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AIBU?

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My family/friends telling me to stay away from partner

323 replies

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 11:08

My family and friends really dislike my partner. I met him in 2016 and we were together for 4 years. The pandemic hit us hard and we ended. He moved away, we didn't speak for almost three years until he came back to apologise. He's been in therapy, he's made life changes and is doing well. I ignored him at first but after some thought I replied. We spoke back and forth for three/four months until I agreed to meet. All my feelings came flooding back. We are long distance (due to him moving away) and are taking it slow. I believe he has changed. I saw a therapist when we broke up as I wasn't in a good place. He is 40 and I am 35. He was very emotionally unavailable throughout the relationship, but not a 'bad person', never aggressive but perhaps immature.

I didn't tell anyone else until we had been seeing one another for a while. And since I have the burden and pressure from them feels huge. My Mum (who I'm very close to) especially.

They think he 'emotionally abused' me in the past by pushing what he wanted, especially with regards having children. I had an accidental pregnancy two years in and he reacted badly saying he never wanted children. In hindsight I should have had that conversation with him sooner. He left me as I wanted to keep our baby, I had a miscarriage at 12 weeks (quite traumatic) and he came back. He now says he wants children and doesn't know why he reacted that way.

They didn't like how he made very little effort with my loved ones. Made excuses (and some white lies) to get out of seeing them. He didn't seem to prioritise me, sometimes he would even forget plans we had made. My friends also saw him speak quite badly to his Mum and sisters at times.

He was a very solo thinker, it took a long time to move in together and even then he seemed to be dreaming up buying houses in areas he wanted to live in that wouldn't have suited my life or my job. He would hide little bits about me, harmless things really.

He has apologised to me for all of the above. He said he was really scared and didn't want to commit, therapy has helped him with that and he's changed.
My Mum has told me clearly that if I am with him that she doesn't want him to be a part of their lives. He won't be invited for family events/Christmases etc. The time around the miscarriage really upset not just me, but my loved ones. They saw the multiple disappointments and upset ness and many of them think I am now being blind. I'm willing to give him a chance but the negativity surrounding it is becoming hard to stand. He says he will show them he has changed, but he also admits it causes him stress.

I just need someone outside perspective to wonder AIBU to give him a chance.

OP posts:
Strugglingtodomybest · 01/03/2024 11:10

I'm sorry that you're going through a hard time. Have you considered that the way your mum has reacted is also emotionally abusive?

SoundOfTheUnderground1 · 01/03/2024 11:14

Hard truth?
He doesn't love you, he's only back because no-one else wanted him.
Love yourself, expect better.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 01/03/2024 11:16

@AliPineNeedles come on!! why are you even asking this??? your family have given you perfectly good advice yet you still want to go after this man!! your family is correct. stay away from him. he will only bring you more grief further down the line!

Remeniss · 01/03/2024 11:17

Sounds like you did a lot of work to move on.
it’s great that he’s changed but that doesn’t undo the damage he did to you.
your family are being objective and you are being led with emotion.
we are drawn back to people who traumatise us because we want to rewrite the past.
this person wasn’t good for you, nothing will change that.
would you say your family usually have your best interests at heart and care for you? If yes, follow their advice, something better is waiting for you.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/03/2024 11:19

I think it's very telling that it is multiple family members who are worried about him being back in your life.

CrunchyCarrot · 01/03/2024 11:19

I'm going to go with your family's feelings on this. Even if he has changed, it may still not be enough, and it's easy to start to drift back into old ways. Honestly I'd say you are better to move on from him.

Thegoodbadandugly · 01/03/2024 11:21

Your family and friends will not be wrong, please heed their advice.

faxnoink · 01/03/2024 11:23

You are being very unreasonable. He left you when you were pregnant. That's not 'scared', that's just a bad person.

I think you may need therapy op. Truly I can't understand how you can't see this for what it is. Your mum loves you and is very worried for you.

KellyanneConway · 01/03/2024 11:24

Your mum is putting boundaries in place to protect you and her family from more upset and disappointment. Why is this on her? She has been the one who has been there for you during the bad times. Has this man come up with a plan to build bridges with your family, address previous abusive and unsupportive behaviour and a specific timeline for children? Seeing this in place and play out will let you know if he’s genuine or not, if you are willing to potentially waste more time on him. If there’s no practical plan around how he’s going to make this right then he’s full of bullshit and you are port in whatever shitstorm his life has been over the past few years. I hope you make the right decision for you

Nohousemove · 01/03/2024 11:24

There is a reason everyone in your life thinks the same. There are literally millions of better men out there.

pikkumyy77 · 01/03/2024 11:26

F

MissLou0 · 01/03/2024 11:28

Thegoodbadandugly · 01/03/2024 11:21

Your family and friends will not be wrong, please heed their advice.

It’s not always as simple as that. My parents loved my abusive narcissistic boyfriend because he could turn on the charm, hated my nice shy boyfriend because he was “boring” “unfriendly” “made no effort with them” etc.

Her Mum sounds very emotionally immature, threatening to have no relationship with her own daughter. Surely if she believes this man is going to treat her daughter badly she’d want to be around even more to protect her.

Singleandproud · 01/03/2024 11:29

Why do you actually want to be with him?
What do you get out of the relationship with him?
Are you lonely, is it because he is familiar?
Does he challenge you and push you out of your comfort zone in a supportive way? Does he champion your goals and future plans?
Does he make your life better?
Does he care for you, would he look after you if sick or disappear again?

He doesn't sound like a good person just because someone isn't aggressive it doesn't make them a good partner.

Your friends and family are right, you should have learnt your lesson the previous times you broke up and got back together, being on your own is far better than being someone's toy of the month to pick up and put down as they see fit.

MissLou0 · 01/03/2024 11:30

Nohousemove · 01/03/2024 11:24

There is a reason everyone in your life thinks the same. There are literally millions of better men out there.

Once we hit our thirties most good men are off the market. That doesn’t mean she should stay with this guy but let’s not pretend the dating scene is good out there after your twenties.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 11:30

Hiding your things. Left you when pregnant. Even if he HAS changed, you shouldn’t forgive the previous behaviour. Thank him for what you’ve learned, then send him on his way. No contact. No kate night chats, and little texts.

GET OUT AND STAY OUT.

please.

Janpoppy · 01/03/2024 11:30

The way he treated you sounds bad. He didn't include you in his thinking or decision making and would forget plans you made and not tell you things?!! Those are not small things! It sounds like you are minimising and excusing some of his behaviour that is actually very problematic in a relationship.

His explanations of being "scared to commit" doesn't sound very convincing, and I would be concerned that he "doesn't even know why" he left you when you were pregnant.

From the outside he doesn't sound promising.

The reality is your family will have to pick up the pieces if he once again treats you poorly.

I think you can do much better. It sounds like you are drawing on hope and feelings rather than being clear about the red flags with this man.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 11:30

MissLou0 · 01/03/2024 11:30

Once we hit our thirties most good men are off the market. That doesn’t mean she should stay with this guy but let’s not pretend the dating scene is good out there after your twenties.

Utter tosh. Seriously nonsense.

StephanieSuperpowers · 01/03/2024 11:33

I feel that if his therapy had been entirely successful, he'd probably recognise the damage he's done to you, apologise and leave you alone. I see no evidence that your Mum should trust or accommodate him.

UnaOfStormhold · 01/03/2024 11:38

It's possible that he has changed but I think even if he has changed to the extent that he might be a good partner to someone else, I can't see how this relationship would work out for you because of your shared history. With the best will in the world you would both find it virtually impossible to avoid slipping back into old, unhealthy patterns. And if you want kids I think your time is best spent finding a new partner.

MissLou0 · 01/03/2024 11:38

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 11:30

Utter tosh. Seriously nonsense.

Based on what?! 😅 It’s just common sense. Think about men you know in real life we got into relationships in twenties vs ones who are single thirties and older? Do you think women who meet good men in their twenties are going to let them go?

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 11:39

Just to clarify; he didn't hide my things. He hid small details of his life, basic news.

My Mum is not talking about leaving my life. We are very close. She is making it clear however that she doesn't wish to be around him.

OP posts:
Mumsanetta · 01/03/2024 11:39

The fact that it’s not just your mum but is family and friends who are not supporting your reunion suggests that they are right. It is rare for a group of people to be united in their dislike for a partner if they don’t have a very good reason.

I think people can change elements of themselves but I do not believe wholesale changes are possible. He may have changed his mind about having kids, but, I think it’s unlikely that he has also changed his relationship with his own family, will make an effort with your family and is no longer a “solo thinker”. Maybe he could manage it for a couple of years but life takes a toll and he would likely slip back to his old ways whenever you are faced with challenges as a couple.

Even if he has changed, some things are unforgivable. You can accept his apology for how he treated you but that doesn’t mean you should forget just how damaging his behaviour was to you and your family and friends (who would have been there to pick up the pieces of you he left behind) and accept him back in your life. Be strong OP and do not be so frightened of a life alone that you will give up your peace and sanity for a man who will almost certainly revert back to type.

DyddDewiSant · 01/03/2024 11:41

Even if he has changed, you can't undo all that hurt and lies with a sorry. You will never be able to forget how he was, it will always be there.
Your family and friends are the ones who supported you, listen to them now.

ArchetypalBusyMum · 01/03/2024 11:43

I think your families concerns are well founded.
If it was my DD I might not go as far as blocking him from our lives but tolerating him would definitely be under sufferance!
Maybe in time, if he's improved, and prices himself I might thaw... But he's a looooong way away from making anyone who loves you think well of him and with beer very good reason.

Are you sure you want another roll of the dice with him?
If so, you'll need to accept their dismay is a consequence of his past behaviour.

Mrsttcno1 · 01/03/2024 11:48

Totally agree with your family, stay well clear of him.

Your family and friends are the ones who supported you and picked up the pieces the last time he fucked you over, they see what you clearly don’t.