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AIBU?

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Who's at fault here?

215 replies

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 05:09

I have asd , I'm hyper sensitive to noise , lights, movement etc. Dh knows this. I also have a long term back problem due to an accident I had 15 years ago, my back can go into spasm if I get jolted or twist suddenly. This happens often unfortunately.

Last night dh was getting our son ready for bed and I was doing jobs. I finished and ds was still in bath so I decided to lay on my bed for five minutes with my book. I was laid on my front not facing the door. Dh shouts ready from ds room. I read another page, dh came in to wash his hands and I said 'I'm coming' I finished my page and dh shouted my name loudly from the doorway. I jumped as it frightened me and because I was on my front my back seized.

Ds who's 8 came in and cuddled me and helped me get up. He asked dh if he had said sorry dh said he had (neither ds or I heard it so I don't think he did) I was reading ds a story and trying not to cry as I was in so much pain.

We got through bedtime and went downstairs, dh said are you ok ? and I said not really. He gave me a hug, I started to say I know he didn't mean for me to hurt myself but it's not nice to shout at people. He immediately got angry and said it wasn't his fault as I should have come as soon as he called and he wouldn't have had to shout. He then proceeded to not speak to me for the evening.

The thing is I understand it's annoying I didn't come straight away, but it was literally a minute or two and he was still doing jobs. And he didn't shout to get my attention, he shouted when he was about 6 foot away from me so to me the making me jump was deliberate although I assume he forgot about my back.

I think it was a shitty thing for him to do and more shitty not to apologise properly. Aibu?

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paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:03

Brandnewskytohangyourstarsupon · 02/03/2024 05:49

This reminds me of that Katherine Tate sketch with the screaming woman.

It sounds like a lot of hard work in your house, lots of egg shells around you.

I don’t know, he shouldn’t have raised his voice/shouted, you need not have reacted so very dramatically and your poor child in the middle of this sounds conditioned to your world.

My back seized. Has that ever happened to you?

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Spirallingdownwards · 02/03/2024 08:05

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paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:05

Tourmalines · 02/03/2024 06:13

I also agree with others about getting your son involved. Why did he need to ask your husband if he had apologised ? I guess because you were dissing him to your dear son . Not good .

My son so has asd and is super focused on right and wrong. He knows to say sorry when he's in the wrong but equally expects the same of others. I don't slate my dh to my children and he wouldn't understand if I did .

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paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:06

HomeTheatreSystem · 02/03/2024 06:37

I was laid on my front not facing the door. Dh shouts ready from ds room. I read another page, dh came in to wash his hands and I said 'I'm coming' I finished my page and dh shouted my name loudly from the doorway.

If you mistyped the order of events such that you actually responded immediately he said "Ready" then YANBU. But what you wrote suggests you took your time about acknowledging him. He will not know if you were ignoring him or didn't hear him, hence the shout. You've both contributed to the problem.

I said coming twice

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Sirzy · 02/03/2024 08:07

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:06

I said coming twice

So surely you can appreciate why he got a bit frustrated and called your name?

Spirallingdownwards · 02/03/2024 08:07

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:05

My son so has asd and is super focused on right and wrong. He knows to say sorry when he's in the wrong but equally expects the same of others. I don't slate my dh to my children and he wouldn't understand if I did .

So did he ask whether you had said sorry to DH because you were in the wrong too? Especially as he expects people in the wrong to say sorry.

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:07

Spirallingdownwards · 02/03/2024 06:44

It sounds like a lot of nonsense over nothing.

Shouting I'm coming when you had no intention of actually coming but every intention of finishing up when you wanted os equally as rude as someone shouting your name again to get your attention.

Why on earth mention that your 8 year old didn't hear DH say sorry. This suggests you tried to involve your child in a petty squabble which is far worse than either of the 2 things ie. ignoring DH/him shouting. Don't involve your child in your arguments. The fact you did this tends to make me believe you were the one more in the wrong and look for drama where there is none

If ds had heard him say sorry he wouldn't have asked him if he had apologised. There was no discussion. Ds is very black and white.

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paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:09

TinkerTiger · 02/03/2024 06:47

Are you having treatment for your back? Sounds quite dramatic to have it seize at being startled.

Yeah physio and I do Pilates, yoga and go to the gym. I've had scans, X-rays etc and been told there's nothing they can do. It's got significantly worse in past couple of years

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MumMumMumMumMumMumMum · 02/03/2024 08:09

pensione · 02/03/2024 08:02

Because he shouted at her, that made her jump and her back to seize up. She doesn’t even say she was frightened, you made that up.

She’s now in pain and for you to say she’s laying it on thick is typical woman blaming

Edited

Op literally says she was frightened in her post but ok 🤣

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:09

pensione · 02/03/2024 06:48

I can’t believe this replies. As DH was getting DS ready for bed, why couldn’t he get ds out of the bath? Why do they need you too? Especially with your bad back?

Too many people are quick to blame the women when the man should be able to handle basic tasks himself.

He meant ready for story. Ds was in pjs by that point. There was no rush

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Spirallingdownwards · 02/03/2024 08:11

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:07

If ds had heard him say sorry he wouldn't have asked him if he had apologised. There was no discussion. Ds is very black and white.

Your husband was not in the wrong. Your child wasn't even there. For your child to believe he needs to say sorry for something can only be because you made a fuss causing your child to think DH was in the wrong.

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:11

MississippiAF · 02/03/2024 06:58

If DH was lying on the bed reading when I was doing bathtime, and insisted on finishing pages before answering, I wouldn’t be amused.

‘I’m coming’ when you aren’t is massively irritating

Edited

True . I wasn't feeling well (I also have a UTI currently) normally I wouldn't lay down five minutes before bed

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paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:14

AhBiscuits · 02/03/2024 06:58

I don't think he did anything wrong. He tried to get your attention and accidentally made you jump. He didn't do it on purpose and couldn't have know it would make you hurt your back.

I agree he couldn't have known it would hurt my back and I don't think he intended it to at all. But he quietly walked until about 6 foot away (in the door entrance) and loudly shouted. Knowing I'm sensitive to noise. He knew it would frighten me.

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pensione · 02/03/2024 08:15

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:11

True . I wasn't feeling well (I also have a UTI currently) normally I wouldn't lay down five minutes before bed

Why couldn’t your DH do bedtime, OP?

MyLottie · 02/03/2024 08:15

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:06

I said coming twice

So you said coming twice. But between the two times, you carried on reading your book?

Your DH thought you'd be coming to your son after the first time you said 'coming'. But you didn't?

Lovingitallnow · 02/03/2024 08:16

If you think your dh shouted at you to frighten you then you have big issues in your marriage. In that situation my dh would do the exact same. He'd be annoyed that he'd called me and I said I was coming twice (a lie clearly) and not shifting, he'd 100% shout out of exasperation. But I'd never think it was to frighten me. Second issue is he says he said sorry and you think he's lying.

It doesn't matter how stranger on the internet behave with one another, the key point here is you think your husband is trying to frighten and is lying. That's something to consider more.

Also to consider is your black and white son immediately thought dh was in the wrong for shouting but you're not in the wrong for lying. My 7 year old is a big one for being black and white about me saying "just give me a second" because I'm clearly longer than a second.

GlitteryEars · 02/03/2024 08:17

@paininthebac please bear in mind that most of these replies don't come from a place of understanding anything about being autistic.

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:17

Midnlghtrain · 02/03/2024 06:59

Did he think you'd fallen asleep because you were on your front facing away from the door and attempting to rouse you?

Tbh I think PP have covered most of the reasons it seems that YABU for!

Are you having any treatment for your back? I've got back issues and really find strengthening my core has helped massively. Id be worried for your back if someone making you startled when you're lying on your front can put it into a full spasm, how is it feeling this morning?

Thank you I am also trying to strengthen my core. It got worse a couple of years ago and is definitely improving.

Better this morning but still aching. I've stretched it last night and again this morning. I did not sleep well tho.

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MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 02/03/2024 08:18

WhingeInTheWillows · 02/03/2024 06:04

I think I might’ve shouted your name too, not to scare but to finally get you moving. Your poor DS, it sounds like he is conditioned to fuss around you.

This especially querying if 'dad has said sorry yet' which sounds like dad is frequently having to apologise to op.
You jumped said your back hurts now and he's to apologise?

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:19

Missymooo322133 · 02/03/2024 07:20

Him waiting a minute or 2 probably seemed a lot longer to him as he was dealing with your son. He probably shouted it with frustration and completely forgot about your back, he probably didn't realise you were lying on your front either. It sucks you got hurt but he hugged you and then got on the defensive cause you implied he's just shouting for no reason probably

Fair point

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OctopussyBond · 02/03/2024 08:20

I always have to be shouted at when I'm reading. I always block everyone out. Sounds like you do similar. But yes, you were in the wrong.

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:21

whyalltheusernames · 02/03/2024 07:32

Why does it take two of you to bath and put to bed an 8 year old?
And from what you wrote it does come across as you basically ignored him to continue reading, replied and then continued reading.
He raised his voice to get your attention not to purposely hurt you.

He has asd and developmental delays. We have a routine that dh does the getting ready for bed then I read the story. They weren't ready btw. Ds needed to arrange his bed (don't ask!)

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MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 02/03/2024 08:21

paininthebac · 02/03/2024 08:14

I agree he couldn't have known it would hurt my back and I don't think he intended it to at all. But he quietly walked until about 6 foot away (in the door entrance) and loudly shouted. Knowing I'm sensitive to noise. He knew it would frighten me.

Do you're confirming he purposely wants to intimidate and frightening you?

Do you need help to leave him?

OldRyanGoose · 02/03/2024 08:24

As a fellow back pain sufferer I can appreciate how fragile you must feel and how the pain can overwhelm you and cloud your emotional reactions. From your point of view he did something unthoughtful which triggered an acute bout of pain. From his point of view he was frustrated that you said you were coming but stayed lying down reading.

Neither of you are right or wrong, it's not a black or white situation. You were both frazzled, you by pain, him by frustration, maybe tiredness, we don't know.

As a side note, I was told by my consultant and physiotherapist not to lie on my front. It's the worst position for the spine as it doesn't provide any support. I hope that your pain has eased overnight and that you can enjoy the weekend.

pinkpale · 02/03/2024 08:24

You're being too precious, OP. Prioritize your family at that moment instead of reading a book. Time for yourself later.
Maybe your DH is fed up of doing the lions share whilst you lie down reading.
Maybe...?