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To feel sorry for the Tories?

599 replies

User135644 · 13/03/2024 13:42

The Conservative Party are a British institution. The most successful political party in the democratic world. They're going through a bad time at the moment and have been dealt a bad hand. They inherited a global financial crash which the western world is still to recover from and then a once in a lifetime pandemic which has further crippled the economy. Now there's wars in Gaza and Ukraine. Really unfortunate circumstances for them to operate in.

It looks like they're going to get a really bloody nose in the next election. Starmer has taken the centre ground and now Reform are starting to steal their MPs as well as voters. Now even their biggest donor is caught up in a scandal. When it rains it pours.

How can they recover from this? Can they recover from this?

The Tories are the great survivors but it's hard to see how they can win the next election, or maybe even the one after that.

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Hoglet70 · 13/03/2024 13:43

Labour wont undo of the policies people are moaning about and will spend more money and put us more into debt so they'll win again at some point.

ecoeva · 13/03/2024 13:44

No need to feel sorry for them. Labour will be no better though.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 13/03/2024 13:44

I don't feel sorry for them at all. And I am not sanguine that they will be defeated in the election either Sad.

Penguinmouse · 13/03/2024 13:45

Why would I feel sorry for a party that has absolutely wrecked the country over the past 14 years? Public services absolutely decimated by austerity that didn’t even reduce the national debt, Brexit which has destroyed the country’s economy all because David Cameron couldn’t stand up to some backbenchers and a series of disastrous PMs who offer nothing. Struggle to think of a single thing that’s better now than it was in 2010.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 13/03/2024 13:46

Most of their problems are self inflicted, so no, I don't have any pity for them.

mn29 · 13/03/2024 13:46

Lol, yes yabu.

heldinadream · 13/03/2024 13:47

Well that's a new take OP, well done, you have a vast and creative imagination. 🙄

Cazpar · 13/03/2024 13:47

The Tories are the great survivors

So are cockroaches.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/03/2024 13:48

Brexit was because they were having internal tantrums. Ruined the country because they act like naughty toddlers.

Fuck them. Their kind of venal selfish narcissism has no place in public life.

mn29 · 13/03/2024 13:48

How quickly partygate et al have been forgotten.

LakieLady · 13/03/2024 13:48

Far from being sorry for them, I'm fucking delighted and the GE can't come soon enough for me.

The only thing I'm sorry about is the billions it's going to cost to fix the NHS, school buildings, housing crisis etc. The next government is going to have a massive task on its hands, possibly the biggest since rebuilding the country after the war.

GoonieGang · 13/03/2024 13:49

They will recover, Labour did and are looking likely to win the GE.
It won’t be until Labour screw up but they will be back in power eventually

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 13/03/2024 13:49

You want racist lying scheming lawbreakers to succeed?

AceofPentacles · 13/03/2024 13:50

Fuck them, they only care about themselves and this is the result

Geebray · 13/03/2024 13:50

The Tories need a cleanout. Some fresh blood. Any party that's been in government as long as they have loses eventually.

I'd say they'll be back in government in two elections, ie 8-10 years.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2024 13:50

No, I’m fucking delighted they’re doing so badly.

Finally reaping what they’ve spent 14 years sowing.

whatkatydid2014 · 13/03/2024 13:51

While I don’t want them to I absolutely wouldn’t rule out them winning the next election or getting a hung parliament.

WritingFreeStyle · 13/03/2024 13:51

OP - you are of course being ironic, right?

LightSwerve · 13/03/2024 13:51

You feel sorry for a political party because the electorate no longer like them?

They don't have a born right to govern, it's up to the voter.

Snowbear32 · 13/03/2024 13:53

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Foxblue · 13/03/2024 13:53

Ahahahahahahhahshaha

Aahahahahha
Ahahahhaha
Ahahaha

The Tories havnt spent a second feeling sorry for anyone else, so please don't waste your time.
Setting aside everything else for a second..
The party where everyone has to quit or be fired constantly because they are so corrupt or incompetent? THAT party?

whatkatydid2014 · 13/03/2024 13:55

I feel sorry for voters.

Those that are broadly aligned to traditional conservative values around low tax/low state involvement are not well represented by the current party.

Ditto those broadly aligned to higher state intervention/tax with current Labour Party

Certainly don’t feel sorry for Conservative leadership though as really think they’ve dug themselves plenty of holes above and beyond the issues that aren’t their fault.

LenaLamont · 13/03/2024 13:55

SORRY for them?
For deliberate and unneccesary austerity driving millions onto poverty?
For deliberately trashing the NHS and eviscerating local government budgets,?For Cameron skipping thoughtlessly to Brexit in a pissing contest with his own party members then driving off into the sunset whistling a merry tune?
For giving a transport contracts to a ferry company with no boats and not knowing Dover was a crucial part of international trade?
For putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk?
For knowing a pandemic response was in a parlous state and ignoring it?lying to or keeping their health and medical advisors in the dark about most of their plans?
For partying while we buried our relatives who died alone in hospitals and care homes?
For using the pandemic as an excuse to line the pockets of every venal Tory crony available while pissing money up the wall on empty Nightingale hospitals and unusable PPE?
For elevating scammers, schemers and shaggers to the Honours list and rubber stamping pay outs to egregious failed Prime Ministers?
For trashing the economy (again)?
For pulling back from all environmental commitments and authorising more fossil fuel power stations?

I could go on but I need a cuppa.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/03/2024 13:57

They have to win the odd election. Every few elections. So they can blame every single thing that happens on Labour. And people believe it, even though the country's slow sad slide into shit has been almost totally their fault.

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/03/2024 13:57

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/03/2024 13:57

They have to win the odd election. Every few elections. So they can blame every single thing that happens on Labour. And people believe it, even though the country's slow sad slide into shit has been almost totally their fault.

Lose obviously.