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To think parents of only children are selfish

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Zara7 · 16/04/2024 12:29

I've just had a very interesting discussion with a 24 year old only child which sadly ended in tears. She said, she's upset her parents didn't have any more children because she grew up feeling very lonely. She's also very upset that she'll never be an aunt and her kids will not have first cousins.

I have not considered any of this and the conversation has really got me thinking as I am a parent to an only child (6 yo DD). I would've loved to have had another child but divorce happened and ex was/is a shit dad. Although, I'm 30 and have time to meet someone and start a family, but I really love my new-found independence now that DD is older, financial freedom and job. I don't want to have give up any of it up.

I feel selfish and inconsiderate of DD's future and feelings.

OP posts:
ButterflyKu · 16/04/2024 14:14

ExitSandyman · 16/04/2024 14:08

I think it’s selfish. I hated being an only child. I had 16 cousins and all had brothers or sisters, I was the only one that didn’t have a sibling and I always felt like an outsider. I never had anyone to play with and grew up with shit social skills as a result

Why do you think it’s selfish though? There’s no law that says parents need to have more than one child. Your experience is unfortunate and completely understandable, I just wonder how you think they’re selfish?

berksandbeyond · 16/04/2024 14:19

ExitSandyman · 16/04/2024 14:08

I think it’s selfish. I hated being an only child. I had 16 cousins and all had brothers or sisters, I was the only one that didn’t have a sibling and I always felt like an outsider. I never had anyone to play with and grew up with shit social skills as a result

I had 0 cousins, 1 sibling and I don’t have shit social skills so not really sure your excuse is valid. Maybe you would have always had shit social skills. Maybe you’ve got a chip on your shoulder

Samlewis96 · 16/04/2024 14:22

ExitSandyman · 16/04/2024 14:08

I think it’s selfish. I hated being an only child. I had 16 cousins and all had brothers or sisters, I was the only one that didn’t have a sibling and I always felt like an outsider. I never had anyone to play with and grew up with shit social skills as a result

No social skills with all those cousins??
I had 2 girls 3 years apart. They never ever played with each other. Then DS is 9 years younger than DD2 so effectively grew up as an only. So siblings are no guarantee you'd have had a playmate

toothypeggys · 16/04/2024 14:25

I have a 18 month old and really want another but I am already in my 30s and would either want another in the next couple of years or not at all. Unfortunately my DH is chronically ill and so it's looking like that wont happen. I always imagined I'd have either no or several children and I've had similar thoughts to you. However...

People often speak as if there are two options:

a) people are close to their siblings and being an only child would have been terrible

b) people don't get along with their siblings and don't speak or argue and being an only would be better

I'd like to mention a third option:

c) I'm close with my siblings but, thinking coldly and logically, still think id have perhaps been happier an only child

I have two older brothers and we got along surprisingly well growing up. We didn't randomly kick each other like my friends siblings and we didn't argue much. We did spend a lot of time playing together. However my brothers were always very close to each other and I always felt like a spare part on the outside.

In hindsight, especially since I was the youngest, they were very patient and spent a lot of time with me but I was still desperately lonely. They were "the boys". They were best friends. They weren't twins but they were treated like people often treat twins. I so badly wanted to be part of that.

I have memories of being left out in games or not being allowed to go out with them when they went off exploring on their own (because I was too young). They were part of one big friendship group - a load of boys from our street - and there weren't many kids my age.

I'd cling on to any bone they threw me and I just wanted nothing more than to be "one of them". From an early age I was acutely aware of my role of "annoying younger sister". Not that they were horrible to me. Just that hanging out with me was more like babysitting than hanging out with a friend.

And no, we did not have a massive age gap (I'm 7 years younger than the oldest and 4 years younger than the middle). Which means they are 3 years apart. There's no reason in another sibling group with the same age gaps that the youngest and middle wouldn't be tighter knit growing up.

We had so many lovely memories and we did still spend a lot of time together but I've kept those feelings of feeling an outsider with me my whole life.

I don't think "three is a crowd and four is a party" is the answer either as lots of dynamics of three siblings would be different to ours. I don't think any of us did anything wrong and I am ND so would likely have felt different to others anyway but I do think it affected me.

Most people who dabble in psychotherapy or similar therapies find links to their childhood and their current patterns in relationships, work, friendships especially with regards to their early relationships with their parents.

However I do not think enough attention is paid to sibling relationships. They are such important relationships and we are with them all the time.

I'm reading a book that speaks about upbringing and it basically argues that you and your siblings did not have the same upbringing. There were the labels that were put on you growing up as well as expectations about birth order, gender etc.

I have to agree that I think I would be a completely different person if I'd been born the oldest for example. I also expect that if I'd been a boy things would have been different too.

Now I reflect on my various issues as an adult, I do see myself repeating patterns that come from my relationship with my parents but I also massively see similarities in my early relationship with my siblings.

For example, I'm constantly pursuing quite cliquey but tight knit friendship groups that I aim to fight my way into in a hope to feel "part" of something and to belong there and be wanted but once successful I feel uncomfortable and struggle to maintain the friendship.

It's a subtle thing and something I didn't notice about myself for years but now I see myself doing things and have these flashes of childhood memories of feeling alone and trying to be good enough and grown up enough.

Now maybe I'd have been more unhappy an only. I don't know. It's hard to truly divorce myself from it. I know and love my brothers and now we are adults we are all equally close to each other (although drifted a bit in recent years for various reasons). I would never wish for them not to exist and I do still look back mostly fondly on our years growing up together.

But if I try to be objective and logical, I do think that it's likely that without always feeling left out and having more time/attention from my parents I'd have probably turned out a bit happier.

When we introduce another sibling it's so massive and adds so many more dynamics to the mix. I do think it's probably the safer option not to do so. It's hard because you don't want them to miss out on siblings but I wouldn't assume that the default option is "siblings are better" except for extreme cases where they hate each other.

Coconutter24 · 16/04/2024 14:27

My niece is an only child, after miscarriages and years of failed attempts my sister decided to give up trying for another baby as she couldn’t handle the heartbreak… would that make her selfish? There’s so many reasons people have only 1 child, hard to conceive, financial reasons, widowed, divorce and tbh anyone saying their parents were selfish for not giving them a sibling come across selfish and entitled themselves!

RazzberryGem · 16/04/2024 14:27

You know what else is selfish?

Having children that you can't afford

VickyEadieofThigh · 16/04/2024 14:31

countrygirl99 · 16/04/2024 12:32

I'll lend her one of my brothers. She'll end up delighted she's an only.

Indeed! My older brother is a complete twat.

IamaRevenant · 16/04/2024 14:33

Samlewis96 · 16/04/2024 14:22

No social skills with all those cousins??
I had 2 girls 3 years apart. They never ever played with each other. Then DS is 9 years younger than DD2 so effectively grew up as an only. So siblings are no guarantee you'd have had a playmate

Yeah... the age gap between me and my siblings was big - closest was my brother who was 7 years older then 10 years, then 14.

I spent a lot of time with my cousins who were far closer in age. And school friends. As adults I'm closer to my siblings but I don't feel I missed out on social skills and playmates as a kid. Maybe they live far away?

KreedKafer · 16/04/2024 14:34

Equally, plenty of kids with siblings might say they'd rather have been an only child. Just because one adult you spoke to was lonely, that doesn't mean everyone is.

My brother has a large family and at least one of the kids doesn't enjoy having siblings around him all the time at all.

Jovacknockowitch · 16/04/2024 14:36

We couldn't concieve a second time.

IamaRevenant · 16/04/2024 14:40

Coconutter24 · 16/04/2024 14:27

My niece is an only child, after miscarriages and years of failed attempts my sister decided to give up trying for another baby as she couldn’t handle the heartbreak… would that make her selfish? There’s so many reasons people have only 1 child, hard to conceive, financial reasons, widowed, divorce and tbh anyone saying their parents were selfish for not giving them a sibling come across selfish and entitled themselves!

Exactly. My sister tried for ten years with her DH with multiple losses. Finally got pregnant via IVF and her DH died mid pregnancy. My DN is such a happy, confident, sociable boy and very much loved, I know my sister would have liked another but it wasn't to be for obvious reasons.

I don't think my sister is selfish. Or yours!

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 16/04/2024 14:41

I still had an open episiotomy scar 6 years after having DD.

H34th · 16/04/2024 14:48

But if I try to be objective and logical, I do think that it's likely that without always feeling left out and having more time/attention from my parents I'd have probably turned out a bit happier. @toothypeggys

I enjoyed reading a lot of the posts on these thread (as the one quoted above). Everyone has also been quite nice to the OP which just shows to me how used to this stereotype and judgment only child parents are, and how tolerant with this nonsense.

I know OP is also a parent of an only child but I'm annoyed by the wording in the title, I'm annoyed she hadn't realised her child may be lonely and not be an aunt until this 'discussion' she had, I'm annoyed she has zero conviction in her child rearing that she'd be so influenced by this one conversation, and the fact it just occurred to her that her child might have a half sibling through her father.

If you don't want your child to feel lonely may be don't leave them alone? Most parents now actively and meaningfully engage with their children much more compared to previous generations.
Do you not play with your child, read, do crafts, take to places, model friendships..?! If you don't, that would make you a selfish parent regardless of the number of humans you produced.

Growlybear83 · 16/04/2024 14:52

My brother was ten years older than me so in many respects, it felt like I was an only child when I was a little bit older. I had lots of cousins, who lived at the other end of the country to me and so I can only remember seeing most of them once or twice as a child. But I was perfectly happy having a very small family and never felt that I'd missed out. I got engaged on Christmas Day when I had just turned 17 and was paraded round his enormous family over the Christmas period. I was so horrified by the thought of such a large family thst it was a major contributory factor to me breaking off the engagement a few months later.

Now that both of my parents and my brother have died, my family has shrunk even more to just my husband, daughter, son in law, and my sister in law and her two sons is Australia.

parkrun500club · 16/04/2024 14:53

Yes parents of only children are selfish. Especially if they can't actually have more children because of secondary infertility, or because they lost a baby in utero, or at birth. Or indeed a child might die during childhood or early adulthood, leaving them with one child who has lost their sibling

That doesn't apply to me, I just had one child by choice. I wasn't going through pregnancy again, putting myself through the risks a pregnancy posed. Neither did I, given my son had all ten fingers and toes and all the bits he was meant to have, risk having a disabled child next time round.

Selfish, maybe. I don't actually care what you or any other MNers think.

Side note: given there are too many people in the world and we are destroying the planet, maybe the selfish decision is to have children at all.

elevens24 · 16/04/2024 14:56

@ExitSandyman there's no way of knowing whether you having shit social skills was because you were an online child. Perhaps it's just your personality, or a multitude of other factors.

Research has shown that only children often have better social and communication skills because they get more 1:1 time with adults, but also they seek out more interactions/ friends/ hobbies outside of the home.

Dweetfidilove · 16/04/2024 14:56

Samlewis96 · 16/04/2024 14:22

No social skills with all those cousins??
I had 2 girls 3 years apart. They never ever played with each other. Then DS is 9 years younger than DD2 so effectively grew up as an only. So siblings are no guarantee you'd have had a playmate

Sounds like my nephews. They are 10 years apart, so the older one is here with my daughter every chance he gets, because he feels closer to her than his brother. Nothing is guaranteed.

Channellingsophistication · 16/04/2024 14:58

I don’t think it’s selfish to have one child.
I think it’s much more selfish to have lots of children if can’t actually afford them or have the time to look after properly.

I have an only child. Not through choice though as I couldnt have any more.

DS is quite happy being an only child. He is very sociable - always found making friends easy.(I think because he went to nursery from a baby).

We can have an idealised view of siblings, but the reality is siblings don’t always get along. My sibling has issues which causes stress in the family and my partners sibling no longer speaks to any of their family.

Often great friendships have closer bonds.

FrangipaniBlue · 16/04/2024 15:07

I'm an only child, I don't wish I had siblings and never have.

In fact, I'm glad I don't have any !!

FrangipaniBlue · 16/04/2024 15:10

I think it’s much more selfish to have lots of children if can’t actually afford them or have the time to look after properly.

100% bob on!!

Coconutter24 · 16/04/2024 15:27

IamaRevenant · 16/04/2024 14:40

Exactly. My sister tried for ten years with her DH with multiple losses. Finally got pregnant via IVF and her DH died mid pregnancy. My DN is such a happy, confident, sociable boy and very much loved, I know my sister would have liked another but it wasn't to be for obvious reasons.

I don't think my sister is selfish. Or yours!

Sorry to hear what you and your family went through ❤️

Allshallbewell2021 · 16/04/2024 15:33

One size does not fit all. Many people only have one child for many reasons.

Not all onlys are bereft, not all kids with siblings are necessarily better off.

Onlys do need the parents to make maybe mire effort for play mates. Holidays can be harder work for parents of onlys but there are no rules IMO.

mrlistersgelfbride · 16/04/2024 15:33

I had a sibling but I was painfully shy and had shit social skills. My brother was the same to a lesser degree. Having a sibling doesn't magic away problems or give you a better personality.
I think my parents just went along with having 2 kids as it was the done thing in the 80s.

My brother, as I've already said, is a drug addict and gives them so much heartache at 37 years old. Every phone call that comes it's asking for money or telling them he's been beaten up or something.
I'm sure they occasionally wish they had had 1 - or no- children.
And my brother will be obviously be no help once my parents die. He will probably fight and guilt trip me for drug money!
I would have been fine as an only child. For sure.

MidnightPatrol · 16/04/2024 15:36

I have four siblings and am the only one that had any kids.

So they might not be an aunt anyway.

Investinmyself · 16/04/2024 15:39

It sounds like she’s got issues nothing to do with being an only.
Mine is a young adult only. Not through choice but as life has progressed it honestly was best fit for us all.
Shes not lonely. She did a wide range of activities as a child. I’d also willingly have friends over or take a friend with us on trips. Holidays were child friendly. She is best friends with two girls who are only in all but name (adult siblings or half siblings)
Materially she knows she’s better off - our required loan top up at uni is £5500 a year, peers with siblings close in age are being told live at home for uni or northern only.
She may well be an aunt as her partner will probably have siblings.
Myself and dh have siblings but rely on each other and good friends for most things.
Mine positively expresses how happy she is to be an only.