can hear so I don’t want people at the wedding to see her doing this as this would probably embarrass her too. DP blew up at me and said she’s his sister and if I’m so embarrassed of her then maybe we shouldn’t have a wedding at all because these things could all happen even if she doesn’t give the speech. He also said I clearly just don’t like SIL because she has mental health issues and I want people to think my family is perfect with no issues.

Im genuinely at a lost because I don’t think it’s fair to put her through unnecessary stress but Dp thinks I’m just embarrassed of her which is not the case I love her like my own sisters I’m just trying to look out for her. I’ve already made exceptions for her at the wedding to make her as relaxed as possible like making her a special role as “brides helper” so she gets to wear the bridesmaids dress but doesn’t have to walk down the aisle with us and she is going to sit at the back so if she needs to leave she can leave easily. She is also going to be sitting at a table with just her and my DD and DS as she is very relaxed around them and that way she will be not around a lot of people.

so AIBU to not let her give the speech?

OP posts:
GreenFairies · 03/06/2024 11:09

Why is your mum giving a speech? It’s traditional for father of the bride, best man, and groom. I can see why having both your parents give a speech makes him feel like it’s imbalanced.

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2024 11:09

Yanbu- could you and your dp both get up and stand with your sil during the speech moment? Or could your dp stand up whilst you and sil sit together. Your dp could speak on her behalf. He could say how much you both love and value your sil as your family. Thank everyone for being at the wedding and ask them all to applaud her. If she says anything unwanted or behaves in a way controlled by her mh issues just continue with the speech. Everyone will understand and support her and you and dp.

ButterCrackers · 03/06/2024 11:10

MuggleMe · 03/06/2024 11:08

Could she pre record it in advance? I know it's a hassle to get the tech set up to play it, but will mean DH gets someone from his side.

That’s a great idea.

Ilovemyshed · 03/06/2024 11:11

I would have a blanket no live speeches and have a pre-recorded, pre-edited video montage with lots of friends and family sharing a special memory or comment and play it on the day.

Gives you an opportunity to maybe include people who cannot attend, allows your family its voice, plus inclusive of SIL as she can record and edit.

I would explain to your parents why you are doing this and hope they would understand/ be supportive.

DahliaSmith · 03/06/2024 11:11

How about either your dad or your mum gives a speech, and he asks a good friend of his to do it instead of his sister? If it's not her idea and she says yes to anything for fear of causing offence, him asking her to do it seems a little bit unneccesary.

Even people who don't mind doing speeches, don't really enjoy doing wedding speeches, they're an endurance test for most people, both sides of the microphone.

TemuSpecialBuy · 03/06/2024 11:12

Two speeches

Your DP does a speech himself

your mum OR your dad do one

martinisforeveryone · 03/06/2024 11:12

I agree @easilydistracted1 a joint parent speech, a best man, or other friend of DP’s and a pre recorded something from sil.

You, as in both of you, could be very laid back and say it’s not all decided yet, but to let you know what she’d like to do, if anything. Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight, it’s not compulsory, without having the difficulties she faces. My DH didn’t want to make a speech at our daughter’s wedding, so he didn’t.

BuyOrBake · 03/06/2024 11:13

I think that the root of this is that you have both parents giving speeches (which seems OTT) and looks very insensetive to your DH who grew up in care!!!

I don't think you are wrong in thinking this could be a bit too much for SIL .......is there any other person close to DH .....or could SIL record a toast.

Perhaps no speeches would be a better option?

LeahMoo · 03/06/2024 11:13

I think its up to her and your DH. It's not your decision. But if it's too much for her I'm sure she could be taken out of the situation, or pre record something so she's not doing it live on the day. I think YABU to just simply shut it down.

SpringerFall · 03/06/2024 11:14

Yes I would let her you have no real reason not too

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 11:18

He knows his own sister.

His sister knows her own self.

I'd leave them both to it. If it works it works and if it doesn't, she'll have him there for support and to calm her down.

If you really don't want her giving a speech, explain why to your parents and ask them not to give one either.

Peclet · 03/06/2024 11:20

I think if she wanted to a short toast would be appropriate, I do also like the idea of a video montage of pre recorded messages and some pictures thrown in as well. Your dad could stand up and introduce the montage and say a few words, and if your SIL wanted to she could stand at the end and say a simple toast to you both. And is she doesn't want to a short shake of the head would be enough for the best man to stand up and do it?

It should be your mum or dad not both. I agree with the PP that said it is a bit insensitive.

There are lots of alternatives.

How old are her children?

My dad grew up in care and he stood up to make a speech, couldn't do it and so my husband stood next to him and raised a toast to my dad instead and "saved" it.

Bumblebeeinatree · 03/06/2024 11:26

It's between him and his sister, having given your opinion that it might be too much for her, back off. Maybe suggest to your DP that he might want a back up plan if she can't cope at the last minute and then stay out of it. The implication that his sister shouldn't do it has touched a raw nerve.

MitskiMoo · 03/06/2024 11:27

Best man and your dad to give speeches only. No one enjoys sitting through much more than that . I'd get one of them to read a dictated message from his sister. Why he would want to put her through this is beyond me.

steppemum · 03/06/2024 11:29

Benjaminsniddlegrass · 03/06/2024 10:55

Is there anyway she could maybe do a pre-recorded speech or something that means there isn't pressure on the day but she can say what she wants about her brother? My little brother made a wonderful video of my best friends all sharing their thoughts which was shared on the wedding day as none of them wanted to give an actual speech.

I think this is a great idea. You can edit it too, so if she has a panic, she can stop recording and finish it later.

Then get someone from dh side (cousin, friend etc) to do a toast on the day

traditionally the speeches are
best man
brides father
groom (which is really thank yous)

I assume he is havign a best man?

Upminster12 · 03/06/2024 11:31

YANBU but I really feel for your fiance. A wedding with all your loving family present and involved must be very painful and triggering for him. I imagine it's brought a lot to the surface. Perhaps dial it all back a notch - one speech from your family?

Recorded message is a great idea too.

Sunnyjac · 03/06/2024 11:35

Could she just give one fun anecdote about her brother and then do the toast?

Autumn1990 · 03/06/2024 11:39

Either pre record all the speeches or she does the toast or no speeches.
I would cut the speeches down to one from each side only

Equivo · 03/06/2024 11:40

Is he having a best man? Traditionally no family members from the grooms side speak so noone will think anything of it if he doesn't.

It sounds like this is way too much to ask of her. Can she contribute some stories to the best mans speech or something - and the best man speaks 'on behalf of' her and himself?

I'd try to split the time evenly so each of your parents gets half as much time as the best man gets for their speech.

MsLuxLisbon · 03/06/2024 11:42

squashyhat · 03/06/2024 10:54

I don't think it's your place to 'not let her' do anything. Has anyone asked her if she wants to do it?

I mean, it sort of is. It's her wedding as well as her DPs.

Iloveacurry · 03/06/2024 11:42

Has anyone actually asked your SIL if she wants to make a speech?

Also has your DP got a best man and are they doing a speech?

Ozanj · 03/06/2024 11:44

Drop all the formal speeches.

LoobyDop · 03/06/2024 11:44

You’re right, but you need to compromise by not having your parents make speeches. Take them out of the family sphere altogether, just have the two of you make them instead.

Eyesopenwideawake · 03/06/2024 11:46

She doesn't need to do a speech - a simple "I'm so happy for my brother and OP" is short and sweet and will be appreciated by everyone.

hydriotaphia · 03/06/2024 11:51

Sorry, but I think it is pretty reprehensible to prevent your DH having a speech by a family member just because that family member is ill/disabled. It's not really your call to make as to whether she can 'handle' it - that would be her decision.