Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

My family/friends telling me to stay away from partner

323 replies

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 11:08

My family and friends really dislike my partner. I met him in 2016 and we were together for 4 years. The pandemic hit us hard and we ended. He moved away, we didn't speak for almost three years until he came back to apologise. He's been in therapy, he's made life changes and is doing well. I ignored him at first but after some thought I replied. We spoke back and forth for three/four months until I agreed to meet. All my feelings came flooding back. We are long distance (due to him moving away) and are taking it slow. I believe he has changed. I saw a therapist when we broke up as I wasn't in a good place. He is 40 and I am 35. He was very emotionally unavailable throughout the relationship, but not a 'bad person', never aggressive but perhaps immature.

I didn't tell anyone else until we had been seeing one another for a while. And since I have the burden and pressure from them feels huge. My Mum (who I'm very close to) especially.

They think he 'emotionally abused' me in the past by pushing what he wanted, especially with regards having children. I had an accidental pregnancy two years in and he reacted badly saying he never wanted children. In hindsight I should have had that conversation with him sooner. He left me as I wanted to keep our baby, I had a miscarriage at 12 weeks (quite traumatic) and he came back. He now says he wants children and doesn't know why he reacted that way.

They didn't like how he made very little effort with my loved ones. Made excuses (and some white lies) to get out of seeing them. He didn't seem to prioritise me, sometimes he would even forget plans we had made. My friends also saw him speak quite badly to his Mum and sisters at times.

He was a very solo thinker, it took a long time to move in together and even then he seemed to be dreaming up buying houses in areas he wanted to live in that wouldn't have suited my life or my job. He would hide little bits about me, harmless things really.

He has apologised to me for all of the above. He said he was really scared and didn't want to commit, therapy has helped him with that and he's changed.
My Mum has told me clearly that if I am with him that she doesn't want him to be a part of their lives. He won't be invited for family events/Christmases etc. The time around the miscarriage really upset not just me, but my loved ones. They saw the multiple disappointments and upset ness and many of them think I am now being blind. I'm willing to give him a chance but the negativity surrounding it is becoming hard to stand. He says he will show them he has changed, but he also admits it causes him stress.

I just need someone outside perspective to wonder AIBU to give him a chance.

OP posts:
FictionalCharacter · 01/03/2024 13:04

Listen to your family. They can see through him.

TooManyCheesecakeCalories · 01/03/2024 13:06

You. Deserve. Better.

Mumsanetta · 01/03/2024 13:08

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 12:32

I find that an interesting take that people have that if he had changed why would he want to come back. I think he wants to show himself and people around us how he has changed. He keeps telling me how proud he is that he has me back in his life and how grateful he is.

So it’s not about you at all then, it’s about showing everyone else how he has changed. He really hasn’t changed at all and I’m worried that you can’t see that.

saraclara · 01/03/2024 13:10

This man left you needing therapy

Have you spoken to the same therapist about going back to him? Because you should.

lanesra01 · 01/03/2024 13:12

Would you want your future husband/baby’s father to be actively liked by your mum and friends …?!

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 13:12

Thank you.

He describes his past behaviour as feeling as though he was stuck/frozen but I'm not sure if that's just therapy buzzwords.

He is incredibly regretful. Obviously I have fears. I haven't been able to get a appointment with my previous therapist yet but I am on the waiting list.

OP posts:
AngelinaFibres · 01/03/2024 13:13

SoundOfTheUnderground1 · 01/03/2024 11:14

Hard truth?
He doesn't love you, he's only back because no-one else wanted him.
Love yourself, expect better.

You're also older so perhaps he is hoping your fertility will have waned or your experience with his behaviour last time regarding the pregnancy and your subsequent miscarriage mean that you will have been put off trying and he won't have to deal with actual real children.

Catsfrontbum · 01/03/2024 13:16

He sounds completely self absorbed.

If the therapy had helped him he would be able to say sorry and leave you be!

If it was just your mum then that’s one thing, but friends too. Nah sack him off.

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 13:19

He is saying he didn't come back to get back together, that he is totally amazed we're trying again.

I know I just sound like i'm trying to justify the past.

He also doesn't agree in anyway shape or form that it was emotional abuse.

OP posts:
Olivie12 · 01/03/2024 13:19

Just run!!!

You're 35! You have no time to waste with someone who already hurt you. He doesn't sound suitable for a long term relationship. Listen to all your family and friends.

The same happened to my sister, we all told her he wasn't good, a bad influence, nobody in the family accepted him, etc. she ended in an abusive relationship and it took her more than 20 years to get the courage to leave.

If he left you while pregnant, what else is he capable of? Don't waste your fertile years with him.

AngelinaFibres · 01/03/2024 13:20

AliPineNeedles · 01/03/2024 12:06

My relationship with my family is good, yes. My Mum and I are very close, we speak everyday and she brought me up as a single Mum but I now have a Stepdad and teenage brother. My Mum and I are both sensitive types. She is saying 'do whatever makes you happy, but I don't wish to hear about him'.

Presumably your mum, who obviously loves and supports you very much , had to pick up the pieces this man left behind last time. She has a husband and teenage son who need her too. I dare say she can see what's coming in the future ,and that it will be even worse this time, and she doesn't want you or her to go through it all again.People on the outside of your love bubble can see things you can't. Listen to them

KreedKafer · 01/03/2024 13:20

Your friends and family have watched him treat you like shit and mess with your head until you literally ended up up needing therapy, and now you're going back for more and will need their support all over again when he treats like you like the second time around.

He doesn't love you, he isn't a good man, he is manipulating you and he will never make you happy. Your family and friends are 100% correct and you would be mad to strike up a second relationship with this twat. Have some bloody self-respect and dignity.

KreedKafer · 01/03/2024 13:21

He is incredibly regretful

He really isn't.

saraclara · 01/03/2024 13:25

My friends also saw him speak quite badly to his Mum and sisters at times.

So multiple times he was rude or belittling to his mum and sisters? I wonder if he's being as effusive with apologies to them. And if they believe a word of it.

So your family AND your friends don't like or trust him. So why do you?

Fraaahnces · 01/03/2024 13:26

I think you are in a position to continually make him prove his words aren't empty and demand that he backs them up with action. If at any stage you start questioning your judgement or he guilt trips you for questioning him, you need to ensure that he is not gaslighting you and training you to expect less than you want or deserve.

AngelinaFibres · 01/03/2024 13:26

" He doesn't accept that what he did was emotional abuse".
He will do it all again . He isn't the only man on earth. He doesn't have a golden cock. He sounds like a nasty piece of work who has read some "useful things to say to get back with someone you've treated like shit". Perhaps he follows Andrew Tate type people online. I bet he's found a forum somewhere with people who say " tell them this. Women are so stupid it works everytime".

AngelinaFibres · 01/03/2024 13:29

Fraaahnces · 01/03/2024 13:26

I think you are in a position to continually make him prove his words aren't empty and demand that he backs them up with action. If at any stage you start questioning your judgement or he guilt trips you for questioning him, you need to ensure that he is not gaslighting you and training you to expect less than you want or deserve.

That's not a normal , loving, functioning relationship. It would send you insane.

bringbacksideburns · 01/03/2024 13:29

Listen to everyone.

Also, the way a man speaks to his own mother and sisters is very telling. You mentioned your friends saw the way he spoke to them.
Not good.

I don’t care how ‘frozen’ he felt. A grown man in his 30s doesn’t leg it when you are pregnant. Horrible.

Don’t settle for something you may very possibly regret.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 13:30

Fucks sake. He messed you about, something awful. He’s had therapy but can’t say why he did what he did. And he doesn’t accept he was abusive…

so he’s had time to have a look around and see that actually, you’re a better catch than he thought, and also blow smoke up his arse from the tone of your posts here, so he’s come back for more.

He will idealise you - for a while. Then start to devalue - little things that he shouldn’t do, that cut you down. And then as your anxiety increases, probably along with your isolation, discard you. AGAIN.

OP this is madness. Get away from him.

GrandKarber · 01/03/2024 13:31

Fraaahnces · 01/03/2024 13:26

I think you are in a position to continually make him prove his words aren't empty and demand that he backs them up with action. If at any stage you start questioning your judgement or he guilt trips you for questioning him, you need to ensure that he is not gaslighting you and training you to expect less than you want or deserve.

Shit advice. The chances of the OP having the strength and insight to do that, are minimal.

Maray1967 · 01/03/2024 13:33

I would have dumped any bloke in his thirties who told me he was ‘scared to commit’ - to me, that indicates poor character, and I can’t see that a bit of therapy changes that. He left you when you were pregnant. He wasn’t 19, he was in his thirties!!

Don’t waste any more time on him.

Strugglingtodomybest · 01/03/2024 13:33

Picklestop · 01/03/2024 12:43

I think your family and friends are correct and I applaud your mother for taking a stance. This man left you needing therapy, most people do not require that at the end of a relationship, even a very upsetting one. His treatment of you regarding the pregnancy is not forgivable.

I don't applaud her mum, she is acting in exactly the opposite way in which you are advised to act if you suspect that a friend or family member is in an abusive relationship.

What happens if the OP decides to go back to him, he turns out to still be abusive, and now he's also got her cut off from her family?

OP's mum is trying to emotionally manipulate OP, but it could end up backfiring on her.

GlitteryEars · 01/03/2024 13:34

@Strugglingtodomybest her mum hasn't said she would cut her off though. She said he wouldn't be welcome at family events.

beetr00 · 01/03/2024 13:36

@AliPineNeedles better the devil you know?

But some relevant questions you could ask yourself to untangle your feelings.

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/202107/fighting-the-temptation-go-back-emotional-abuser

pickledandpuzzled · 01/03/2024 13:36

It’s great that he has learned from his mistakes and knows he behaved badly.

Sadly he can’t undo the damage he caused first time around. He needs to do better somewhere else, and leave you alone. Several things that he did are beyond repair and forgiveness- as in, you can be happy for him but shouldn’t have him back in your life. You’ve made a big mistake.