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Son offered 100% bursary, but suddenly wants to go to the local school - AIBU to overrule???

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Abettertime · 04/03/2024 19:13

Nervous about posting this for fear of flaming from the indie school haters but need some help!

My eldest child dreamed of private school. The local state provision is fine, but no frills and at the open day, the teachers seemed disinterested. They begged to try for a bursary at the local indie. I thought it was a very long shot but didn’t want to not allow them the opportunity to try, so entered them. They sat the exams, and did well enough (and we are poor enough) to be awarded a large bursary. They had a bit of a wobble and it was made clear that it was their decision, but guided on making decisions for their education rather than friends who may come and go. Two years on, and they are loving it. So happy with their decision. They are now flying very high academically, and having lots of exposure to things they would never normally have access to. In orchestra, rock band, dance class, all at no cost extra £ to us. They have loads of friends, partly due to the access to so many like minded people, and also have had excellent pastoral support through a long illness. Being on a bursary does not hinder them; they have plenty of army kid friends who from similar backgrounds, and also some very wealthy friends. It’s a genuine non-issue.

Whilst eldest has been at said school, middle child has been very clear that they will join them. Gave reasons of, lot of work but the education is so much better. Has seen what the school has to offer and was very impressed at open days. Did private prep at home to prepare; was clearly up for going. Asked lots of questions over what would happen if he didn’t get a bursary (which were all pretty much avoided or answered with - cross that bridge type response). Sat the exam (and for only this school; he was clear he would not go to any other if he got in). Worried that he failed, but instead got in and offered 100% bursary, due to doing well in the exam. He immediately said, I might not go…

We initially entertained, hoping he’d come round. Dear reader, he has not. He is now adamant that he wants to go to the local school, but will give no reasons. He is not popular at school; he has two friends, one of which is going to a school out of area, and the other will go the same school, but a different year. He is a bright child who is engaged in everything, there are many clubs which will appeal to him. He would like to work in tech when he’s older. The private school has double IT lessons every week, plus further coding clubs. The state has a 6 week provision every year. Conversations about this go nowhere.

We are now at stalemate, and after telling him that he needed to go, this has become unpleasant. We have explained that he won’t get another chance as bursaries are only available at this entry point, we can discuss after a couple of years, this is the opportunity of a lifetime, and it’s like a lottery win. His viewpoint is, he wants to go to the local school and we said he could choose. (It was up to him if he sat the exam.) We have explained that we thought we would allow that, but now that he has, we realise that it’s the wrong decision in our eyes, and we are not ok with it. Explained that even adults make mistakes, and apologized for making this mistake, but were not about to let him make a bigger mistake.

He is closed to more discussion. We are concerned that if he goes to the local state, as an adult he will regret that we allowed an 11 y old to make such a huge decision. Or sooner; if he wanted to go in a year or two it would be impossible due to lack of bursary. We are also concerned however that if we force him to go to the indie, he will deliberately hate it (he is massively stubborn) and not engage, setting in bad habits which might be set even if he moved.

So. AIBU to force him to the private school? To be clear, if both children were at the local state, it wouldn’t be such an issue. I don’t discredit state schools; if my daughter hadn’t read so much Enid Blyton she would be at the local state now. We always knew he would get in as the bar is fairly low. I was very stressed about the bursary issue but prepared to sell the house in order to make sure both children were treated fairly.

Advice desperately needed!!!!!

OP posts:
Edmontine · 04/03/2024 19:18

Haven’t read properly yet - but why have you posted this in AIBU?

You could have attracted calm and knowledgable responses on the Secondary Education board …

toomuchfaff · 04/03/2024 19:18

I think I'd be trying a little bit of a reverse on the pushing as that may be cementing him in position and instead trying to find out why he is so vehemently opposed to private school when it can offer him so many opportunities. When you find out the why; you can start to address those (with a view to getting him in private school, but him being involved in that decision), nothing worse than feeling like a passenger in your own life.

AlphabetSpwp · 04/03/2024 19:20

Edmontine · 04/03/2024 19:18

Haven’t read properly yet - but why have you posted this in AIBU?

You could have attracted calm and knowledgable responses on the Secondary Education board …

Edited

So you haven’t bothered to read the post and still reply?

Its on AIBU as the OP is asking whether they’re being unreasonable

Hacksaw · 04/03/2024 19:21

Sometimes you do just have to be the adult. If you believe it is best for him absolutely you should overrule him imo. But I would be really trying to find out why this school is a problem. Has he heard bad things from his brother?

Edmontine · 04/03/2024 19:22

Of course I’ve glanced through it - and crucially I have vast experience in this area, which is why I opened it in the first place. I just haven’t given the issue much thought yet - I’m listening to The Archers …

RoadToPlants · 04/03/2024 19:23

I’d just tell him he is going and that is the end of it. You’re the parent, you make the decisions, and whilst you take his views on board, in this instance he is absolutely going to that school. End of.

EweCee · 04/03/2024 19:24

I’d be taking the stance of try the indie first and if you don’t like it, and can give robust reasons why, you can switch in state in a year. However, that’s not an option that would work the other way round hence starting in the indie first.

ArsMamatoria · 04/03/2024 19:24

You say he thought he'd failed the entrance test, when he actually did well enough to warrant a 100% bursary. Imposter syndrome? Is he perfectionist and anxious that he might not live up to his promise? X

Chylka · 04/03/2024 19:24

I’d say he must try it for year 7 - because he can’t try the other school and then still have this option on the table. And you can reassess.

Quartz2208 · 04/03/2024 19:25

I would explain to him although it is his relief as parents you are there to guide him through the choice. Set out what you think are the advantages of going and disadvantages or not. Then ask him to clearly explain why he doesn’t want to abd tell him if the reasons why are sound you will respect his choice (because of he has proper reasons you have to) but that if it is because of things such as being scared whether he will fit in, whether he deserves it etc you can reassure him on that front

SecondUsername4me · 04/03/2024 19:25

I've said to my dc if they hate their new school at the end of Year 7, we will move them. However, we are the adults so we make the decision First on where they go.

PuttingDownRoots · 04/03/2024 19:26

Ask him to come up with a list of pros and cons for both schools, to see if you can work out his reasoning.

MadamVastra · 04/03/2024 19:27

Indie makes my teeth itch

Seagrassbasket · 04/03/2024 19:30

I would either say he had to go for a year and then reassess as others have suggested, or that unless he comes up with a credible reason why he doesn’t want to go then he has to go. It’s very strange he won’t tell you why!! Could his older sibling have discouraged him in some way?

456pickupsticks · 04/03/2024 19:31

Not unreasonable at all!

The main reason (and the one you should tell him), is that he can feasibly move to the state school if he's truly miserable at any point, but he will never be able to move to the private school if he doesn't start there. [You could even say you'll set a deadline to evaluate and if he is miserable you'll move him, I'd say you want at least half a year to settle in properly]

Saying that, you're definitely better off getting him enthused about going beforehand! Some suggestions:

  • Arrange for him and you to have a tour round the school
  • See if he can go for a visit day (before any induction days next term)
  • See if there's any concerts or performances you can go and watch
  • See if there's any holiday clubs you could sign him up for so he can meet some pupils before starting (here lots of the private schools have different private companies come in and run holiday clubs within the school, but anyone can sign up to go, there's usually a good split between pupils and non-pupils)
  • Ask him to write himself in year 11 a letter, with what he hopes to have done at school and gotten out of school generally. Then go through and see how the school would facilitate this.
I'd also say it might be worth going for a tour or visit day at the state school too, just to compare, and also show him that you're considering it as an option for his future.
wonderstuff · 04/03/2024 19:32

I would tell him he is going unless he can come up with a very good reason not to. Certainly would want him to do at least a year before deciding it wasn’t working.

Will he be able to get a place at the local school if he is unhappy?

Soubriquet · 04/03/2024 19:35

I would be the parent in this situation and tell him he has to go to private. If after say 6 months he is truly miserable, then he can change schools

Kidswhowouldhavethem · 04/03/2024 19:35

I was your son 40 years ago . I got a bursary to a private school,i had been in the prep and had passed 11+ and got into our local grammar. My parents sent me to the private school and I had the most miserable time ,hated it ,hated the nuns and didn’t work,got suspended a few times and left with cookery Olevel …have still got the certificate 😂
I went to our local 6th form college and got 7 OLevels grade As .

RainbowFlutter · 04/03/2024 19:38

Honestly, overrule. Gavel down. Case closed.

Imagine him as an adult. If he had a bad time in state school, it'll be your fault. If he had a bad time in the other school, it'll also be your fault. But I think most adults would better understand your position with the private school.

Best of luck

CormorantStrikesBack · 04/03/2024 19:38

Soubriquet · 04/03/2024 19:35

I would be the parent in this situation and tell him he has to go to private. If after say 6 months he is truly miserable, then he can change schools

This, but maybe a year. See how he feels at the end of the first year.

thesleepyhoglet · 04/03/2024 19:38

I would say, OK, yes if that's your decision...whilst privately accepting the place. Maybe he just needs to feel some control. I would then hope that he came round. If he didn't, there is no way I would turn down the private school 100% bursary place.

Notwhatyouwanttohear · 04/03/2024 19:40

It's all well and good people saying your the adult make him go.

There's a good chance he will down tools if you force him to go and he will end up in a worse position than if he just went to the state school.

Dontforgetthesalamander · 04/03/2024 19:41

I'm not quite sure i understand giving an 11 year old so much choice in his school. He's simply not mature enough to understand the implications.

saveforthat · 04/03/2024 19:46

MadamVastra · 04/03/2024 19:27

Indie makes my teeth itch

Yeah what does it mean? I thought it was a music genre

Lotyw · 04/03/2024 19:48

I’d be making him try it for at least a year, if he hates it he can go to the local but if he goes to the local first and hates it he’s up shit creek.

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