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Husband not invited to nephews wedding because he has MND

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WarmGreyReader · 13/03/2024 15:18

My husband has 2 brothers and one nephew , nephew is getting married and one brother has been invited but my husband has been excluded and no explanation . Father of the groom is always popping into house as husband is terminally ill with MND and i presumed we were getting an invite even if we couldn't attend . I find out that the RSVPS were last week from a stranger and was so embarrassed angry and hurt . Grooms father has given no warning or explanation but has been acting guilty around me . Seems its ok for me to be the carer of his brother but im only dirt on their feet really .I want to say something and advocate for my husband who would be livid if he knew what going on .In fact i know he would tell his brother not to visit and to leave us alone . I am keeping this information from my husband as he is too sick to understand but do not feel right about brother being in my private space when we are excluded . We are from a culture where siblings not being invited would be seen as a dreadful slur .

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Ohhoho · 14/03/2024 19:28

My late partner had MND and I know how excluding it can be. I got no support from his family, they were all in denial.

LenaLamont · 14/03/2024 20:02

I think @CJsGoldfish (excellent user name!) hasn't missed the point at all, she's nailed what you are glossing over, @WarmGreyReader

You are feeling hurt, rejected, othered and overlooked. You feel your DH has been abandonned by his family as no longer a person worth including.

CJ's pointed out there are other motivations that could apply to their actions and, without talking to them, you are putting the worst construction on their motives and hurting yourself in the process.

I'm desperately sorry for the pain you are your DH are going through. I wish you nothing but the best. I do think you might be lashing out where there's no need to be in this case, but if I were run down be being a carer for a loved one with MND, I might do the same.

Keeper11 · 14/03/2024 21:00

WarmGreyReader · 13/03/2024 15:18

My husband has 2 brothers and one nephew , nephew is getting married and one brother has been invited but my husband has been excluded and no explanation . Father of the groom is always popping into house as husband is terminally ill with MND and i presumed we were getting an invite even if we couldn't attend . I find out that the RSVPS were last week from a stranger and was so embarrassed angry and hurt . Grooms father has given no warning or explanation but has been acting guilty around me . Seems its ok for me to be the carer of his brother but im only dirt on their feet really .I want to say something and advocate for my husband who would be livid if he knew what going on .In fact i know he would tell his brother not to visit and to leave us alone . I am keeping this information from my husband as he is too sick to understand but do not feel right about brother being in my private space when we are excluded . We are from a culture where siblings not being invited would be seen as a dreadful slur .

I think you have to analyse this carefully.
First if all, as many posters have said, the grooms father is not responsible for the guest list.
Secondly It is just possible you were both excluded from the invite list because it is recognised that you couldn’t attend. BUT an invite would have been nice. On the other hand does an invitation mean a present is expected? Were the couple trying to save you from that expectation?
Thirdly - why do you think you are “dirt under their feet” for caring for YOUR husband. Do you think that now he is so poorly the responsibility passes back to his blood relatives?
And finally why do you want to prevent your husbands brother from visiting? Surely not because you have not been invited to a wedding? You say your husband doesn’t understand exactly what is happening, so why would you deny him access to his brother? Even if your husband is too poorly to recognise his brother, he must be a source of support?

You have a really difficult life, all carers sacrifice their lives and most people have nothing but admiration for these hidden carers, but do try not to let resentment over trivia, actually make your life even worse.

Silverfoxette · 14/03/2024 22:21

My brother has MND too. We had a family event at the weekend and dsil came with the children. We felt it was important for them to be there even though I’m sure it must have been so difficult for her attending without him. Maybe this was their thinking, that it might be difficult for you, or the other way round-difficult for them!? I dunno, I have found some people weird about his illness, they don’t know how to respond.
Hugs to you ❤️

Butchyrestingface · 14/03/2024 22:32

TheBeanBeanie · 13/03/2024 15:35

So is it obvious to everyone that he wouldn't be able to go? In which case maybe they didn't want to be all WE'RE HAVING A PARTY WE KNOW YOU CAN'T COME TO.

This is what I think.

Some people would be offended to receive an invite in such circumstances and think that the inviter clearly didn't have a CLUE as to what was going in the ill person's life.

WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 22:43

Butchyrestingface · 14/03/2024 22:32

This is what I think.

Some people would be offended to receive an invite in such circumstances and think that the inviter clearly didn't have a CLUE as to what was going in the ill person's life.

I guess you'd have to be in the position

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6pence · 14/03/2024 22:46

You have every right to be hurt and upset but the most important thing at the moment is for your dh to be supported by people who love him.
If he was well he might completely agree with you and your feelings but it’s not in his best interests for there to be a rift between you all now. Let him end his days in ignorance of everything, enjoying the comfort and love of all his family, despite some bad behaviour on their part.
Yanbu to be upset and embarrassed though. Just be careful dh isn’t affected by it all.

WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 22:54

Ohhoho · 14/03/2024 19:28

My late partner had MND and I know how excluding it can be. I got no support from his family, they were all in denial.

Condolences on you loss. I've figured that people don't like being around sick people, most will ignore avoid to self preserve .Ive been told outstraight by some of his friends that they want to remember him as he was and the person was just being honest.
Its easier support a person that will die quickly

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WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 22:59

6pence · 14/03/2024 22:46

You have every right to be hurt and upset but the most important thing at the moment is for your dh to be supported by people who love him.
If he was well he might completely agree with you and your feelings but it’s not in his best interests for there to be a rift between you all now. Let him end his days in ignorance of everything, enjoying the comfort and love of all his family, despite some bad behaviour on their part.
Yanbu to be upset and embarrassed though. Just be careful dh isn’t affected by it all.

I agree with you .I won't let my husband know as he doesn't need to be worried and I will continue to accommodate their relationship

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Bernardo1 · 14/03/2024 23:04

Tell them to F. O.
You're leaving yr estate to MND and Cats protection.
Think they'll get the message.

WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 23:07

Keeper11 · 14/03/2024 21:00

I think you have to analyse this carefully.
First if all, as many posters have said, the grooms father is not responsible for the guest list.
Secondly It is just possible you were both excluded from the invite list because it is recognised that you couldn’t attend. BUT an invite would have been nice. On the other hand does an invitation mean a present is expected? Were the couple trying to save you from that expectation?
Thirdly - why do you think you are “dirt under their feet” for caring for YOUR husband. Do you think that now he is so poorly the responsibility passes back to his blood relatives?
And finally why do you want to prevent your husbands brother from visiting? Surely not because you have not been invited to a wedding? You say your husband doesn’t understand exactly what is happening, so why would you deny him access to his brother? Even if your husband is too poorly to recognise his brother, he must be a source of support?

You have a really difficult life, all carers sacrifice their lives and most people have nothing but admiration for these hidden carers, but do try not to let resentment over trivia, actually make your life even worse.

I've not said I don't want his brother to visit or would stop visits .My priority is my husband and his family wouldn't be capable of doing a day of what I do .If I wasnt here they would have him in a carehome or hospital in 24hrs .They don't appreciate the level of work I do as I make it look easy and I am always positive for their sakes .I expected a little respect is all .

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WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 23:09

Silverfoxette · 14/03/2024 22:21

My brother has MND too. We had a family event at the weekend and dsil came with the children. We felt it was important for them to be there even though I’m sure it must have been so difficult for her attending without him. Maybe this was their thinking, that it might be difficult for you, or the other way round-difficult for them!? I dunno, I have found some people weird about his illness, they don’t know how to respond.
Hugs to you ❤️

I get what you are saying. I am hurt that I wasnt told we weren't invited, I overestimated my position

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SandyY2K · 14/03/2024 23:26

You seem more consumed with perception of the community and other people. You mention shame and embarrasment a lot and these things just lead to bitterness.

The bride and groom may think that inviting you when they know your wouldn't be able to attend, was just fishing for a gift.

This one incident shouldn't make you feel they the family don't appreciate what you're doing for their brother.

Looking after a terminally ill person is hard. One of my parents has dementia ..its very hard and is getting worse every week, yet I know it's not a patch on MND.

So try and get support and respite for yourself.

Silverfoxette · 14/03/2024 23:38

WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 23:09

I get what you are saying. I am hurt that I wasnt told we weren't invited, I overestimated my position

They should have called you to at least explain or to say, we would love for you to be there but understand if it’s not possible. A simple phone call was all they had to do.

T1Dmama · 14/03/2024 23:59

This is so sad.

I’d ask BIL why you’re not invited and why you weren’t fore warned!

I would tell brother in law that this would break your husbands heart and is breaking yours! Tell him how your feel…

I would detach completely and not send nephew a card or present! He doesn’t deserve it

usernamealreadytaken · 15/03/2024 13:16

WarmGreyReader · 13/03/2024 21:26

I think you are looking too much into it ,I am feeling hurt used and have been put in a position where I put up or shut up Though i am not in a position of power I have enough self esteem not to accept when disrespected .I have been the better person and resolved issues so that noone has regrets .
I am a positive person with good mental health and love my husband ,the caring role is very difficult but I pull through .This incident has set me back mentally but I will prevail as being insulted is not important in the bigger context .I am genuinely shocked that I wouldn't be automatically invited. In my culture it is even considered that you don't need an invite as siblings are automatically invited
I am a lucky person that I had the relationship I did with my husband and I'm not used to dealing with toxicity

If it's considered in your culture that you don't need an invite as siblings are automatically invited, why would you consider that you needed an invite?

MrsPerfect12 · 16/03/2024 16:46

I would be hurt too, they could've handled this so much better by either just posting an invite or asking if you thought your DH would appreciate seeing an invite even though he/you wouldn't be attending - it's not nice to be disregarded especially at a difficult time. I hope they've just been thoughtless rather than not wanting someone end of life there.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 18/03/2024 10:52

theleafandnotthetree · 13/03/2024 17:47

I think that because of the awful situation you are in, perhaps this situation has become a focus for your anger and feelings of being cut off from normal life and happy rituals. Which I totally get. But I think for the sake of harmony and making your husbands remaining time as peaceful as it can be, I wouldn't be blowing up at anyone and certainly not your BIL (who has likely acted out of spinelessness rather than malice or thoughtlessness in not giving you the heads up, he can't be blamed for the non-invite). People don't always behave as we would like in specific situations but it doesn't make them monsters, just humans who most likely didn't know what to do and chose wrongly as you see it.

good point

Anahenzaris · 18/03/2024 11:15

I don’t know a polite way to say this - but OP you sound unhinged. You are talking about wanting to ban his brother from seeing him because you weren’t invited to an event you had no intention of attending that is being organised by someone else. I know you said you wouldn’t, but simply wanting to isolate him from his brother to me says you are not ok. Your reaction is hugely disproportional (I seriously doubt your nephew is delighting in images of you both feeling rejected - he is most likely trying to new considerate, even if he has got it wrong for you).

Is your husband receiving palliative care? Do you have respite assistance? Being a carer is exhausting. Watching your husband become progressively more limited in what he can do is heart breaking. You sound tired, scared, and alone. You both need support - and I suspect you aren’t getting the support you need. Your comments make me suspect you are trying to do this all on your own. It’s not clear whether that is because there is no help available, or because you see it as the loving thing to do to care for him without support. I’d there odd a service or charity you can reach out to for help take it! Get support for your husband and support for yourself.

rosesandbees · 18/03/2024 19:36

I’m so sorry your husband is so unwell, what an incredibly difficult time
for you. Of course they should have invited you to the wedding.
We Knew that my husband’s Grandmother would be too unwell to come
to our wedding but hoped his Aunt who cared for her might be able to come. We sent them a an invitation knowing that the answer would be no but they really appreciated the invitation and the thought.
It’s the thought that counts!
I hope you can have a calm conversation with your BIL and express the hurt you feel and the embarrassment caused by not knowing.

spidermonkeys · 18/03/2024 19:49

WarmGreyReader · 13/03/2024 15:52

Because he is the father of the groom . He will have been party to invites and to the decision not to invite .

Really? My FIL wouldn't have had a clue. Apart from knowing where he needed to be and what time he wouldn't have been able to tell you any info whatsoever

CJsGoldfish · 18/03/2024 20:27

WarmGreyReader · 14/03/2024 14:50

You are missing the point .

No, I'm really not but I can understand you not wanting to address my post. The lack of response can be the response sometimes.

Regardless, I AM sorry you are feeling the way you are

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