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AIBU?

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To want to catch him in a clever way? Pls help

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badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:38

I think I have just discovered evidence that my husband is having an affair. Please bear with me as I explain the background - I want to be smart about how I confront him and how I make my next move, because I know he will deny it. So I’ve come here to ask for advice and ideas on how to do this. A big part of me just wants to blurt everything out but I know this might be my only chance to know the truth.

This starts all the way back in 2005!! Our kids were babies at the time. I’d had a suspicious feeling that something wasn’t right for a few months so I looked at his phone and found outrageously flirty texts with a woman at work. They were trying to arrange meeting up for a drink and he had actually checked one of the dates with me and told me he’d be going out with a mate. The texts including descriptions of what she was wearing, how she had fancied him and blushed whenever he spoke to her etc etc. I confronted him and he apologised and acted sorry - said he was having a moment of madness, would cancel the evening out with her and break off all contact. But he didn’t let me see the messages he sent to her in order to do this (yes I know this was crazy of me not to insist!!!!).

Three years later I received anonymous text messages telling me he was cheating. I never understood where they came from. He said he had no idea and someone was just trying to cause trouble.

So that brings me to 2024. We have been happily married, at least on the surface, for the last 6 years since those text messages. I have always had an uneasy feeling that he’s a flirt and needs attention from other women but have never known whether he would actually cheat.
Today I was using our shared laptop and he had left his emails open. I don’t even know why given it was YEARS ago, but I searched for that girl’s name. I found 3 separate occasions of him sending presents to her - all the same name and address. Chocolates, clothes and a book (the book actually hurt the most - it was a book about hormones that I have actually read myself. From the date, it looks as though he heard my recommendation and decided to send her one). I find a book about hormones to be a particularly intimate thing to send to someone.

first of all, AIBU to suspect a full blown and potentially long term affair ? If he’s been seeing her, it can’t ever involve overnight stays. He is never away. But I guess he could meet her during the day. Is there any other explanation for still being in contact with her after so many years and sending presents?

I would love advice on how I can play this to be sure before I confront him. How much should I admit I’ve seen?

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Snowdropsarecoming · 08/02/2024 16:40

You don’t need proof. Just present him with divorce papers.

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:40

Sorry I should have said - all three gifts have been sent in the last two years

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lesssugar · 08/02/2024 16:42

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SoupDragon · 08/02/2024 16:42

Why do you want to prove it?

if you don't trust him and have reason to suspect he is cheating then just divorce - it's no way to live.

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:42

I have seen so many friends go through this and it’s always worse when the truth isn’t admitted. I just want to give myself the best chance of getting the truth somehow.

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Ponoka7 · 08/02/2024 16:43

Did you email any evidence to yourself? Buying presents for someone who they were going to cheat with would be a deal breaker for most people.

KnowledgeableMomma · 08/02/2024 16:44

Yeah, that would be waaaay too much assholery for me to consider staying. I'd be getting all my ducks in a row.....getting paperwork together, hiring a lawyer, getting finances split. Then just let him come home to divorce papers when you have it all in order. He'll never know what hit him.

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BoohooWoohoo · 08/02/2024 16:44

Screenshot as much proof as you can. His initial reaction will be to deny and delete then tell you and everyone else that you are paranoid and crazy. You’ve seen the proof and know it’s real.

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:44

Re divorce - I’m not scared of it and financially I would be fine. So I don’t really need to worry about that side of things. We have more than one property and he could immediately move into the other one. But it will torture me forever if he just pretends nothing is going on and I’m crazy (which I think he will do).

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Catza · 08/02/2024 16:45

I don't think three gifts is a strong evidence of an affair... but I see where you are coming from.
What are you hoping to achieve with the conversation? Why do you think you need to know the truth and all the glorious detail of the incident(s). Personally, I wouldn't want that. It would send me into a spiral.
If you want a divorce, just say it to him. No need for him to know the reason.
If you want to reconcile, a simple "I am having difficulties with trusting you and it affects our marriage. Would you be open to couples' therapy" should do it.

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BubziOwl · 08/02/2024 16:46

aside from all this effort going in to some kind of dramatic show down you and your friends can laugh about…

What a nasty, unnecessary, and baseless comment

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MILTOBE · 08/02/2024 16:47

My ex had a long term affair. I guessed something was going on at the start (but couldn't prove anything) and then it seemed to die down. I didn't realise that the honeymoon phase and mentionitis had passed, but they were still seeing each other. I found out when I discovered a present he'd bought her.

Who is this woman, OP? Do they work together? Is she in a relationship?

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:47

I’ve screenshotted all three order emails. So I have the full proof that he’s sent 3 gifts to her (plus a follow up email he sent asking her name to be put on the package instead of his)

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Quitelikeit · 08/02/2024 16:47

Go to location settings on his phone. It will show you his regularly visited locations and when.

If he has this turned off just switch it on and wait a week or two.

Or track his car. Or go and watch the address where the gifts were sent to. You might catch him there

LenaLamont · 08/02/2024 16:48

You don't need to catch him at anything. It's won't benefit you in the slightest.

Just file for a divorce and kick his sleazy ass out.

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Why would needing to know if her husband is actually having an affair or not be soap opera? Am I missing something?

Nightblindness · 08/02/2024 16:50

What sort of clothes? That is the only gift I find suspicious. A book on hormones doesn't sound very sexy and chocolates are so generic. Perhaps she had a bereavement or special birthday and your dh was asked to buy them on behalf of colleagues.

Or maybe I am too trusting. I agree with others, if you have lost trust in him, you don't need proof or evidence. You just need a lawyer.

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:51

Thanks for the replies.
This woman actually lives about 100 miles away. So I don’t think location settings will show me that he ever goes to her house. I suspect she comes to London for work and they would meet then, if indeed they have been meeting. Or could he be sending gifts as some kind of weird long distance flirtation that was rekindled after years???? I’m still upset if so, but it’s clearly not as bad as an affair.

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LenaLamont · 08/02/2024 16:48

You don't need to catch him at anything. It's won't benefit you in the slightest.

Just file for a divorce and kick his sleazy ass out.

The desire to know what's happening in your own life is very strong and isn't in any way unreasonable.

badgergirl5 · 08/02/2024 16:51

Sorry for drip free but I’m all over the place. She no longer works with him - she moved to another location and company about 8 years ago.

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