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AIBU?

For voting Tory

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Whatismypasswordthen · 16/04/2024 12:23

I know what the Tories are and no, I don't like it. But I'm a woman, I have daughters and I come from generations of women who've been abused and dismissed because of their sex. I want better for my girls but I can't do it on my own. I need a government who will (at least give lip service to) supporting me. Am I a Tory? no. But the last thing women need is to be fighting their own government for basic recognition, so Tory it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/16/uk-culture-secretary-urges-ban-on-transgender-athletes-competing-in-female-only-events

UK culture secretary urges ban on transgender athletes competing in female-only events

Lucy Frazer calls on sporting officials to draw up ‘unambiguous’ guidelines on gender identity

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/16/uk-culture-secretary-urges-ban-on-transgender-athletes-competing-in-female-only-events

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Cazpar · 16/04/2024 12:35

I'm sure the millions of women who've been pushed into poverty by austerity, who've seen Sure Start centres scrapped, who've had to wait years for justice because of cuts to the legal system, who can't get decent maternity or gynaecological care thanks to cuts to the NHS, who have seen no progress to fix the pay gap or to tackle punitive zero hours contracts (which disproportionately affect women), who have been crippled by care responsibilities while being paid a pittance, and who've once again seen a budget designed to help men rather than women will be overjoyed.

www.theguardian.com/business/2024/mar/07/how-a-conservative-budget-failed-to-help-women-again

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IDontHateRainbows · 16/04/2024 12:37

You probably think Maggie Thatcher was a feminist icon, despite having policies that were in no way feminist, because she broke the stereotype of men always being the ones in power. Do you?

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User2460177 · 16/04/2024 12:39

I would vote for them too (for the very first time) after seeing Victoria Atkins telling off Lloyd Russell Moyle. It was the best thing I’ve ever seen in parliament

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Ddimlacio · 16/04/2024 12:42

Ridiculous if you decide who to vote for based on culture war issues like this. Playing into their hands

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EnjoyingTheSilence · 16/04/2024 12:42

Yes you should absolutely vote Tory. Their record of making life better for woman is so so great.

FFS

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ilovesooty · 16/04/2024 12:44

Here we go again...

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/04/2024 12:44

I couldn't be more gender critical if I tried and I still couldn't bring myself to vote for them (or anyone else at the moment).

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mrlistersgelfbride · 16/04/2024 12:44

Oh yeah they are fantastic. You go for it.
Those selfish rich Etonian old boys really love women don't they.

YABVU.

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Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 16/04/2024 12:44

Right now I can no longer give any care pr consideration to the Trans debate.
It is such a small concern when measured against the real issues we are facing in this country, that are mostly due to the Tory Governement.

So right now my priority is
Education, NHS, The Economy, welfare etc
And the Tories are absolutly destroying them
So if there's a party that can fix the above but can't tell a man from a woman that's still the party getting my vote.

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bluetopazlove · 16/04/2024 12:45

IDontHateRainbows · 16/04/2024 12:37

You probably think Maggie Thatcher was a feminist icon, despite having policies that were in no way feminist, because she broke the stereotype of men always being the ones in power. Do you?

Thatcher knew women were going out work without having adequate childcare and Thatcher cared not a jot . Feminist indeed .

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CeraveFoam · 16/04/2024 12:46

You’re aware that all the changes of the last decade have happened under the Tories?

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kitsuneghost · 16/04/2024 12:46

YANBU
You vote whichever manifesto suits you at the time
Voting by habit (I have always been an x voter) is worse than voting to support something you believe in

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Bluepetergarden · 16/04/2024 12:48

What exactly have they done in 13 years ?

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Peonies12 · 16/04/2024 12:48

Cazpar · 16/04/2024 12:35

I'm sure the millions of women who've been pushed into poverty by austerity, who've seen Sure Start centres scrapped, who've had to wait years for justice because of cuts to the legal system, who can't get decent maternity or gynaecological care thanks to cuts to the NHS, who have seen no progress to fix the pay gap or to tackle punitive zero hours contracts (which disproportionately affect women), who have been crippled by care responsibilities while being paid a pittance, and who've once again seen a budget designed to help men rather than women will be overjoyed.

www.theguardian.com/business/2024/mar/07/how-a-conservative-budget-failed-to-help-women-again

This. Focus on the real issues affecting the majority of people.

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 16/04/2024 12:48

You are not being unreasonable to vote for the political party which best suits you

you may be a smidge unreasonable for starting an aibu on it though

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Moonshine5 · 16/04/2024 12:50

Only if your daughter is Michelle Mone is it the right move.....

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SoundTheSirens · 16/04/2024 12:50

Your vote is your vote, ultimately it's between you and the ballot box.

I couldn't vote Conservative personally, despite them finally having recognised which way the wind is blowing and rowed back on some of the gender ideology excesses (that were allowed to take hold on their watch in the first place). They're not doing it because they support women, they know it because "anti-woke" is a vote winner amongst a certain sector of the electorate. But I have a disabled loved one to support and I cannot vote for a party with the Tories' record on welfare 'reform'.

Unfortunately I can't vote Labour, Lib Dem or Green either as they've all lost their collective minds to the point they're unable to define what a woman is. They either know and are lying, or they really are that stupid. Either way, there's no incentive to vote for a party who would remove my right to define myself as part of a specific sex class, with all the policies which flow from that definition.

As it stands I am politically homeless.

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YouHaveAnArse · 16/04/2024 12:55

If this is honestly the most important issue affecting your life and those of the people you love - no issue with their record on housing, austerity, public service cuts, asset stripping the country, fucking up Brexit, fucking up Covid, failing to give a shit about people unable to pay their bills, then I envy you. You're easily manipulated and exactly the kind of voter Tories want.

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mrlistersgelfbride · 16/04/2024 12:58

YouHaveAnArse · 16/04/2024 12:55

If this is honestly the most important issue affecting your life and those of the people you love - no issue with their record on housing, austerity, public service cuts, asset stripping the country, fucking up Brexit, fucking up Covid, failing to give a shit about people unable to pay their bills, then I envy you. You're easily manipulated and exactly the kind of voter Tories want.

Totally this.
The Tories have no more straws to clutch at so are going for this angle which is all they have left.
Sadly it seems to be working.
Some people have short memories.

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Mum1976Mum · 16/04/2024 12:59

I’d vote Labour if they weren't going to add 20% VAT to private school fees. We are already only just paying them as it is! Unfortunately, all the state schools by us are shit with parents who don’t even bother to parent so we have no other option than paying school fees. So it’s conservative for us and every other parent in our school by the sounds of it!

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EasternStandard · 16/04/2024 13:02

You get to vote as you wish, of course

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skippy67 · 16/04/2024 13:02

Crack on then OP. 🙄

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TheShellBeach · 16/04/2024 13:03

I actually cannot find a party whose policies align with my thoughts, needs and wants.

I used to be a member of the Labour Party. Then I moved to Scotland and joined the SNP.

Then the SNP were unable to define what a woman was, so I became politically homeless. I can't vote for any of them. None of them (apart from the Tories) can define what a woman is. They're all prepared to agree that TWAW. Except for the Tories. This makes it impossible to find a party to vote for.

But I especially can't vote for the Tories, even though they seem to be able to define what a woman is. They're only advertising this because it's a vote winner with a certain section of society.

Their general record on women's rights is utterly shameful though.

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HermioneWeasley · 16/04/2024 13:03

I’m a single issue voter, so I definitely won’t be voting Labour.

a better NHS is no use to me if me or my mum are put on mixed sex wards.

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jeaux90 · 16/04/2024 13:03

User2460177 · 16/04/2024 12:39

I would vote for them too (for the very first time) after seeing Victoria Atkins telling off Lloyd Russell Moyle. It was the best thing I’ve ever seen in parliament

Yep I was cheering her on.

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