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Ex BIL messaging me

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 14:49

NC for this.

Long story short, my sister and my ex BIL divorced around 6 years ago. All water under the bridge now, they don't have contact anymore, no kids together so a relatively straightforward separation. It was hard at the time as BIL had been a part of the family for a lot of years and I regarded him as more of a brother to be honest, so the separation was hard for the rest of the family but it was the right decision for my sister and we obviously stood by her as her family. I'm still friends with BIL on social media but no longer close, and in all honesty we have very little contact. I messaged him after his child was born to a new woman a couple years ago to congratulate him, and he replied thank you etc, but otherwise we don't generally speak.

Today I received a message from him out of the blue asking how I was. I replied that I was fine and asked about him etc, we had a pleasant exchange about our respective kids etc. All fine and pleasant. He then asked me if I knew why my sister was still using "his name", and that he'd discovered this recently and it bothered him. I said I didn't know why she had made this decision, and that it's not really anything to do with me, but I assumed it was because it was less hassle to keep her married name for practical reasons (my sister is a very pragmatic person). I explained this was likely the reason and he continued to state that this was "weird" and "wrong" and could I "suggest" to her that she should revert back to her maiden name. I said this wasn't my place and legally it's her name, and asked why it was a concern to him so many years down the line? He said that I wouldn't understand because I "hadn't been through it", but that this surname was "a part of him" and he didn't need the "constant reminder". Again, I asked how on earth he's being constantly reminded when he literally has no contact with my sister anymore? He couldn't answer this, just said "it's not her identity anymore, it's MY surname". I was going round in circles explaining to him that it was also in fact her legal surname to use as she wished and there was little he could do about that. He then stated that "there is only going to be one Mrs X soon and it's not her". I pointed out that there are many, many Mrs X's in the world and he didn't own the rights to that particular surname. I suggested he just focused on his new relationship/ wife to be and family and move on from what my sister chooses to do / not do. He then became defensive stating that "I don't care about her or what she does but I don't think this is right". I had to end the discussion as we were just going round in unhelpful circles and I was fed up of repeating myself.

I then spoke to my sister and she said he'd also been in touch with her recently out of the blue saying similar things, demanding to know why she wasn't changing her name. She said she told him she'd made a decision to keep the name she was known by in professional circles and just for ease. He was apparently unpleasant towards her so she ended up blocking him, hence he's now badgering her family members.

AIBU that this is just a ridiculous thing to for him to get wound up about? Why now, 6 years down the line is my sister's name suddenly an issue just because he's remarrying?! He surely cannot expect my sister to change her name just because he finds it "weird" and thinks its "not her identity"?! And also why is he bothering me with this?! I assume this has only become an issue because he's getting married again, but why should it matter? For context the surname is a very common one - think Smith / Jones - and so there'll be literally thousands of women with this name across the world and yet his new wife needs to be "the only one"?!

Aside from all of this, what has any of it got to to with me?! I wasn't even married to the guy!

The whole thing has just annoyed and baffled me and just wanted some outside perspectives! Thank you.

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PerfectTravelTote · 07/02/2024 14:53

I think you'll have to block him.

He's not going to let it go and it doesn't involve you

sunbeams74 · 07/02/2024 14:55

Just block him, he sounds like a fruit loop.

Minglingpringle · 07/02/2024 14:56

I agree with you about all of that. He should let it go and shouldn’t drag you into it.

This is just another demonstration of why I hate the tradition of women changing their names on marriage. He thinks it is his name and he was kind enough to lend it to her. He thinks it signifies that she belongs to him. And he’s not the only one.

sunlovingcriminal · 07/02/2024 14:56

God, what a thing for him to get het up about!

I still have the same surname as my ex H, and I do still see him as we have dc. He's never mentioned it.

We're both engaged to new partners- and I have no intention of taking my new dp's surname and will keep my old "married" surname, as, like your sister, I am known in professional circles by my name.

It's my name now, and has been for quite a long time- so it's mine to keep, not his to demand "off" me!

He needs to get other stuff to occupy his brain.

romdowa · 07/02/2024 14:57

Yanbu but I'd say it's not him who is bothered but the new Mrs to be. I made it very clear to my dh that once we where married and I took his name then it would be my name forever as I want the same name as our dc. I know plenty women who kept their married name after divorce even if they didn't have dc.

PossumintheHouse · 07/02/2024 14:59

He’s suddenly all wound up because the new wife-to-be did her snooping, found out, and now she’s giving him shit about it.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:01

PossumintheHouse · 07/02/2024 14:59

He’s suddenly all wound up because the new wife-to-be did her snooping, found out, and now she’s giving him shit about it.

Tbh my sister and I both suspect the same! It's not been an issue for 6 years and now all of a sudden it is? And also the comment about "there's about to be a new Mrs X and she's the only one" or whatever he said. Ridiculous!

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Sodndashitall · 07/02/2024 15:01

I think it can be quite an emotive topic. I know one chap who had an unusual surname which his exw took. She kept it and kept living in the same small town when they divorced.
When he years later got remarried it felt odd that his new wife would be the same Mrs xx as the ex and people knew the ex as rhe Mrs xx. So he actually changed his name to a completely different name along with his new wife! Problem solved!

MumOfOneAllAlone · 07/02/2024 15:02

He sounds mad 😄, like another poster said, it's because his new wife to be has been snooping and is pissed off.

nadine90 · 07/02/2024 15:04

I would just block him. There’s no point engaging with him. His fiancé is clearly giving him shit for it. It’s a shame for them that they are letting it take up headspace but that’s their problem, not yours x

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:04

@sunlovingcriminal

I actually said to him that my partner's ex wife still had his name until fairly recently when she remarried. We've been together for 9 years and she only changed her name from my partner's when she remarried about 3 years ago. Did it affect my life that she had my partner's name for 6 years of our relationship? Absolutely not! It's insanity, I can't get my head around the possessiveness over a surname. Surely it only has emotional significance if you allow it to? My sister has very pragmatic reasons for making her decision, so why let it affect him?!

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girlfriend44 · 07/02/2024 15:04

i can sort of see his point though and im suprised she dosent want to change her name.
why does she want a name she was only given because she married him?

You would have thought that she wouldnt have wanted his name.

toomuchfaff · 07/02/2024 15:04

hahahahaha I've heard this before, bloke getting wound up because the ex didn't revert HIS name.. usually accompanied by a mad new girlfriend about to become wife wanting to be the ONLY Mrs X...

Tell him it's none of your business, uts actually none of HIS business what name your sister goes by, in reality ANYONE, even you, your husband, your mother and your neighbours could change your name by deed pole to "his" name, he doesn't own a name. Then tell him you'll entertain no further discussions on this matter and block him if necessary.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:05

girlfriend44 · 07/02/2024 15:04

i can sort of see his point though and im suprised she dosent want to change her name.
why does she want a name she was only given because she married him?

You would have thought that she wouldnt have wanted his name.

She said she didn't want the hassle and professionally she's been known by that name for many years. Her LinkedIn profile uses that name and I suspect that's how BIL / the new partner has discovered this, because my sister isn't on any other social media.

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DeedlessIndeed · 07/02/2024 15:06

You can't take back "gifts".
If wife was "given" his name, then she can do what she bloody likes with it.

It's the sign of a bit of a pathetic man if he's this wound up.

Topseyt123 · 07/02/2024 15:06

Tell him that he is being an arsehole, that he doesn't own the rights to the name, that what your sister chooses to be known as is none of his business and that you too are blocking him.

Then just do it (block him). No need to engage with him at all. Also, remove him as a friend on social media. He isn't a friend, he's a complete twat. He can stew in his own juices over nothing if he wishes. It won't do him any harm and he'll live.

IncompleteSenten · 07/02/2024 15:06

Suggest to her that she tells him she'll do it for £10,000. Compensation for the hassle. 😁

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:07

I can't get my head around it, he honestly looks so happy on social media with his new partner and child, it just makes no sense why they'd waste headspace on this non issue!

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BigFatCat2024 · 07/02/2024 15:07

Well I'd guess that his wife to be has an issue with it, and that's why he's now getting arsey. I'd just block him

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:07

IncompleteSenten · 07/02/2024 15:06

Suggest to her that she tells him she'll do it for £10,000. Compensation for the hassle. 😁

😂

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YetMoreNewBeginnings · 07/02/2024 15:07

Your sister should tell him very firmly that her name is none of his business and she won’t hesitate to go down the harassment route if he continues.

I worked with a HT once who’d kept her name as it was the same as her children, then when they were adults she was known to the school community by it so kept it. Her ex husband used to message her once or twice a year still trying to persuade her even though she’d kept it for over twenty years by that point. He and his second wife were both furious.

GrumpyPanda · 07/02/2024 15:08

Tell him karma is a bitch. If he'd been less hidebound and had taken on her name on marriage he wouldn't be having this particular problem.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:09

The other thing he said was, "it affects my credit rating".... Eh?! Does it? I thought the fact that they were once married was the part that linked them financially, rather than the specific name?

Told my sister he'd said that, and she laughed her head off saying, "well tell him my credit score is fantastic so in that respect I'm only improving his image"😂

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beatrix1234 · 07/02/2024 15:09

If my ex husband went around using my surname as his I would be angry too and would NOT like it so I totally see where he’s coming from.

Bladwdoda · 07/02/2024 15:09

I’d suggest all the family block him and his partner and ignore any future messages. I’d also be clear if he doesn’t stop you’ll report for harassment.

sounds like a knob. I’d also suspect the new partner doesn’t like it.