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3 ‘baby mums’…. Instant red flag??

354 replies

Lilysienna1 · 13/05/2024 20:23

As the title says…. Would you continue talking with a man you’ve met (in person) if he told you he has 5 children with 3 women? (Youngest is a one year old, oldest is 16.)

From what he has said, the relationship he has with the mothers of his children is amicable, and he has all 5 of them (3 with 1 mum, then one each with the other 2) every other weekend and pays child support for all 5.

Bearing in mind, I have 3 children with my ex, so I feel like a hypocrite for even wondering if there is something just a bit off… that with 3 women things didn’t work out, that he has had the last 2 children fairly early into each relationship and that the youngest is only 1, and that relationship ended 6 months ago…. Red flag or second date…

OP posts:
pollymere · 16/05/2024 10:59

I'd definitely give it a few dates and find out more first. As others have said, you don't currently know the circumstances fully.

anon666 · 16/05/2024 11:43

I really despise the expression "baby mums". I don't think women go around popping out children with no concern about ongoing parenting. I think a small number of men seem to see it as their god-given right to impregnate as many women as they can, and ignore the consequences. Parenting is a two person job. Whilst obviously life doesn't work out that way for a lot of people, surely some kind of theoretical commitment is ideal for the start of a child's life. The idea that financial child support and seeing his kids every weekend is an adequate compensation for starting up and abandoning three women is wrong. He's a bad un.

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 11:47

anon666 · 16/05/2024 11:43

I really despise the expression "baby mums". I don't think women go around popping out children with no concern about ongoing parenting. I think a small number of men seem to see it as their god-given right to impregnate as many women as they can, and ignore the consequences. Parenting is a two person job. Whilst obviously life doesn't work out that way for a lot of people, surely some kind of theoretical commitment is ideal for the start of a child's life. The idea that financial child support and seeing his kids every weekend is an adequate compensation for starting up and abandoning three women is wrong. He's a bad un.

Actually women do this too,let's not stereotype .

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/05/2024 12:06

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 11:47

Actually women do this too,let's not stereotype .

They frequently have children by several men and then hardly see or parent them?

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 13:52

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/05/2024 12:06

They frequently have children by several men and then hardly see or parent them?

Yeah it happens.

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/05/2024 13:57

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 13:52

Yeah it happens.

Yes, it happens. But are you seriously suggesting that it happens at anything like a comparable rate to men?

Meandspottydogs · 16/05/2024 14:00

It sounds to me like he can't commit. I may be wrong but definitely something not quite right , and I'm not judging, it's just a definite pattern there

kkloo · 16/05/2024 14:08

Nothing7 · 15/05/2024 20:07

Feels a bit sad to not give him a chance if you clicked and like him. It may lead to nothing but wouldn’t you get to know a bit better and see how the situation came about.
He could have been very unlucky and went into the first relationship with high hopes then it didn’t work, so met the other 2 who had a plan to get themselves pregnant and ok maybe he could have been safer but could have been unlucky?
There are women who seem to get pregnant very easily and quickly because it suits them and they don’t care about how the man feels. I know of at least 3 women who’ve miraculously become pregnant immediately after the relationships started and have more than 2 children by 2 dads.

Miraculously became pregnant eh?
Were the men not having sex with them?

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:10

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/05/2024 13:57

Yes, it happens. But are you seriously suggesting that it happens at anything like a comparable rate to men?

Yes I am ..I wouldn't bother quoting me again about this because I am done with this.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 16/05/2024 15:15

Something another poster mentioned is valid OP - you have 3 children, how would they feel having another 5 children foisted on them every other weekend should this relationship progress?

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 15:39

I think 2 lots of children with 2 women would be my limit… but it would depend how long he’d been with them before having kids… the fact he’s got a one year old and is already looking to date again would be my biggest concern! He seems to have no respect for the fact his ex has only just had a baby and he’s already left her and trying to move onto the next!

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 15:42

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:10

Yes I am ..I wouldn't bother quoting me again about this because I am done with this.

Don’t be daft ..
I know literally loads of single women whose partners have left them to raise the kids practically alone, seeing the kids Onky a couple of days a month if at all…. I don’t know if any women who have done this…
yes women do occasionally leave their kids but it’s rare

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:44

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 15:42

Don’t be daft ..
I know literally loads of single women whose partners have left them to raise the kids practically alone, seeing the kids Onky a couple of days a month if at all…. I don’t know if any women who have done this…
yes women do occasionally leave their kids but it’s rare

Why you quoting me for ? I am not the one saying it rarely happens.

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:46

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:44

Why you quoting me for ? I am not the one saying it rarely happens.

Wrong thread sorry ...Anyways you don't be daft it literally happens to men too.The point is it happens ethier gender ....don't quote me again.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 16/05/2024 15:52

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 15:42

Don’t be daft ..
I know literally loads of single women whose partners have left them to raise the kids practically alone, seeing the kids Onky a couple of days a month if at all…. I don’t know if any women who have done this…
yes women do occasionally leave their kids but it’s rare

I'm good friends with a guy who raised two boys on his own (teenagers now) because their mum literally kept disappearing. When I was younger I knew a guy who had his two boys full time too.

I know more single mothers though. In my circle I'd say it's around 85% single mothers Vs 15% single fathers. But having thought about it, the single fathers proportion is higher than I would have expected.

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 15:58

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:46

Wrong thread sorry ...Anyways you don't be daft it literally happens to men too.The point is it happens ethier gender ....don't quote me again.

Yes but women very rarely leave their kids .. men leave all the time.
don’t quote me again?? How old are you 10? Just stop replying or do you always have the last word…

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 16:00

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 16/05/2024 15:52

I'm good friends with a guy who raised two boys on his own (teenagers now) because their mum literally kept disappearing. When I was younger I knew a guy who had his two boys full time too.

I know more single mothers though. In my circle I'd say it's around 85% single mothers Vs 15% single fathers. But having thought about it, the single fathers proportion is higher than I would have expected.

Yes no one is saying women never do it, but I bet the statistics would show upwards of 95% of single parents are women

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 16:01

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 16/05/2024 15:52

I'm good friends with a guy who raised two boys on his own (teenagers now) because their mum literally kept disappearing. When I was younger I knew a guy who had his two boys full time too.

I know more single mothers though. In my circle I'd say it's around 85% single mothers Vs 15% single fathers. But having thought about it, the single fathers proportion is higher than I would have expected.

You have a point,I wouldn't bother with that person,likes to have the last say so will continue quoting you until you don't respond, childish behaviour obviously.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 16/05/2024 16:14

T1Dmama · 16/05/2024 16:00

Yes no one is saying women never do it, but I bet the statistics would show upwards of 95% of single parents are women

Literally done the maths with the people in my own life to get the stats I quoted. Would you like to provide your evidence for 95% of all single parents being women or just keep arguing with people who have different experiences to you?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 16/05/2024 16:14

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 16:01

You have a point,I wouldn't bother with that person,likes to have the last say so will continue quoting you until you don't respond, childish behaviour obviously.

I have a rare free 10 minutes for some fun!

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/05/2024 16:16

Tryingtogetbyinlife · 16/05/2024 15:10

Yes I am ..I wouldn't bother quoting me again about this because I am done with this.

You should be done with it because you know full well you are talking tosh. The question only you can answer is: why are you knowingly talking tosh to people who also know you are talking tosh? Why do you not want to acknowledge the plain fact that very few women have children they rarely see by multiple men compared to men?

Ponderingwindow · 16/05/2024 16:35

Even if there are perfectly legitimate reasons to explain why the first two relationships failed, after having children with two different people, it is time to make sure that no more children are born. It’s not fair to the existing children to make their lives that complicated and just shows a parent with person with poor judgment.

Swishytwip · 16/05/2024 17:24

I have 2 kids by 2 different men. The red flag part of this for me is that he looks like a serial monogamist. I don't understand why people bounce from one relationship to the next without taking some time to reflect and do some work on themselves first.

LavenderPup · 16/05/2024 17:37

It’s a nope from me. I remember a guy trying to chat me up (my mate was taking his mate home) and showing me the pictures of his 3 kids with different mamas. He was puzzled I wasn’t interest lol - I asked him why he wasn’t at home with one the kids…..

bluetopazlove · 16/05/2024 17:43

One does have to ask why people feel the need to reproduce with each subsequent partner .Surely each new partner you happen to meet is not a suitable parent ?