To feel sorry for the Tories?

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The Conservative Party are a British institution. The most successful political party in the democratic world. They're going through a bad time at the moment and have been dealt a bad hand. They inherited a global financial crash which the western world is still to recover from and then a once in a lifetime pandemic which has further crippled the economy. Now there's wars in Gaza and Ukraine. Really unfortunate circumstances for them to operate in.

It looks like they're going to get a really bloody nose in the next election. Starmer has taken the centre ground and now Reform are starting to steal their MPs as well as voters. Now even their biggest donor is caught up in a scandal. When it rains it pours.

How can they recover from this? Can they recover from this?

The Tories are the great survivors but it's hard to see how they can win the next election, or maybe even the one after that.

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you poor deluded fool

ex Tory voter here

I don’t feel sorry for them in the slightest. As other posters have pointed out, they’ve brought most of their problems upon themselves.

They mismanaged their response to the pandemic and to the financial crisis.

They then tried to undo the damage of their Covid mismanagement by going all-out to help Ukraine. Whilst I absolutely agree we should help Ukraine, it was so obvious that Boris was doing it mainly just to save his own skin, and it backfired for him in the end.

Now, they are mismanaging their response to both the war in Ukraine and the war between Israel and Gaza. They set up the Homes for Ukraine scheme, and are now saying it can’t continue in its current form, which is understandable, yet they’re making no clear or sensible plans to secure its legacy.

Regarding Gaza, they are making a song and dance about how legitimate and peaceful protests against the war in Gaza threaten the social fabric and democracy of our society. That is completely incorrect and also just deepens the divisions that already exist - partly caused by the austerity measures introduced by the Tories in 2010, where they consistently underfunded public services.

Added to this, we have had 2 changes of Prime Minister since the last election in 2019, and neither were democratically elected, due to the constant in-fighting happening within the Tory party. Not only is the in-fighting completely unprofessional but the consequences of it - of appointing new leaders without a democratic process - undermines our democratic system.

I think they have been terrible for the country. I don’t know if another party would be better, but they have been absolutely awful.

Denial is a powerful thing but this about takes the biscuit.
Do you keep up with current affairs and politics?
Have you not heard about the numerous lies and corruption which have come to light?
Were you here for the pandemic?
Have you not noticed the state of public services?
Are you living in a tiny rich bubble of “I’m alright jack”?
Good grief!

They're just Daleks in disguise

Let me guess, you're a lifelong Tory voter, butttt..... 😉

Ha ha - Brexit, Johnson, Truss, austerity, the shocking cohort of terrible Red Wall MPs - they are very much at the "find out" stage of "fuck around, find out"

Just to clarify there are some individuals within the party that I don't feel sorry for and they were self-serving.

But the party as a grand institution in the UK, they go back way before Labour. Even hearing Fuck the Tories being sung at football matches and at gigs. It's sad to see, it's not looking good for the election.

They won’t win the next election or the next one or the one after that. In 1997 it probably seemed inconceivable they’d win ever again but here we are in 2024 and they’ve been in power since 2010.

So? No political party has a god given right to exist. The Liberals used to be the main second party, now they are not.

Wow. Just wow.

Lol, if I were you I'd probably not say this shit out loud to people. There will be some who directly blame the current government for big suffering.

One of my favourite sayings is:

Politicians are like nappies: they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.

They get the God complex when they have been there too long. Thatcher, Bliar and Johnson are prime examples.

They then tried to undo the damage of their Covid mismanagement by going all-out to help Ukraine. Whilst I absolutely agree we should help Ukraine, it was so obvious that Boris was doing it mainly just to save his own skin, and it backfired for him in the end. Poor old Boris, he never got to make his announcement "it is with great pleasure that I am announcing the end of all Covid restrictions, never to return: I am a hero by handing you back your freedom, which was never mine to take away". By then, it was all Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. "One moment you're a criminal if you visit your own family, and the next, you're a hero for taking complete strangers into your home. I swear it will only be for six months, just like lockdown was only three weeks, I swore we could send the virus packing in twelve weeks, and I implicitly believed that all the events in number 10 were work events, and I will believe this until the day I die."

Are you quite well OP.

I believe feeling sorry for the tories is a medical emergency. You need to go to A&E straight away and tell them you seem to be talking out of your arse.

Oh no wait, your tories have fucked the NHS (and have also taken a huge dump over the country and left us struggling to survive, up to our necks in their shit)

So no, I DO NOT feel sorry for the scum of the earth that make up the tories. YABVU.

"They inherited a global financial crash which the western world is still to recover from".

This bit gives the game away. The intent of the OP is clearly satirical, as blaming the Labour party for exactly this global financial crash was the Conservative Party's standard party line for at least their first decade in power. The day the Tories publicly apologise and admit the financial crisis wasn't caused by the Labour government at the time is the day I might consider feeling the slightest twinge of pity for them.

Why is it sad to hear ‘fuck the Tories’ being sung? Yes, it’s rude, but isn’t protest and dissent a crucial part of our democratic right?

The Conservative Party was founded in 1834, 66 years before Labour was founded in 1900. They weren’t founded that long before Labour.

Also, how are they a ‘grand institution’? What do you mean by this? If they’re a ‘grand institution’, isn’t Labour one too?

When I see how many Tories and Tory Party donors are making big money out of our partly-privatised public services, I think there is no word for it other than corruption. The Tories seem to have spent the past 14 years asset-stripping the country. No wonder that nearly all of our public services are in a dire state - the NHS, Education, Social Services, the Police, the Justice System, local councils…. People are dying prematurely due to the current state of the NHS.

So, nope, no sympathy for the Tories whatsoever. And I hope those responsible for the PPE scandal will be prosecuted and jailed.

They are utter parasites and have completely ruined the country.

I don’t think the OP is saying specifically that Labour caused the economic crash. It is true that the Tories ‘inherited’ the crash, in the sense that the crash had happened before they came to power and they came in and had to deal with its effects.

Perhaps visit your local A&E and see how you feel about the Tories. They have decimated all that was good about this country, deliberately underfunding it and feathering their own nests. They also oversaw the worst handling of a pandemic, they have blood on their hands and they don't give a toss.
Sadly they will never suffer the punishment they deserve.

The sooner they are out of power the better.

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You reap what you sow.

I save my sympathy for the millions of people whose lives are significantly worse because of Tory policies.

Their woes are largely self inflicted though….

I couldn’t agree more with this.

More debt than the current shower of shite has managed despite "austerity" and cutting benefits left and right, really?

They're the world's most successful political party. Labour haven't even had that many years in power. The Liberal Party achieved more and Labour's rise coincided with their decline.

People can sing it all they like, but it shows a lack of respect for what they've achieved over the centuries.

Don't be daft OP.

When you've lived as long as I have you'll see that both the main Political parties in England go through peaks and troughs.

When one Party has been in power for around the 12 year mark it's usually time for a change because they become stale and complacent.

It's healthy for them to succumb to a landslide defeat, because then the Party reforms.

Make no mistake, Labour will win the next GE, Tories will reform in time, and will win a GE when the Public are tired of Labour.

And so on.