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Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Eieiom · 09/05/2024 11:12

Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

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YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:36

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 16:31

I know. It's so tedious.
Funny how they never call out the offensive stuff said about Charles, Camilla, William and Kate. Especially from Scobie.

I remember a thread around the time of the Coronation where an OP’s child had a non uniform day and the theme was red white and blue or royalty. She wanted to send her son with a headband that had big ears on them and a crown, to look like KCIII. I found it deeply disturbing a parent would encourage a child to be so nasty. Probably because my own beautiful son has slightly sticky outy ears and he is sensitive about them.
She did get flamed a little but many posters thought it was hilarious

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 20:37

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:36

I remember a thread around the time of the Coronation where an OP’s child had a non uniform day and the theme was red white and blue or royalty. She wanted to send her son with a headband that had big ears on them and a crown, to look like KCIII. I found it deeply disturbing a parent would encourage a child to be so nasty. Probably because my own beautiful son has slightly sticky outy ears and he is sensitive about them.
She did get flamed a little but many posters thought it was hilarious

How awful. That is just so cruel.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:39

RazzlePuff · 10/05/2024 16:43

Both Clarkson & Camilla have got hideous gargoyle-heads …. That’s enough for me.

WTF

Tell me, are you gorgeous or do you (as I suspect) in fact have a face like a dropped pie?

Nobody attractive trashes other people’s appearances like that.

I actually think Camilla is very attractive - she’s a woman in her 70’s who had aged gracefully and has an absolutely cracking smile

IsoldeWagner · 10/05/2024 20:40

Dear lord, some people are just so offensive.

Americano75 · 10/05/2024 20:46

Oh this thread has been gold. 😆

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:46

Hairychops77892 · 10/05/2024 17:47

The more interesting aspect of the Jeremy Clarkson story is the alleged light it throws on Camilla’s alleged contacts within the press. What follows is speculation on my part.

It’s been widely reported that Jeremy Clarkson (Paddington Bear heir) has been friends with Camilla since they were teens and they shared sneaky fags together. She in turn publicly praised the way his streamed series about farmers highlighted the endless difficulties they face.

And Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan (both guests, among others, at Camilla’s private lunch just prior to the publication of JC’s vile rant) were praised publicly by Rebekah Brooks Chief Executive of News UK , formerly Murdoch’s News International, for sticking by her and being stolid supporters when she was acquitted at the end of the phone hacking trial.

See threads about Harry v phone hacking.

This is is speculation on my part but all of this leads me to wonder whether whispers of Palace leaks are that far fetched?

Interestingly, the PR executive, Mark Bolland, who was responsible for rehabilitating Camilla’s image years ago, and who allegedly still lunches with her several times a year, is widely reported as being friends with Rebekah Brooks too! Fancy that!

Incidentally, Mark Bolland is married to Lord Black of Brentwood, or Guy Black, who for many years was a Telegraph Executive before, interestingly, he became a Peer and entered the House of Lords.

Maybe I am wholly wrong and again this is speculative, based on snippets I have found in various newspaper articles, but is it just me who starts to see interesting links?

Bolland’s rehabilitation of Camilla, allegedly at the expense of other royal family members, including Harry and Prince Edward, imho, is relevant in this context, as allegedly it is one of the original sources of Harry’s upset, that stories were being spun unfairly against him when he was a teenager.

All of which leads me to a speculative conclusion that, just possibly, The Chipping Norton Set may not be entirely fictitious, certain agendas are potentially being set during nice country weekends… and … oh yes… that we are very possibly all being played! 😬😀

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It’s been widely reported that Jeremy Clarkson (Paddington Bear heir) has been friends with Camilla since they were teens and they shared sneaky fags together

If you’re gonna make things up at least check that they ADD up - Camilla is 13 years older than Clarkson. 🤣🤣

And Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan (both guests, among others, at Camilla’s private lunch

It wasn’t her private lunch. Again - fact check before talking shite

As for the rest of your post - my dad lived round the corner from Karen Matthews and knew her brother so dad was probably a child abductor, everyone is always tainted by associations.

What an embarrassing post

Ceyla300 · 10/05/2024 20:46

Everyone rants on about Harrys book etc forgetting that KC wrote a book too in which he slammed both his parents. You can still buy it.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:47

Livingtothefull · 10/05/2024 17:48

Other countries manage pomp and ceremony too, a lot of them republics. The default unquestioning attitude of 'The British do things best' is tiresome. Unfortunately we don't do health services, transport, education etc (the list goes on) best. When we do, then we can feel genuinely proud.

Our healthcare services and education services aren’t the best but actually they aren’t far off - but I fail to see what it has to do with the RF

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:49

Livingtothefull · 10/05/2024 17:59

That's right, reel off the negative adjectives you have read about 'somewhere' in the media without any evidence they are valid to M&H. And there absolutely is a hate campaign, it is plain to see.

They have lied, trashed their family and the UK as a whole

Are we supposed to sit and Be Nice and say nothing about what they’ve done?

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:51

stronglatte · 10/05/2024 18:16

Harry was paraded in his grief with the agreement of his father - his Dad had the affairs, broke his mother's heart and now here is Charles now married to the queen of only a PR juggernaut with one hand balancing a G&T and a fag ... did we all forget how this man was a boy forced to grief in public with only a distance philandering father ?

His mum had affairs too.

It doesn’t excuse his actions 2 especially the lying. If he wants to air his dirty laundry IMO it’s distasteful but telling big whoppers to but himself in a better light and his father in a villanous light is actually quite deranged

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:53

boqq · 10/05/2024 18:32

Really do you ask your kids to check your diary to meet you. My kids can turn up at any time day and night and they’ll be welcome with open arms. All four so called royals are just pampered idiots. You don’t treat a son or a brother like that. The press are constantly berating Harry and his wife. It’s literally non stop and the family must be feeding them some of the rubbish as they did in the past. The latest is that Harry and Megan will divorce. I thought it was the other marriage which was on the rocks…

Unless you’re the King this is a ridiculous comparison

Also you’re a hypocrite - “People are so nasty to H&M but I’m also dropping a rumour here about William”

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:55

Nickyknakynoo · 10/05/2024 19:20

Forced to marry a virgin etc etc .......
That may be true but thereafter he could have chosen to act with compassion and integrity. Diana was the only one who didn't know what was going on ....add to that , she was barely 19 ! C was a mature man having grown up amongst the rules of 'the firm'
Diana was supposed to have been told by the Queen Morher to expect a Prince of Wales to have a mistress , it was just something that always happened and I firmly believe C was told this before he married.

He may have been doing his 'duty' or however they convince themselves that behaviour like this is OK but again, Diana was a teenager and she knew nothing.
Absolutely horrible with no justification then or now.
I am totally sick of them all , they should go !!!!

How is being aged 20 being ‘barely 19’?!

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 21:00

Ceyla300 · 10/05/2024 20:46

Everyone rants on about Harrys book etc forgetting that KC wrote a book too in which he slammed both his parents. You can still buy it.

He didn’t write it, and he didn’t lie in it I like Harry.

Livingtothefull · 10/05/2024 21:04

What evidence is there that H lied or that his 'betrayal' is any worse than Charles' book criticising his own parents?

ShyPoet · 10/05/2024 21:04

Jeremy Clarkson talked on the Country Life documentary about his friendship with Camilla.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 21:09

Livingtothefull · 10/05/2024 21:04

What evidence is there that H lied or that his 'betrayal' is any worse than Charles' book criticising his own parents?

Where to start!

  • He lied about Archie not being titled. He was never gonna be, because the Letters Patent mean he’d have to wait until KCIII ascended the throne
  • He lied about his security, saying his father took it away. A blatant lie - Charles doesn’t have the power. Recent court documents showed Charles actually support Harry’s bid to keep security.
  • Daddy cut me off - he hadn’t and in fact they got £4.5m in 2020 from daddy
  • How he found out the Queen Mum had died, painting it out to be a cold phone call when he was actually with his dad
Shall I go on?
quizzys · 10/05/2024 21:25

The sycophants, gossips, apologists, obsessed, and bored are a neck ahead here.

The rest of us, (well probably just me) are nodding our heads in bewilderment at the level of interest in and argument about a totally dysfunctional family that doesn't give two fuks about us, and never will.

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 21:25

ShyPoet · 10/05/2024 21:04

Jeremy Clarkson talked on the Country Life documentary about his friendship with Camilla.

No he doesn’t. He said he’s shared a few fags with her, and apparently doesn’t know if she still smokes. My friends know my smoking status so I expect they aren’t actually friends.

Dibbydoos · 10/05/2024 21:32

IsoldeWagner · 09/05/2024 20:00

Honest...😂

We can all have whatever views we like @IsoldeWagner My post is my view, instead of disagreeing with mine and undermining it with a laughing face share with us your view!

Middleagedspreadisreal · 10/05/2024 21:36

Most families? There are a lot of estranged families out there who don't forgive. I don't think The King is any more selfish than anyone else. I think he's being remarkably tolerant.

ShyPoet · 10/05/2024 21:44

"Jeremy Clarkson r has claimed he and the future Queen consort used to have a 'crafty' habit together. Clarkson said he gets on well with Camilla Parker Bowles as they bonded over a shared love of the countryside.
Speaking on Camilla's Country Life, a documentary looking at the Duchess as she guest edits Country Life magazine, Clarkson said they used to always 'sneak a crafty fag' out the back of the barn whenever they met up. He said: "I think we get on very well. Um, we used to go… perhaps I shouldn’t say this, but we used to go and sneak a crafty fag round the back of things. But I don’t smoke any more.""

https://www.mylondon.news/news/celebs/royal-family-jeremy-clarkson-reveals-24483506

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 21:45

ShyPoet · 10/05/2024 21:44

"Jeremy Clarkson r has claimed he and the future Queen consort used to have a 'crafty' habit together. Clarkson said he gets on well with Camilla Parker Bowles as they bonded over a shared love of the countryside.
Speaking on Camilla's Country Life, a documentary looking at the Duchess as she guest edits Country Life magazine, Clarkson said they used to always 'sneak a crafty fag' out the back of the barn whenever they met up. He said: "I think we get on very well. Um, we used to go… perhaps I shouldn’t say this, but we used to go and sneak a crafty fag round the back of things. But I don’t smoke any more.""

https://www.mylondon.news/news/celebs/royal-family-jeremy-clarkson-reveals-24483506

That’s not a friendship. I don’t say “I think we get on well” about any of my friends. That’s just someone he’s met

newnamethanks · 10/05/2024 21:51

A selfish King? Surely not, that's unheard of.

ShyPoet · 10/05/2024 21:56

@YaMuvva maybe not a close friend, but an acquaintance who he gets on well with.

Malo05 · 10/05/2024 22:02

YaMuvva · 10/05/2024 20:39

WTF

Tell me, are you gorgeous or do you (as I suspect) in fact have a face like a dropped pie?

Nobody attractive trashes other people’s appearances like that.

I actually think Camilla is very attractive - she’s a woman in her 70’s who had aged gracefully and has an absolutely cracking smile

A dropped pie 🤣🤣🤣 spat ma tea out! I'm using that in future

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