To think that botox, fillers, and other facial procedures are becoming too common?

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I've just seen the recent pictures of the lovely Shania Twain. She's had so much facial work done that she looks unrecognizable! I find this such a shame given how naturally beautiful she's always been!

I also feel that facial work is causing a division between rich and poor women. I'm not sure what the answer to this is though?

Meh I'm starting Botox mid 30s, I spent my 20s with adult acne, my skin is not aging well (possibly due to the harsh treatment I had to take for the acne) and I would like to enjoy an unblemished youthful face even if for a short time.

I really dislike lip fillers though.

Couldn't agree more.

Young women should not be feeling such pressures to alter their looks, often for the worse.

YANBU, I think it's really sad that so many women feel the need to inject stuff into their faces. Hopefully it's a trend that will reverse soon.

I just think each to their own. It doesn’t make you better or worse, what ever you want to do with your face, it’s up to you and if it makes you feel better and you can afford it then I’m here for it and good for you. More important not tear each other down over our choices when it comes to out own faces. There’s no ‘better’ it’s not better to have a procedure and it’s not ‘better’ to age naturally. I’m all for just concerning myself with my own face and letting everyone else get on with theirs.

If they actually made you look better I would be tempted, but if the rich and famous can't pay enough to find a doctor who can make it look good, I seriously doubt I can...

It’s so depressing. I’m in my mid 40s and actually I don’t know many people who have done this. My friendship group is university educated and we’re mostly all slim and healthy with a focus on what we eat and exercise. People seem comfortable in their skin. I think I’m lucky in that what I see most of the time.
But I see the people you’re talking about OP, young women with obvious fillers etc. I suspect proper wealthy people have ‘good’ work done and it’s harder to spot.
I wish tv shows like the apprentice stopped picking contestants who look like they could equally be trying to get on Love Island.

Yes. It's quite disturbing in my opinion.

I have botox and I know what you mean. The difficulty is when everyone has it it starts to increase the bar of “normal” so you feel like you look older than your peers without it and that sits more uncomfortably.

i love having Botox. I love the results and it makes me feel really confident in myself and my appearance, I have a heavy feeling that I am becoming less desirable and attractive as I age and it helps dull that.

Tweakments in over 40s done well, and part of self care and maintenance etc is one thing....

But the current trend of this one-stop-shop look on younger women makes me wonder about the long term effects of such procedures on young faces as they inevitably start to age.

This is the trouble really. You almost have to as hardly anyone is aging naturally in my friendship group.

Yes and as they say, if you can’t beat them….

Hahaaa. Of course it can look good. You wouldn't think they'd had work when it looks good. They just look good.

Sometimes Kate gets it wrong and she gets spock eyes. But here an example of when it's done right.

I have a small amount of Botox every 6 months to keep a deep frown line in the middle of my forehead at bay and prevent the tension headaches I was getting from
frowning at a screen all day (I have frowned when reading since I was a kid) I only started in my early 40’s though.

There are women in my office in their mid twenties having Botox now and I find that concerning, They have been convinced that it’s preventative but I really think they had years before they needed to start worrying about that.

Women are more prone to chucking stuff on their faces and now all the actual injections. I would say long term health effects are unknown.

Each to their own, as long as I don’t have to participate I’m not concerned what other do. It will roll on to other things as fashions change

Don’t you worry about the world our young people are growing up in though? With 18y olds feeling they are not good enough so they are spending their low incomes on stuff like this?

This isn’t about criticising individuals at all. But I do hope that my 19y old doesn’t ever feel like she has to get injections to make herself more beautiful. This is not a good trend for our young people.

There's a few school mums who have dabbled in these procedures and they 100% looked better before! Not high earners either so I don't think it's necessarily a high/low class divide.

The fact you went to Dubai doesn't make your husband any morally superior. I'm glad you read him the riot act!

Oh also my boyfriend at the time (15years ago) had Botox in his armits to stop sweat patches in his armpits... it was something he was extremely self concious about & it made him happy, I really have nothing bad to say about our experiences from Botox

I think it shows more about who’s really vain and vacuous and who’s not, as opposed to a wealth thing. It NEVER LOOKS GOOD. And most people are too polite to tell you

This is an unkind comment. It can look good, if it is done well and is subtle. Just because you've seen lots of examples of bad work, doesn't mean there isn't good work out there, you've just not noticed it.

There's a huge variation in aesthetics. Those who have a little at the right age and those who overdo it both younger and older.

I've had Botox, lip blush and have monthly skin treatments like BBL/Moxi (laser), facials and micro needling. I regularly get comments about how much younger I look and how nice my skin looks. I don't ask people to comment but they do. My friends have also had tweakments and look good. If they hadn't told me I wouldn't have known. I'd have just thought they looked youthful and bright. People can believe that or not, but the issue is they just see the extremes. When it's done well it shouldn't be obvious.

'I do hope that my 19y old doesn’t ever feel like she has to get injections to make herself more beautiful. This is not a good trend for our young people.'

Completely agree.

I’ve always worried about it. There are always awful damaging stereotypes and people sneering I’d you do or don’t live up to them. Men don’t cry, men need to fight back… stigma of being a single mother, stigma of being a ‘spinster’ I hate that word, wrong to have children wrong not to, ladies don’t…. Blah blah …. There are always awful judgments placed on us and our children right down to how we should all be lifting heavy at the gym or it’s not a real workout to not having children because of climate concerns … just everything everywhere, thin is in, butts are in, boobs are out… the whole thing is horrible. But I hate when we at as t with the ‘ew look at the trout pout’ and ‘the state of that’ etc … it doesn’t help. We’re even shamed if we want to wear a high heel now. I guess it’s the attempt at shaming I don’t like. X

Same.

Tbh, I hear more about such things here on MN than actually seeing them in real life. I can count on one hand off the top of my head how many times I’ve seen noticeable work done on someone. The most I see is false eyelashes and nails in my area.

I remember when I was a teen it was nose jobs and breast implants that were popular, then again, few actually had them in my area and I knew more girls getting reductions than implants.