To be shocked not to be told trans student sharing bedroom on school trips

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DD aged 15 shared a bedroom with a trans girl (born a boy) on a school trip. Dd only found out the sleeping arrangements whilst on the trip and we only found out later. I presumed that trans students would have their own bedrooms at this age. Am shocked not to have at least been asked by school in advance. However it would appear that the policy given to schools is that sharing is fine.

Tandora - No I am not saying a child should be outed to me. Just give her a single room, that could be for medical reasons so it would not be outing and I never need know.

My son recently went a school trip and they didn’t get told who they were sharing a room with until they got to the hotel.

It is when they put a male in OP's daughter's room.

Except when there is an unsupervised set of teens, and one is a penis having hormonal teenage boy in the same room as a girl...

You get allocated a set number of rooms and pupils state who they want to share with. It will have already been decided. You don’t just decide when you turn up.
The staff will have lists already done

Such fucking bullshit

I know. Schools have to follow stringent guidance.

Its the sex of the child that is of concern regardless of the genitalia involved.

Boys should not be sharing with girls, Full stop

I would be absolutely livid. Mixed sex accommodation is a complete safeguarding fail.

Dear Madam,

They may well be allocated before trips, but kids rarely find out who they're sharing with until the very last moment possible.

This is because it's too much drama to let them know before hand and you get kids and parents whining and moaning.and trying to change rooms.

Yours,
School trip and youth group leader of 12+ years.

Dd appears fine with it and I am sure if asked she would have happily agreed as she would not want to appear transphobic and always likes to please school.

Greywitch - I am told that the 2019 trans inclusion tool kit recommends this sharing of rooms. Has this been replaced and what risk assessment should school have done?

So what part of this is bullshit:

“Dd only found out the sleeping arrangements whilst on the trip and we only found out later.”

My son nominated who we wanted to share a room with but there was an additional boy in the room that wasn’t on his nomination list.

I know hence my previous post
signed
Teacher and SLT with 27 years experience

No they aren’t

they maybe allocated in advance at the school you teach at or that your children go to but not at every school

as someone said on thread they quite often don’t give room allocation in advance so there is no arguing

raise a safe guarding concern

Yes but the staff already know, that’s the point

So... 3 girls shared a room... hardly fucking shocking or unusual or risky??

notice how they didn't put the "boy" in with boys...

Baisic safeguarding for school trips should be single sex sleeping accommodation.
A school breaking this with trans pupils is putting ideology before safeguarding.

So?

They still wouldn't tell parents regardless of a bit pretending he's a girl.

This guidance says that should not be happening, although it is non statutory guidance the school should be following it. Please ask for a meeting to discuss this with the head and/or chair of governors.

https://consult.education.gov.uk/equalities-political-impartiality-anti-bullying-team/gender-questioning-children-proposed-guidance/supporting_documents/Gender%20Questioning%20Children%20%20nonstatutory%20guidance.pdf

The OP never said that the teachers hadn’t allocated the rooms in advance. The complaint was that she didn’t know who her daughter would be sharing with.

I have lead numerous trips abroad in England. The advice I was given by the LEA Educational Visits Coordinator when I had a trans student last year was that they had to room with their biological sex.

You are wrong, my son has just been on his residential, they were only told who they were sharing a room with when they arrived.