To think that botox, fillers, and other facial procedures are becoming too common?

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I've just seen the recent pictures of the lovely Shania Twain. She's had so much facial work done that she looks unrecognizable! I find this such a shame given how naturally beautiful she's always been!

I also feel that facial work is causing a division between rich and poor women. I'm not sure what the answer to this is though?

CreamLampshade well said agree with you totally as know lots of young people getting lips done and botox out of pressure of social media and their friends all getting it. They are only in their 20's, early 30's. So is a trend and so many follow the trend. Also agree with the posters who said good botox, filler you will not notice as the person does not go overboard.

So many misinformed minds on this thread. I'd raise my eyebrow at you, if I could.

These girls want to look this way. That's their choice and it's not our business. Those that do want it with age can have it and those that don't, well... don't. You can have just the right amount that no one would know but you'll look great. The problem is it's easy to go overboard if your practitioner is a yes man.

Botox - when done well - is bloody amazing.
I haven't had any other cosmetic procedure.

Well, I hope he's a Tom Hardy lookalike

I suppose for Shania Twain who does look very different got to the point where looking different or strange was preferrable to looking how she naturally would at her age.

I do think people can do what they like but its obvious pressure to do stuff like this is ever increasing. My SIL recently was saying how she didn't want to go down that road but felt like she probably would have to start getting botox because everyone else is doing it and she feels like she will be left being the only one looking her age (she's mid 40s), she is also dating and feels like she needs to do it to be able to compete that way as well.

I see really young girls with faces all pushed out of shape by so called "facial balancing filler" but all it is doing is destroying their natural beauty.

We know now for a fact that filler doesn't dissolve away but stays in the body and lymph for many years, even a decade.

Look at this image of the lovely Kate Beckinsale, her use of filler seems to be doing more harm than good at this point.

Sorry is that a typo £50 fillers? Is that for 0.5ml? I was told by the lady who botched my lip fillers (2nd time of having done) that filler costs around £70 per ml for her to buy, she did fuck my lips though so not sure how much to listen to her 🤣

Can I ask, does the inability to move your forehead ease up? Only asking as I had one round of Botox last summer, couldn’t stand the feeling of being unable to make any expressions 🤣 so didn’t go back after 2 weeks for the top up, I’ve read since that the total paralysis does go so you can move your forehead, but the wrinkles don’t return until way later on when you would be due to go back. Is this true as I kind of want to go get it done again now that my train track wrinkle has returned 🤣

Absolutely not a typo 😅

I feel so mean to be posting this but it’s just insane!

It starts much younger than 18 though with tweens buying anti ageing skin care they don’t need.

I agree mostly lol, I do know a lady in her 60s who has a smidge of filler in her lips and I cannot tell, but if she had a smooth forehead I think it would at least make people wonder has she or hasn’t she had Botox? My 1st lip filler looked amazing imo, when I went to someone else (like an idiot because I didn’t want to travel as far and believed a well known salon near me must be good as they have been there years) she botched my lips, and by that I mean, she didn’t do a consultation with me, I was trying to get a more angled cupids bow, she put too much in my top lip and lessened my cupids bow, completely undoing the work the previous lady had done in starting to reshape

Ahh yes pricing makes sense with 0.5ml being £50, where I live I know of £70-80 per ml up to £130 ish per ml, I need to check this but I think there is a typo in that price list that would put me off though (bugbear of mine is businesses with spelling errors as makes me think unprofessional)

I agree with you, some people take it too far (their choice no matter what I think) some practitioners don’t know when to refuse to do more, and some do shocking work

It’s not just women, I can think of a fair number of male celebrities who have also had it done

This.

All the people talking about "subtle work" are encouraging this trend as much as the Kardashians. No-one needs to inject filler in their face ffs.

I’m not so sure it will, this trend has gotten easier to get for the average person as there are more practitioners popping up everywhere, but it’s a trend I remember from the 90s when poor Amanda Holden had it go so wrong for her, back then it was collagen in fillers though, we have moved onto hyaluronic acid, I’m not a scientist to know the ins and out of how much safer this is, maybe in a few years there will be a new realisation that something else is safer. All procedures come with risks and hopefully hyuralonic acid is as they say and none of us who get these things done will go through anything untoward because of our treatments

By definition you don't know who has done it done without you realising

Amanda Holden? Are you confusing her with Lesley Ash?

I don’t need to, I do it because I like the look on me of having a little bit of filler to reshape my lips, naturally I’ve lost a little bit of plumpness over the years and I’ve also got an in-balance in my lips, one droops a little bit. Funny story, my hairdresser and his friend were talking while he did my hair colour, they were saying how bad lip fillers look in their opinion, they asked me my opinion, when I told them I have had lip fillers done and I’m waiting for my top lip to get back to my natural lip without filler before touching again (bad practitioner) they were horrified that they may have offended me, they had genuinely not realised i have lip filler

Yes I am 🤦‍♀️ I did think it was Lesley ash but I told myself I was wrong 🤣

I do think for some people it can enhance if not too much is used, but you really do need to find a good person to do them, this was after my first filler, I have a pic of my 2nd and it’s horrible, 2 different people, I really should have gone back to the first place

The lips are never subtle! Some look like a baboon’s bum, some have a “ shelf” above the top lip and a dark shadow, and the side profile is ridiculous. I could see the benefit of lip filler for those with very thin lips which get even thinner with age, but the women who have this done often have nicely shaped lips already. Nasolabial and marionette lines can be effectively reduced with filler, but I wouldn’t let anyone near my tear troughs!

Omg so many people have a bad side profile with lip filler, this was a big no no for me when I chose to get it done, had to be a flat profile lip, not sticky out lips

I'd love to see wrinkles being celebrated as beautiful. Ive had botox twice...loved it but tbh Ialso love my smile lines.
Not loving my lip lines but filler made them worse. Trying to embrace my libes now tbh.

These girls want to look this way. That's their choice and it's not our business.

I think that the fashion industry, social media, expectations of what girls and women should look like, and the effects all of that has on people, are everyone's business tbh.

Yea but there’s nothing wrong with a slightly less plump lip, or an uneven side. They’re part of being human. I wish people would just learn to love and accept themselves as they are and not give into the ridiculous pressure we are put under by big business - because that’s what’s behind it, people wanting to make money from insecurities. Would make life easier for everyone - we’re getting to the point where everyone looks the same as well which is just boring.