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Creepy neighbour - thoughts!?

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Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 07:13

Hello! I had a strange encounter with a neighbour last week which made me feel very uncomfortable. I’m sure I’m right, but my mind will always minimise things/mitigate for people so I wanted to run the situation past others and see if your thoughts support mine!

Thursday, 1pm there’s a knock on my door, I don’t answer, they knock again, this time louder. I look out the window and see that it’s a fairly new neighbour who I’ve only met once or twice in passing and never really spoken to. He lives with his girlfriend and his child. I open the door and he says he’s sorry to bother me but do I have any sugar, he’s run out and really needs a coffee. I laugh and say “are you serious” because it seemed cliche. He says yes so I say ok sure and turn to go into the house and grab him some, except he follows me in and into my kitchen. He had brought a coffee with him and then helped himself opening drawers to find himself a spoon. He then said how it’s cool that we both work from home, what time do I have my lunches usually, suggesting essentially that we could have lunches at the same time. He told me he likes to draw and saw some of my artwork, then suggested we should do some drawing together sometime. All questions after this were the type that enabled him to get close and have physical contact - I like your rings, folllowed by holding my hand and leaning in close to look at them, I like your tattoos, followed by holding my wrist and arm and running his hand over them, what size are your ears stretched to, can I have a look, followed by moving in to look closely at my ears. After a while I said sorry you need to go, I have work to do, do you want to take some sugar with you - he said no that’s fine I’ll go to the shop later - the shop which is less than a minutes walk from his house. I thought the whole thing was weird but gave him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he is very over-familiar and lacking in self-awareness, and maybe he genuinely needed some sugar.

3pm - there’s a knock at the door again, and it’s him again. I go down there, he says sorry can I grab some more sugar, I say fine and again he follows me into the house, again helping himself to a spoon. The front door has been left open, I say I need to make sure my cat hasn’t run out and he tells me I can close the door. I do this so my cat doesn’t run out and then immediately start heaping sugar into a bowl so he can take it and just get out, in the middle of doing this he says hey can I look at your tattoo again and takes hold of my wrist, runs his hand over the tattoo again and slowly up my forearm. At this point I am kind of in a corner and I panic, pull away and say I really need to get on so here’s your sugar. I then march quickly to the front door to get it open and on the way out, he says by the way - you don’t need to tell your partner I came round. I say he already knows you’ve been here.

This is all really creepy, right!?

So I tell my partner all of this and how uncomfortable I felt and he’s furious. The next day, he sees my neighbour’s partner in the street and asks her for a word, says her boyfriend made me feel very uncomfortable in our house yesterday and can we have our sugar pot back. She is baffled - why was he in our house and why does he have our pot. He explains, she goes into their house and 20 minutes later, they are both on the doorstep and he is very politely apologising for making me feel uncomfortable and asking me to explain what he did that made me feel that way. This gets my back up straight away because he knows full well, and I tell him so. He denies saying that I didn’t need to tell my partner and tells me I’m overreacting. I tell him he’s gaslighting me, and that he’s a creep. I then ask his girlfriend if they had sugar at home yesterday - she tells me yes, they did. I tell him I have no idea what his intentions were but they did not originate in a place of honesty, he had sugar at home, an open door is not an invitation in, and his behaviour in my house/towards me was unnerving. I apologised to his partner because it can’t have been nice having someone stand there and call their fella a creep.

I’m right, right!!? I’m sure I am, but I’m such an overthinker, I’m overthinking myself into thinking I’ve gone overboard..

OP posts:
TomeTome · 21/05/2024 07:16

Don’t be ridiculous, you all know what happened. Don’t ever be alone with him again.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 21/05/2024 07:17

Ym this is VERY odd behaviour on his part. You did absolutely the right thing and I am really glad your partner stepped in here to support you.
Well done for handling it. Of course he was going to minimise it but you know the truth. Creepy and horrid.

icelollycraving · 21/05/2024 07:18

Creepy McCreepface.

ClockworkDisaster · 21/05/2024 07:18

No you are right. He was extremely inappropriate. I have had friends for years who wouldn’t have felt it appropriate to touch me like that, let alone first proper meeting.

I wouldn’t answer the door to him again.

CatSucker · 21/05/2024 07:18

The creepy fucker! And his poor GF.

Get a Ring doorbell and never answer the door to him again.

redfacebigdisgrace · 21/05/2024 07:20

Awful. What a creep. You poor thing. Well done for standing up to him. Good your partners got his measure too. Hopefully he won’t bother you again now.

Porageeater · 21/05/2024 07:25

Never answer the door to him again. It’s definitely creepy and wrong. When people gaslight you start questioning yourself but trust yourself here.

HalebiHabibti · 21/05/2024 07:28

Well done for calling it out so plainly. Next time, try to trust your instincts and don't let people like that into your house a 2nd time if you can help it!

imnotsickbutimnotwell · 21/05/2024 07:28

Why did you let him in twice? If I didn’t know him I would have said “sorry no sugar but the shop sells it”. Get a video doorbell! Don’t answer the door to him again.

MonsteraMama · 21/05/2024 07:30

Ew yeah what an absolute creep. I don't feel that sorry for the girlfriend either tbh, what utterly bizarre behaviour to bring him round like he's her naughty child to apologise to you. Feels like she was trying to catch you lying!

I'd avoid the pair of them like the plague, bluntly and meanly if you have to.

Zombella · 21/05/2024 07:31

Reading this, I was reminded of the murder of poor Joanna Yeates, killed by her male neighbour after he made an unwanted pass at her.

Your neighbour's behaviour is very disturbing. Predatory. You did the right thing in calling him out on it. Hopefully he's just an arrogant creep but I'd suggest getting a ring doorbell.

2Old2Tango · 21/05/2024 07:34

After the first time you were daft to entertain him the second time. You should have pointed out you were busy and there's a shop a minute down the road. Defo get a video doorbell.

GeckoFeet · 21/05/2024 07:35

I think you and your partner handled it really well.

Well done for confronting it straight away.

0hno · 21/05/2024 07:36

2Old2Tango · 21/05/2024 07:34

After the first time you were daft to entertain him the second time. You should have pointed out you were busy and there's a shop a minute down the road. Defo get a video doorbell.

Stop this victim blaming bullshit

GeckoFeet · 21/05/2024 07:36

2Old2Tango · 21/05/2024 07:34

After the first time you were daft to entertain him the second time. You should have pointed out you were busy and there's a shop a minute down the road. Defo get a video doorbell.

It's easy to say that now that it's happened.

Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 07:44

Thank you all for your comments so far! I think the whole thing has just had me so unnerved and confused. In the moment I was overwhelmed and just didn’t know what was happening or how best to respond, then to have them rock up on my doorstep the next day and to go through the stress of having to explain how I felt on the spot like that, while he stares me down and gaslights me, it was all just a lot! I’m well aware I shouldn’t have opened the door a second time, but like I say, I was confused by it all, and to a fault I guess I was giving him the benefit of the doubt..

OP posts:
Nchanged89 · 21/05/2024 07:46

His GF unfortunately knows exactly what he's like. Keep your door locked and ignore then both from now on.

CannotWaitToBeFree · 21/05/2024 07:51

This is not normal behaviour! Hopefully youve nipped it in the bud. Just be polite from now on but keep conversations to small talk eg weather! Its creepy.

dottiedodah · 21/05/2024 07:52

WTAF! He has some sugar but comes to "borrow" some.Follows you in your own house, and looks at your rings/tattoos as an excuse to get close! He sounds creepy as fuck .Make sure not to answer the door to him in future

IHateLegDay · 21/05/2024 07:55

He sounds dangerous (and scarily like my ex). Put up a security camera.

Gerwurtztraminer · 21/05/2024 07:57

You were being nice & polite and not making a fuss because as females that's how we are conditioned to behave, so don't feel bad about how you dealt with it.

I had a creep do a similar thing once (including using excuses to touch me) and couldn't find the words to say anything. I was younger then, I like to think I would tell him to fuck off now! So chalk this one up to experience.

Make sure your door has a chain on as well as a video doorbell.

Good for you and bf for going to say something though, most people don't and it escalates.

MissUltraViolet · 21/05/2024 08:02

Get a video doorbell ASAP and I would also be putting a chain on the door. Obviously never let him in again or open the door without the chain on. (If you stick the doorbell up then you wouldn't need to anyway, you or preferably your BF could talk to him through that instead but i'd suggest not - ignore the creep). It'd also be a good idea for any future issues - you'd have it all recorded.

Sorry this happened to you OP. Who just follows someone into their home and starts looking through their stuff then starts touching them FFS. Yuck.

Conniebygaslight · 21/05/2024 08:12

Jesus! that's not creepy, that's dangerous, he's gone straight to cornering you and touching you! I'd be informing the police, doing a Claire's law check and be moving. I might sound alarmist but that is so bloody bad OP, I'm so sorry.

FartSock5000 · 21/05/2024 08:30

@Chael86 creepy predatory behaviour and you were 100% right to confront him.

Keep your door locked. He's unlikely to go away quietly when he's that bold.

If he approaches you again, tell him firmly NO and to not speak to or come near you again or you will report him to Police and then do that if he doesn't listen.

Too often woman are 'trained' to be polite and accept this kind of awful behaviour when no man ever would. You owe him NOTHING so be firm and clear and follow up if he doesn't stay away.

Gcsunnyside23 · 21/05/2024 08:30

Excellent response from your partner in backing you up and well done to you for backing yourself up and not letting him intimidate you into rethinking or doubting what happened. I bet it was his idea for him and the girlfriend to come around, she's bollocked him and he's banked on social tendency to downplay and minimise confrontation when he tried to gaslight you. What a dangerous creepy person. I would how many other times he's pulled this