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My family/friends telling me to stay away from partner

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AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 11:08

My family and friends really dislike my partner. I met him in 2016 and we were together for 4 years. The pandemic hit us hard and we ended. He moved away, we didn't speak for almost three years until he came back to apologise. He's been in therapy, he's made life changes and is doing well. I ignored him at first but after some thought I replied. We spoke back and forth for three/four months until I agreed to meet. All my feelings came flooding back. We are long distance (due to him moving away) and are taking it slow. I believe he has changed. I saw a therapist when we broke up as I wasn't in a good place. He is 40 and I am 35. He was very emotionally unavailable throughout the relationship, but not a 'bad person', never aggressive but perhaps immature.

I didn't tell anyone else until we had been seeing one another for a while. And since I have the burden and pressure from them feels huge. My Mum (who I'm very close to) especially.

They think he 'emotionally abused' me in the past by pushing what he wanted, especially with regards having children. I had an accidental pregnancy two years in and he reacted badly saying he never wanted children. In hindsight I should have had that conversation with him sooner. He left me as I wanted to keep our baby, I had a miscarriage at 12 weeks (quite traumatic) and he came back. He now says he wants children and doesn't know why he reacted that way.

They didn't like how he made very little effort with my loved ones. Made excuses (and some white lies) to get out of seeing them. He didn't seem to prioritise me, sometimes he would even forget plans we had made. My friends also saw him speak quite badly to his Mum and sisters at times.

He was a very solo thinker, it took a long time to move in together and even then he seemed to be dreaming up buying houses in areas he wanted to live in that wouldn't have suited my life or my job. He would hide little bits about me, harmless things really.

He has apologised to me for all of the above. He said he was really scared and didn't want to commit, therapy has helped him with that and he's changed.
My Mum has told me clearly that if I am with him that she doesn't want him to be a part of their lives. He won't be invited for family events/Christmases etc. The time around the miscarriage really upset not just me, but my loved ones. They saw the multiple disappointments and upset ness and many of them think I am now being blind. I'm willing to give him a chance but the negativity surrounding it is becoming hard to stand. He says he will show them he has changed, but he also admits it causes him stress.

I just need someone outside perspective to wonder AIBU to give him a chance.

OP posts:
tillytown · 01/03/2024 16:27

OK, I just reread your first post, it was you who went to therapy not him, he didn't even do that for you before he came running back. Block and move on.

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 16:28

Firstly, I am not trying to justify his past behaviour or argue with posters. I really am just trying to find my feet and make the best move forward.

He has asked me to go to couples counselling with him, he has told me that he truly believes he has changed and he doesn't recognise himself over those years. in terms of showing me with action; it's still early days but he has been there for me lately through some stressful times, he has been consistent in his actions. He is a better listener for sure.

OP posts:
HollyKnight · 01/03/2024 16:33

It's not a good idea to have joint therapy with an abuser because there is a risk that they will twist the narrative to gaslight you with the support of the therapist.

Why do you think he wants you back?

Ihadenough22 · 01/03/2024 16:37

Your 35 and this man is 40. He was abusive to you in the past. When you got pregnant he left you to deal with this on your own and he was in his 30's then.
You had a miscarriage. He was no where to be found then. Your mother and friends had to pick up the piece's when you went through this. You went to therapy as well to help you through this.

This man comes back into your life a few years later. He tells you he had therapy. He won't admit he was abusive in the past. Your mother has told you honestly how she feels about you and him being back together. Your friends have told you he is no good either.
Along with this you have your own business that's doing well and you have moved into a bigger apartment in London.

My feeling is that he left you and found out that other women saw through him early on. Yes he might have had some therapy. At 40 he should be able to say I made mistakes and I was abusive to you in the past. I feel that he is back with you because he has no other woman willing to take him on. He might like to live in London and you have a place ready for him to move into.

I know your 35 and perhaps you want a baby but this man does not want a child. He is telling you now what he knows you want to hear. As a friend of mine says talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words.
At this stage I would end things with him and listen to what you're mother and friends have said about him. I would do the freedom program as well to help you find a better relationship in the future.

PassingStranger · 01/03/2024 16:39

Don't know about your partner but your mum sounds awful.
She should support you, not make you choose.
She is making your life harder which you don't need.

She deserves kicking into touch and it's your life.

Mumsanetta · 01/03/2024 16:52

Not really sure what you’re looking for from this thread. The answer seems to be close to unanimous that you should not give the relationship another chance but you seem to be intent to “stand by your man” and believe he has changed - I mean, ok 🤷‍♀️

FreebieWallopFridge · 01/03/2024 17:06

If I was your family I’d be telling you the same thing

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 01/03/2024 17:23

PassingStranger · 01/03/2024 16:39

Don't know about your partner but your mum sounds awful.
She should support you, not make you choose.
She is making your life harder which you don't need.

She deserves kicking into touch and it's your life.

Her mum doesn't sound awful, she sounds concerned.

Her mum also isn't making her choose. Her mum is retaining a relationship with OP, just not her partner.

Have you ever been in a situation where you see someone in a toxic situation and nothing you can do or say will make them leave it? That's where her mum is.

LiveLaughCryalot · 01/03/2024 17:25

PassingStranger · 01/03/2024 16:39

Don't know about your partner but your mum sounds awful.
She should support you, not make you choose.
She is making your life harder which you don't need.

She deserves kicking into touch and it's your life.

How has her mother made her choose? Did I miss that post? Also, how can you not know about her partner, the OP went into detail describing how awful he was. It was her mother that picked up the pieces.

Tread carefully OP. What has he proposed to show your family and friends he has changed? What effort is he going to put in? I am worried he won't make any effort and will isolate you from those who don't like him.
I dont blame your mum one bit. It's agony watching your child in pain. She probably wants to bury her head in the sand.

Him having lots of friends means nothing. The most abusive, scummiest men tend to charm people around them. It's a massive reason why a lot of women feel they can't leave. How often do you read 'no one will believe me, everyone loves him'. You read it in nearly every single thread about an abusive man. Be careful.

beatrix1234 · 01/03/2024 17:35

Sounds like a desperate man whose GF dumped him and he needs supply and a nice apartment in London. Once you take him back and he has you hooked he’ll go back to his old tricks.

Starspangledrodeopony · 01/03/2024 17:39

He’s full of shit.

He wants in to your life so he can live in London and cash in on your new business.

Listen to your family.

Never, ever go backwards.

Don't be a complete fool.

beatrix1234 · 01/03/2024 17:43

Again: he’s being super nice and love bombing you with promises because he’s desperate for you to take him back, once that happens, you’re emotionally invested and pregnant watch his mask fall of.

SandyY2K · 01/03/2024 17:56

@AliPineNeedles
As a mother of daughters, I wouldn't want them to get back with someone who treated them as he treated you.

I just wouldn't. So, I can understand how you're mum feels.

Maybe he has changed, but I wouldn't want to take that chance.
Your mum is responding from a place of love.

Catopia · 01/03/2024 18:00

I can understand why your family and friends are worried about him. Do you really want this man - who left you when you were pregnant before, was not supportive and puts his own needs first without even considering yours - to be the father of your children? You deserve the best and I'm not even sure you've convinced yourself he is it. I can understand why your family will not forgive him for what happened, and I am not sure I understand why you are prepared to.

Boomer55 · 01/03/2024 18:05

I’d listen to your family. Your mum sounds very concerned.

NotNowGertrude · 01/03/2024 18:14

Sorry but in reality people rarely change

You split up for a reason. That reason will still be there

You should shut this down not entertain it

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 18:46

I find it very hard to accept that's it was emotional abuse. It's as if I see the chemistry, the connections, the history. I don't know how to tell myself it's abuse and not just mistakes he made.

I also think a part of me feels sorry for him and how he wants to change, which maybe is also due to bad treatment.

OP posts:
GlitteryEars · 01/03/2024 18:59

Look up trauma bonding

Catsfrontbum · 01/03/2024 19:41

Can you give any specific examples?

Catsfrontbum · 01/03/2024 19:42

Things that you think after the fact….oh that wasn’t great.

We don’t know him. But you do. And you have misgivings. So question that.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 19:52

HE LEFT YOU WHEN YOU WERE PREGNANT.

Catsfrontbum · 01/03/2024 19:56

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 19:52

HE LEFT YOU WHEN YOU WERE PREGNANT.

exactrly.

beetr00 · 01/03/2024 20:09

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 14:32

I'm going to ask a very basic question - how can I know if I was emotionally abused?

https://psychcentral.com/lib/emotional-abuse-signs#signs-of-emotional-abuse

Recognise any of this?

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 20:16

Thank you for sending that @beetr00. I recognise neglect at the time, dismissing things like my career not being good enough or my friends not being people he had anything in common with. I'm not sure if this is a trait of it but he would leave/come back/leave/come back, saying he got cold feet. He would hot and cold me a lot. Would either show up happy and loving or be distracted on his phone all night.

Never anything like withdrawing me from loved ones or monitoring me.

I always thought 'abuse' was such a huge term. Used for very serious situations, not a boyfriend being emotionally unavailable or not putting me first.

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FreebieWallopFridge · 01/03/2024 20:24

Whether you choose call it abuse or not, he treated you like absolute crap. That’s the point. Some of the things he did should be unforgivable.

You need to take a step back and think about why you’re so willing to let those things go.

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