Can't help thinking King Charles is selfish

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Standing back, looking at the Harry situation, I can't help thinking that Charles is the root of all the family toxicity.

He had an affair while married to Diana, which led to their divorce and much unhappiness on her side. After her early death, his children were obviously in a lot of pain. The remote parenting style of the RF probably did little to soften this.
He's managed to marry his affair partner and now he's cutting off one of his sons.
Harry just looks like a really hurt person acting out to me. In most families, they would just be tolerated and forgiven.
I think the RF look very cold.

The day we are offered regular referenda to determine whether we want to keep the monarchy is the day we can confirm it is the will of the majority. All we have till then is opinion polls which vary widely.

The more interesting aspect of the Jeremy Clarkson story is the alleged light it throws on Camilla’s alleged contacts within the press. What follows is speculation on my part.

It’s been widely reported that Jeremy Clarkson (Paddington Bear heir) has been friends with Camilla since they were teens and they shared sneaky fags together. She in turn publicly praised the way his streamed series about farmers highlighted the endless difficulties they face.

And Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan (both guests, among others, at Camilla’s private lunch just prior to the publication of JC’s vile rant) were praised publicly by Rebekah Brooks Chief Executive of News UK , formerly Murdoch’s News International, for sticking by her and being stolid supporters when she was acquitted at the end of the phone hacking trial.

See threads about Harry v phone hacking.

This is is speculation on my part but all of this leads me to wonder whether whispers of Palace leaks are that far fetched?

Interestingly, the PR executive, Mark Bolland, who was responsible for rehabilitating Camilla’s image years ago, and who allegedly still lunches with her several times a year, is widely reported as being friends with Rebekah Brooks too! Fancy that!

Incidentally, Mark Bolland is married to Lord Black of Brentwood, or Guy Black, who for many years was a Telegraph Executive before, interestingly, he became a Peer and entered the House of Lords.

Maybe I am wholly wrong and again this is speculative, based on snippets I have found in various newspaper articles, but is it just me who starts to see interesting links?

Bolland’s rehabilitation of Camilla, allegedly at the expense of other royal family members, including Harry and Prince Edward, imho, is relevant in this context, as allegedly it is one of the original sources of Harry’s upset, that stories were being spun unfairly against him when he was a teenager.

All of which leads me to a speculative conclusion that, just possibly, The Chipping Norton Set may not be entirely fictitious, certain agendas are potentially being set during nice country weekends… and … oh yes… that we are very possibly all being played! 😬😀

Other countries manage pomp and ceremony too, a lot of them republics. The default unquestioning attitude of 'The British do things best' is tiresome. Unfortunately we don't do health services, transport, education etc (the list goes on) best. When we do, then we can feel genuinely proud.

YA 100% BU

i’m 66 and remember clearly the absolute distain that the Duke of Windsor was held in by family and public alike when he did that. D of W was Charles great uncle( I think). Absolutely no one would follow that example. Exile and disgrace, not great.

They were at boarding school anyway, and had seen very little of their mother during the summer holiday when she died. She had chosen to go away with her new boyfriend rather than stay with the boys until the start of the term.

We don't know if Harry tried to make arrangements in advance to see his father, all the royals have busy diaries and can't just drop their arrangements at short notice and disappoint those who were expecting to see them. Events are built around royal appearances and I'm assuming that he wouldn't want to let people down.

Why does Charles get all the stick? He's not a man that I particularly admire, but his whiny younger son doesn't get any of my sympathy.

And by the way, the misogyny on this thread is overwhelming and deeply depressing - on a women's site! People actually defending Jeremy Clarkson's attack on Meghan on here of all places.

There is a concentrated media hate campaign against Harry & Meghan (particularly the latter) which several posters have bought into. I don't think you need to like her to be utterly disgusted and shamed by the misogynistic, often racist abuse lobbed at Meghan for years by the UK media.

There is no hate campaign against Meghan and Harry.
Any negative stuff they bring on themselves with their greed, deceit and arrogance.

I absolutely agree.

Yeah right. 😀

'If the RF disappeared tomorrow, it would make no difference at all.'

Well you said it. Though the one thing that would change is that we would stop showering them with taxpayers' money

Yeah indeed.

Jeeeeezzz

yabu for starting a thread about nothing

That's right, reel off the negative adjectives you have read about 'somewhere' in the media without any evidence they are valid to M&H. And there absolutely is a hate campaign, it is plain to see.

And several of the attacks on Diana's character and personal life (a long-dead woman had affairs! She made mistakes as a mother! The horror!) tip into misogyny territory also.

Yet here you are posting about nothing.

I think before everyone thinks its a great love story C&M don’t forget he had a third mistress the press knew about Kiki who was an Ayssie married to an aristo and had a boutique in Knightbridge she ended up falling out of a window and became wheelchair bound . A Cartell family that u can never just walk away from you would need lifetime full on security . I think Harry knew if he put all the skeletons from the closet out there he took a huge amount of power back in his control I also think losing his mother that young creating a lot of anger and then living in a privileged fish bowl / circus but he does provide the perfect distraction tool away from Andrew who has behaved far worse on a moral level yet lets scapegoat H&M its a gift really because the real scandal is Andrew.

Harry was paraded in his grief with the agreement of his father - his Dad had the affairs, broke his mother's heart and now here is Charles now married to the queen of only a PR juggernaut with one hand balancing a G&T and a fag ... did we all forget how this man was a boy forced to grief in public with only a distance philandering father ?

Meghan seems to press a certain button of hatred.. what why !! it's exacerbated by the daily fail but there js an existing seam of discomfort mined there by the bigots -- but it can only magnify a feeling that is already there

We have the "Daily Fail"!

'No hate campaign against Meghan....'
Have you ever looked in a Uk tabloid?!
https://www.boredpanda.com/uk-media-double-standarts-royal-meghan-markle-kate-middleton/

Really do you ask your kids to check your diary to meet you. My kids can turn up at any time day and night and they’ll be welcome with open arms. All four so called royals are just pampered idiots. You don’t treat a son or a brother like that. The press are constantly berating Harry and his wife. It’s literally non stop and the family must be feeding them some of the rubbish as they did in the past. The latest is that Harry and Megan will divorce. I thought it was the other marriage which was on the rocks…

Ah one example there's probably plenty more where they're slagging Kate off for something they've bigged someone else up for. The media is a very fickle thing.

H&M could have had the media eating out of their hand but they decided to upset HMTQ with whines and demands, it all got out and so they flounced to set up as faux royals USA.. H should've met his dfil well before his gushing engagement interview, they should've listened to advice and not being so petulant. It is all his own doing.

It’s not just photo opps.

https://www.royal.uk/the-queens-work-on-violence-against-women

I think while Charles is probably a difficult character, he looks so very happy with Camilla.

Far from being shy Di she was fly Di who courted the press when it suited her, coming out the gym, the theme park with the young prince's etc. While her untimely death was indeed tragic I do think the full on outpouring of grief was pretty unnecessary I was however privately sad for the loss of the Queen.

I think Harry has behaved indefensible and treated his grandmother awfully. Megan Markle thought she'd have everyone falling at her feet one for being....ahem.... a Hollywood star and for being mixed race which I don't think anyone gave a fuck about. To accuse a royal family member of being racist was below the belt but she was clutching at straws of which lie would sound so sensational. Even George Cloony who attended Harry and Megan's wedding had no idea why he was invited.

Harry then accused David Beckham of selling stories about him. Now David might not be Sir Galahad, but to accuse him of that must've cut deep.

No this pair are the common denominatior both feeding each others insecure petulant and vindictive nature's, perpetual victims. I don't worry for William's children as Harry has commented, he should actually be more worried for his own children given how narcissistic both him and his wife are.