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AIBU to not let SIL make wedding speech?

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Dontknowwhattodooooo · 03/06/2024 10:36

Hi guys abit of a long one sorry in advance!

Me and DP have been together for 12 years, we are getting married in a few weeks. Dp has a younger sister who has very severe mental health problems. She has spent the last 5 years in and out of inpatient mental health facility’s. She is doing well now but needs carers everyday. For weekdays she has carers come to her then at the weekend Dp mostly looks after her apart from the odd days when I will go to help her for the day. Her and DP are very close due to this and also they grew up in the care system so he always looked out for her since they was kids.

Now SIL is genuinely lovely but due to her mental health conditions she is very unpredictable, she has extreme paranoia about people looking at her and laughing at her, she also hears voices so sometimes she believes she can hear people’s thoughts. Her mood can change with no warning from “normal” to extreme anger or depression or she can also become manic. If she has these outbursts she can become violent or put her self in danger or harm herself on purpose. She also has panic attacks and flashbacks which can cause her to have a seizures. Being under stress or feeling anxious can trigger these outbursts and make them worse and it’s very hard to calm her down in especially in public.

this brings me to my problem. At the wedding my mum and my dad both want to give a speech to which we said ok fine no problem. DP then said he doesn’t have any one speaking from his side can SIL do it for him. The problem is SIL is also severely dyslexic so she is not the best at reading so wouldn’t be able to read a speech from anything, she also wouldn’t be able to remember a whole speech. I told DP I don’t think it’s fair to SIL to give the speech due to she would have to make it up on the spot which she wouldn’t be good at as she already struggles to get her words out in the right order sometimes. This would probably cause her to feel embarrassed which in turn would make her anxious and she would most probably end up either having a panic attack or she would think people are laughing at her which would cause her to become angry. She also will randomly stop talking sometimes and talk back to the voices she can hear so I don’t want people at the wedding to see her doing this as this would probably embarrass her too. DP blew up at me and said she’s his sister and if I’m so embarrassed of her then maybe we shouldn’t have a wedding at all because these things could all happen even if she doesn’t give the speech. He also said I clearly just don’t like SIL because she has mental health issues and I want people to think my family is perfect with no issues.

Im genuinely at a lost because I don’t think it’s fair to put her through unnecessary stress but Dp thinks I’m just embarrassed of her which is not the case I love her like my own sisters I’m just trying to look out for her. I’ve already made exceptions for her at the wedding to make her as relaxed as possible like making her a special role as “brides helper” so she gets to wear the bridesmaids dress but doesn’t have to walk down the aisle with us and she is going to sit at the back so if she needs to leave she can leave easily. She is also going to be sitting at a table with just her and my DD and DS as she is very relaxed around them and that way she will be not around a lot of people.

so AIBU to not let her give the speech?

OP posts:
wearemodernidiots · 03/06/2024 16:26

Surely the sister should be ASKED if she wants to give a speech, or if she would prefer a different supportive role, because you both want her to be involved in some way.

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 03/06/2024 16:28

Could she propose a toast? With a very short introduction, with 3 key points, listed as one word on a card as her prompt.
Love My brother
Good luck Bride and Groom!
Cheers

Suncream123 · 03/06/2024 16:34

Why do your mum and dad both want to talk?

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 03/06/2024 16:34

I've never enjoyed a speech at any wedding I've been to, including my own, but if you must a video is a good idea.

I also think you should have a little more empathy for your fiancé, it must be difficult emotionally to have a wedding without parents.

TinyYellow · 03/06/2024 16:40

You can’t have a speech from each of your parents and not let your partners closest relative do the same.

I would stop with the fake concern for her, it’s obvious that this is about more than concern for her well-being so just own it. If it were only about concern for her then her brother would share it.

If you really insist on not having her, then you have to stop one of your parents making a speech. Tbh, listening to two parents each make a speech about the same adult daughter is likely to be very tedious for guests anyway.

Waffle78 · 03/06/2024 16:44

Could you or someone else a carer maybe help her write a speech. She could tell you what she wants to say and you write it down. But get someone else to read it on her behalf?

Jennyathemall · 03/06/2024 16:46

Are you being totally honest with us and yourself? Do you actually want her at the wedding or would you rather she didn’t attend given the obvious risk she poses to messing up the whole thing? It’s your day after all I dont think you would be unreasonable to not want her there (however it seems you have little choice).

Dora33 · 03/06/2024 16:46

As you and your partner have been a family unit already for a long time, I think a joint speech from you both would be much better.
Other than the best man or a bridesmaid, no need for separate ones from your parents.
Unless you both decide on the video montage which I think is a great idea and much more enjoyable and relaxing for everyone at wedding.

godmum56 · 03/06/2024 16:48

two speeches from your parents? for the love of heaven why?

JLou08 · 03/06/2024 16:55

It's DHs wedding too, I think him saying there is no one from his side to give a speech is very telling. It might be hard for him the thought of your loving parents there giving a speech when he doesn't have that.
I think your DH is also best placed to know the impact this could have on his sister. Maybe he thinks this will make it easier for her because she will be distracted giving a speech rather than seeing your DH with no one speaking for him whilst your parents speak. It could be a stark reminder of DH and sisters upbringing and bring on flashbacks.
If I was in your situation and his sister wanted to speak I would 100% let her do it.

ittakes2 · 03/06/2024 16:56

I think your husband knows his sister better than anyone and he is capable of deciding with her whether she would be ok. She might actually not want to. But quite frankly - if it does all go pears up - surely that’s a risk your husband and his sister have a right to risk it they want to? As guest at the wedding I would only feel compassion for her if things did not go to plan.

WiddlinDiddlin · 03/06/2024 17:06

I reckon I'd give her the options.

SO not 'I'd like you to give a speech'.. but:

Would you like to - pre-recorded speech - actual speech - write something for someone else to read out - nothing at all.

And make it clear you're happy with whatever option she wants to go for there.

Then I think she's much more likely to pick the one she is truly comfortable with.

Gazelda · 03/06/2024 17:06

JLou08 · 03/06/2024 16:55

It's DHs wedding too, I think him saying there is no one from his side to give a speech is very telling. It might be hard for him the thought of your loving parents there giving a speech when he doesn't have that.
I think your DH is also best placed to know the impact this could have on his sister. Maybe he thinks this will make it easier for her because she will be distracted giving a speech rather than seeing your DH with no one speaking for him whilst your parents speak. It could be a stark reminder of DH and sisters upbringing and bring on flashbacks.
If I was in your situation and his sister wanted to speak I would 100% let her do it.

I agree. It wouldn't have been intentional, but it has sort of rubbed his nose in the fact that you have family fighting to show their love for you, but he has no one other than his sister.

I completely understand your reservations, and I think you are thinking of no one other than SIL. But a compromise would be kindest to both your DF and your SIL.

A video montage or a simple toast from SIL would be a lovely moment.

I hope you have a wonderful wedding full of joy.

Hoppinggreen · 03/06/2024 17:11

One speech from each "side" is fair.
A Parent for you and Best man for him

Waffle78 · 03/06/2024 17:11

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 03/06/2024 14:27

It sounds like you are more worried that she will embarass you than you are about her. You don't "make exceptions", you include people and meet their needs. He can just ask her if she wants to do a speech or not. Have all the people saying tell her no missed the bit where he doesn't want to marry you if you exclude her? You will have a much better day, and joint life, if you drop the need to follow the usual protocol and do what works for the family.

What a horrible thing to say my neice is similar to this lady. Whenever there is an incident afterwards she feels embarrassed for months and she will go out of her way to avoid everyone there. But most those people are also her support network. So every time she has a meltdown her wold gets smaller.

Needanewname42 · 03/06/2024 17:28

I think 2 from your side and none from his is very unbalanced.

Is his best man doing a speach?

He could ask her but no pressure have a Plan B - ie one of your parents or friends could do it on her behalf.

Exactlab · 03/06/2024 17:39

You’re not being unreasonable.

How dare your fiancé speak to you like that.

Why are you marrying him? He doesn’t come from a good family and is likely carrying bad genes. He is not someone to have a life and make a family with.

Look, if he wants her to do the speech - let her. You know what’s going to happen. Let it happen. Plan for you and your friends to go out on your wedding night while he consoles his sister.

Gazelda · 03/06/2024 17:45

Exactlab · 03/06/2024 17:39

You’re not being unreasonable.

How dare your fiancé speak to you like that.

Why are you marrying him? He doesn’t come from a good family and is likely carrying bad genes. He is not someone to have a life and make a family with.

Look, if he wants her to do the speech - let her. You know what’s going to happen. Let it happen. Plan for you and your friends to go out on your wedding night while he consoles his sister.

You should be ashamed of yourself for this post. Incredibly unpleasant.

Actually, I suspect you're trying to goad. Shameful.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 03/06/2024 18:07

Exactlab · 03/06/2024 17:39

You’re not being unreasonable.

How dare your fiancé speak to you like that.

Why are you marrying him? He doesn’t come from a good family and is likely carrying bad genes. He is not someone to have a life and make a family with.

Look, if he wants her to do the speech - let her. You know what’s going to happen. Let it happen. Plan for you and your friends to go out on your wedding night while he consoles his sister.

Wow!! What a fabulous start to a marriage that would be. I assume you've never found someone you love to share your life with. Almost every line of that post is offensive. And I'm not easily offended.

newbeggins · 03/06/2024 18:18

If you don't want SIL then it's no speeches.

Ted27 · 03/06/2024 18:33

@Exactlab

What an utterly despicable thing to say, you should be ashamed of yourself

TravelInsuranceQ · 03/06/2024 18:35

Why not dispense with the actual speeches and get them all to video them in advance? Then you can trim them down so people don't get bored !!

Mouswife · 03/06/2024 18:47

One parent and the best man. One on each side. No need for others

DaughterNo2 · 03/06/2024 18:52

Thornberry1 · 03/06/2024 15:58

How about a short reading? Lovely way for her to be involved but much less pressure than a speech. Maybe a short / poem style one that's easy to read or remember - then if she feels good after that she could add a toast on the end.

Exactly what I was about to say

Partyowl21 · 03/06/2024 19:15

I like the suggestion earlier about pre record it, make it a bit special maybe similar to those ones you see on Internet. Maybe she does something then wham it's her on a screen could even show it if she out the room if she prefers, fancy background etc

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