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Creepy neighbour - thoughts!?

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Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 07:13

Hello! I had a strange encounter with a neighbour last week which made me feel very uncomfortable. I’m sure I’m right, but my mind will always minimise things/mitigate for people so I wanted to run the situation past others and see if your thoughts support mine!

Thursday, 1pm there’s a knock on my door, I don’t answer, they knock again, this time louder. I look out the window and see that it’s a fairly new neighbour who I’ve only met once or twice in passing and never really spoken to. He lives with his girlfriend and his child. I open the door and he says he’s sorry to bother me but do I have any sugar, he’s run out and really needs a coffee. I laugh and say “are you serious” because it seemed cliche. He says yes so I say ok sure and turn to go into the house and grab him some, except he follows me in and into my kitchen. He had brought a coffee with him and then helped himself opening drawers to find himself a spoon. He then said how it’s cool that we both work from home, what time do I have my lunches usually, suggesting essentially that we could have lunches at the same time. He told me he likes to draw and saw some of my artwork, then suggested we should do some drawing together sometime. All questions after this were the type that enabled him to get close and have physical contact - I like your rings, folllowed by holding my hand and leaning in close to look at them, I like your tattoos, followed by holding my wrist and arm and running his hand over them, what size are your ears stretched to, can I have a look, followed by moving in to look closely at my ears. After a while I said sorry you need to go, I have work to do, do you want to take some sugar with you - he said no that’s fine I’ll go to the shop later - the shop which is less than a minutes walk from his house. I thought the whole thing was weird but gave him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he is very over-familiar and lacking in self-awareness, and maybe he genuinely needed some sugar.

3pm - there’s a knock at the door again, and it’s him again. I go down there, he says sorry can I grab some more sugar, I say fine and again he follows me into the house, again helping himself to a spoon. The front door has been left open, I say I need to make sure my cat hasn’t run out and he tells me I can close the door. I do this so my cat doesn’t run out and then immediately start heaping sugar into a bowl so he can take it and just get out, in the middle of doing this he says hey can I look at your tattoo again and takes hold of my wrist, runs his hand over the tattoo again and slowly up my forearm. At this point I am kind of in a corner and I panic, pull away and say I really need to get on so here’s your sugar. I then march quickly to the front door to get it open and on the way out, he says by the way - you don’t need to tell your partner I came round. I say he already knows you’ve been here.

This is all really creepy, right!?

So I tell my partner all of this and how uncomfortable I felt and he’s furious. The next day, he sees my neighbour’s partner in the street and asks her for a word, says her boyfriend made me feel very uncomfortable in our house yesterday and can we have our sugar pot back. She is baffled - why was he in our house and why does he have our pot. He explains, she goes into their house and 20 minutes later, they are both on the doorstep and he is very politely apologising for making me feel uncomfortable and asking me to explain what he did that made me feel that way. This gets my back up straight away because he knows full well, and I tell him so. He denies saying that I didn’t need to tell my partner and tells me I’m overreacting. I tell him he’s gaslighting me, and that he’s a creep. I then ask his girlfriend if they had sugar at home yesterday - she tells me yes, they did. I tell him I have no idea what his intentions were but they did not originate in a place of honesty, he had sugar at home, an open door is not an invitation in, and his behaviour in my house/towards me was unnerving. I apologised to his partner because it can’t have been nice having someone stand there and call their fella a creep.

I’m right, right!!? I’m sure I am, but I’m such an overthinker, I’m overthinking myself into thinking I’ve gone overboard..

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 21/05/2024 08:46

Yanbu. Though I think it's a bit off for your partner to go and tell the gf that her partner made you feel uncomfortable, I think he should have gone straight to him or both of them at the same time

Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 08:51

I think my partner was concerned about flying off the handle if he approached the neighbour himself directly first as he was so angry, I’m proud of the way he managed it and supported me in this.

OP posts:
Eggmoobean · 21/05/2024 08:52

Your partner is a gem! Handled perfectly in my opinion. Now ignore him completely and totally. Ignore the previous posters saying be polite and keep your distance, this guy is a gaslighter and is unhinged. Any hello from you will undoubtedly be construed as a come on, so don’t give this guy anything - blank and ignore. Everytime. He is not right.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 21/05/2024 09:00

He's a predator. Get a camera doorbell and from now on completely ignore him. Your partner handled it very well, creeps like that don't like their predatory behaviour called out.

BMW6 · 21/05/2024 09:21

Well done to both of you for directly confronting the creep!

Absolutely get a ring doorbell, NEVER open the door to him without someone standing with you out of sight (so they can hear anything the creep says). Hopefully his GF kicks him out of her life.

MothralovesGojira · 21/05/2024 09:29

Absolutely well done on calling this menace out and well done to your DP for having your back immediately on this.
This behaviour is extremely predatory and he is obviously well practiced and I suspect that this isn't the first time they've moved. I'm not surprised at his reaction but he's probably not been confronted this quickly before as his type rely upon peoples good manners and reluctance to not say anything - particularly where women/females are concerned.

I would be keeping my doors and windows locked for a bit and be getting a ring doorbell and putting up CCTV at the back too and make it obvious that it's there. Do you know your other neighbours? I would probably be having a quiet word with any that you know just to give them a heads up. The word will get around but sadly some are going to fall for this creep's behaviour. Keep yourself alert because he may well have another go at you or try to convince you that he's harmless - he's not.

Evaka · 21/05/2024 09:34

My skin is crawling reading your OP. He sounds like a dangerous scumbag. And turning up to confront you like that with a fake apology. Find your rage OP. You mention your partner was angry but what about you?

dontcryformeargentina · 21/05/2024 09:37

What a creep! He knows what he is doing, definitely not his first time..

mrsdineen2 · 21/05/2024 09:37

He's a creepy fucker, you and your partner handled it well, and it's good that everything is out in the open.

Get a doorbell cam, front and back, however you have to afford it, make it happen. And make sure the locks on your doors are good.

EmilyTjP · 21/05/2024 09:40

This is a very odd story.

OneTC · 21/05/2024 09:41

No that's really horrible, he's not a good person

SallyWD · 21/05/2024 09:54

EmilyTjP · 21/05/2024 09:40

This is a very odd story.

That's what I thought! Did it really happen? I've never heard of anything like it. Yes men can be creepy in some situations but it's highly unusual for one to barge in to a complete strangers house, twice in one day and repeatedly caress her.
Assuming it's true it's very creepy and weird behaviour. Well done to you and your DH for making your feelings known.

Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 09:57

SallyWD · 21/05/2024 09:54

That's what I thought! Did it really happen? I've never heard of anything like it. Yes men can be creepy in some situations but it's highly unusual for one to barge in to a complete strangers house, twice in one day and repeatedly caress her.
Assuming it's true it's very creepy and weird behaviour. Well done to you and your DH for making your feelings known.

Yes it’s true! Bizarre that this is in question!??

OP posts:
Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 10:00

Evaka · 21/05/2024 09:34

My skin is crawling reading your OP. He sounds like a dangerous scumbag. And turning up to confront you like that with a fake apology. Find your rage OP. You mention your partner was angry but what about you?

Oh I was angry once I’d finished with feeling confused, overwhelmed and unsafe, and he knew about it when he came to the door with his partner to “apologise”.

OP posts:
KimberleyClark · 21/05/2024 10:02

imnotsickbutimnotwell · 21/05/2024 07:28

Why did you let him in twice? If I didn’t know him I would have said “sorry no sugar but the shop sells it”. Get a video doorbell! Don’t answer the door to him again.

And if you must answer the door close it and lock it while you get the sugar or whatever. But I doubt he’ll bother you again now that your partner the length and breadth of him.

I feel sorry for his partner too.

PremiumListing · 21/05/2024 10:09

Do not underestimate the seriousness of this situation, he sounds dangerous. He trampled through big boundaries, your home, your person.

Report this to the police non emergency line to have this logged, I have had similar and I was advised they prefer you to give them a heads up before something really bad has happened. I would not be suprised if he has a history of this, his boldness would indicate that. Your reporting will help other women if he does it again to you or someone else.

Lessons learned: never let an unexpected stranger into your house, especially when you’re home alone.

Do remember a lot of men are predatory and literally have sex and pornographic scenes running through their minds every hour of every day.

You need to practice honing awareness of your surroundings and the potential dangers.

Please do Google assertiveness videos, how to use your body language, tone of voice, and blunt communication to tell someone NO or to leave your property.

Generally, a cautionary tale not to answer the door if you’re not expecting anyone. Ask them to put a card or letter through your letterbox.
Anything really important will email, text or write to you anyway.

Burglery under these conditions would have been the least of your worries, I’m so pleased that you are unharmed, even though you’re clearly very shook up.

To start with, anytime someone begins to invade your personal space, move away.
If someone goes as far as to touch you, you must reuse your voice and tell them to STOP! Loudly.

The trick is to be on your guard and stop any overtures at the very earliest hurdle.

He did lots of micro tests on you, then and he progressed to interfering with your body.

The first no should have been before opening the door.

It’s not your fault. I wish we didn’t have to deal with this crap from predators.

PremiumListing · 21/05/2024 10:12

SallyWD · 21/05/2024 09:54

That's what I thought! Did it really happen? I've never heard of anything like it. Yes men can be creepy in some situations but it's highly unusual for one to barge in to a complete strangers house, twice in one day and repeatedly caress her.
Assuming it's true it's very creepy and weird behaviour. Well done to you and your DH for making your feelings known.

This, and worse happens everyday.

We need to arm ourselves with the knowledge and tools to protect ourselves.

It’s not OP’s fault she is a kind and easygoing person, the villain who abused this benefit of the doubt is the predator neighbour.

Please make a camera for your front and back doors a priority OP.

TheDumpling · 21/05/2024 10:12

If you know it's him at the door again, DON'T OPEN IT. Lock it, Call the police straight away. He's definitely a creepy weirdo.

MedicalAttention · 21/05/2024 10:14

I agree with premium. I'd report this to the non emergency police number.

This is predatory behaviour and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time he's acted like this. If it was the first time, at least they will have it on record, should anything else come of it.

TheDumpling · 21/05/2024 10:14

Keep a diary of what he did, date, times, how he made you feel, what he did and said, your partner's reactions and the reactions of the creep's partner etc. just in case.

Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 10:17

PremiumListing · 21/05/2024 10:12

This, and worse happens everyday.

We need to arm ourselves with the knowledge and tools to protect ourselves.

It’s not OP’s fault she is a kind and easygoing person, the villain who abused this benefit of the doubt is the predator neighbour.

Please make a camera for your front and back doors a priority OP.

Thank you - I think this is why I feel so upset. I am that easygoing, friendly type of person who will look for the best, and while I know rationally that his behaviour isn’t my fault, it is hard not to be angry with myself for being that person and not immediately acting on my instincts. Your posts are helpful, thank you!

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Beautiful3 · 21/05/2024 10:18

Good for your partner for calling him outbid front of his partner! 👏 👏 👏 What a creep. It would have escalated without intervention you know. Perhaps learn from this experience. From now on don't answer the door if you can see it's him. If you accidentally answer thinking it's someone else, say no sorry to any requests and shut the door. If anyone else asks for anything and you want to give it to them, say hold on, shut and lock the door, before getting it.

Toebeanzornottoebeanz · 21/05/2024 10:20

MedicalAttention · 21/05/2024 10:14

I agree with premium. I'd report this to the non emergency police number.

This is predatory behaviour and I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time he's acted like this. If it was the first time, at least they will have it on record, should anything else come of it.

Thank you - I will do this. I did say to him and his partner when they came to the door that I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this wasn’t the first time he has done something like this to make a female feel uncomfortable.

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Pocketfullofdogtreats · 21/05/2024 10:20

Even if you don't get a video doorbell, (or before you do), get a chain put on.

He was inappropriate. He knows he was. Ugh.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/05/2024 10:23

We lived next door to a SAHD at one point- he was clearly a bit lonely but I had a few encounters that felt a bit creepy too- although not as creepy as this. luckily we were about to move. Sorry OP- it's not a nice experience - keep your distance