For voting Tory

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I know what the Tories are and no, I don't like it. But I'm a woman, I have daughters and I come from generations of women who've been abused and dismissed because of their sex. I want better for my girls but I can't do it on my own. I need a government who will (at least give lip service to) supporting me. Am I a Tory? no. But the last thing women need is to be fighting their own government for basic recognition, so Tory it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/16/uk-culture-secretary-urges-ban-on-transgender-athletes-competing-in-female-only-events

Calling someone an idiot is always offensive as you well know. I suggest you edit your post.

I said this last time: austerity created the perfect conditions for this. Anyone working in public services is stretched to the limit, that's not a good place to start from when required to face down a wave of ideology pushing through all aspects of care. The Tories have been looking around at the silly little people who don't know what a woman is, utterly refusing to acknowledge that they broke down every barrier by starving them of adequate funding.

Well, a single sex ward is no use to me if I can’t get a bed on it because the waiting list is so long.

I’d rather be in a mixed sex ward than be treated on a trolley in a corridor… or wait 2 years to get the procedure I need to have any quality of life

I didn't say any of that. You did, which is your right. I don't like people attributing their own words and view to me. My views are in my original post. Please edit your post accordingly.

My views are in my original post.

Irony alert

Please edit your post accordingly.

You must be new here. Free speech reigns.

Don't tell me you're a long time Labour voter and have never voted Tory before. Am I right?

Hmm. Why might our population be getting sicker? It couldn't be anything to do with decades of underfunding our public services & growing inequality could it? If only there were a solution to an aging population, some way to encourage people of working age, whose education we didn't have to pay for, to come here.

The NHS costs a UK citizen less than half what the US healthcare system costs an American. It's a nonsense to think we can't afford the NHS but can afford private healthcare.

I do think that voting pretty much entirely on a "single" issue would be a little bit irrational (although not unreasonable per se because it's obviously up to you to decide what's important to you). There are so many things that affect women's welfare and vulnerability to abuse, and speaking very personally, I don't see the trans issue as being the most significant of these.

I'd be inclined to have a look at which party is more likely to fund domestic violence support, sentencing reform, tackling the causes of crime, childcare, funding development budgets to help women in developing countries etc. etc.

Although that's hard when Labour won't say what their spending plans are! You might need to wait for the manifestos.

If the major parties don't have much between them in terms of wider policies to help women (possible, given labour's various approach) then you could use your "single issue" as the main decider.

Sorry? I'm not getting the irony - elaborate please.

What an unpleasant, patronising final sentence.

That seems to be the basic script that is issued.

Free speech is essential and all opinions shared openly - fab. Attributing your or someone else's views to a specific poster is incorrect. I'm happy to point out the error and hope the poster will amend accordingly and share the opinion without attributing it to me. Thanks

Referring to SureStart as a 'quaint little idea' only weeks after more evidence of its massive positive effects on children and families has emerged tells me all I need to know about you, OP.

It’s an odd view for someone who purports to put women’s interests above all else.

Exactly - it is unpleasant and patronising, that's my point. Women's issues become trivialised side issues when lumped together with the fat greater hardships of trans women. History tells us men - even those in dresses- shout down women. Our concerns are trivial.

It’s pretty hard for 0.1% of the population to shout down 51%. You’re being ridiculous.

If this is honestly the biggest hill you have to die on then you vote with who serves your purpose best, but for me there are FAR FAR bigger issues then this.

See my post above. Happy to clarify nuance which may be lost in translation. Sure start was the stand out policy for the Blair government, utilising public buildings for the benefit of women and children (without excluding men). That's what we did with libraries before drag queen story time.

I teach. How many trans people do you know OP? I teach trans students, I teach students who go by different names/pronouns and yes, some parents aren’t aware. Did Labour cause this because as far as I’m aware, the DfE for the last 13 years has been Tory.

That makes no sense. Absolutely none.

I care more about women in poverty than bloody semantics.

Really?
So the fact that your mother might have to wait for ages to even get a hospital appointment (because the Tories have stripped the NHS for the last 13/14 years) means nothing to you?
I despair with this short sighted "reasoning"

It's transparent, isn't it.

But look at the influence that 0.1% has had - in schools, media, NHS, workplaces - that's the problem - that's what's ridiculous. They have shouted down 51%