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Ex BIL messaging me

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 14:49

NC for this.

Long story short, my sister and my ex BIL divorced around 6 years ago. All water under the bridge now, they don't have contact anymore, no kids together so a relatively straightforward separation. It was hard at the time as BIL had been a part of the family for a lot of years and I regarded him as more of a brother to be honest, so the separation was hard for the rest of the family but it was the right decision for my sister and we obviously stood by her as her family. I'm still friends with BIL on social media but no longer close, and in all honesty we have very little contact. I messaged him after his child was born to a new woman a couple years ago to congratulate him, and he replied thank you etc, but otherwise we don't generally speak.

Today I received a message from him out of the blue asking how I was. I replied that I was fine and asked about him etc, we had a pleasant exchange about our respective kids etc. All fine and pleasant. He then asked me if I knew why my sister was still using "his name", and that he'd discovered this recently and it bothered him. I said I didn't know why she had made this decision, and that it's not really anything to do with me, but I assumed it was because it was less hassle to keep her married name for practical reasons (my sister is a very pragmatic person). I explained this was likely the reason and he continued to state that this was "weird" and "wrong" and could I "suggest" to her that she should revert back to her maiden name. I said this wasn't my place and legally it's her name, and asked why it was a concern to him so many years down the line? He said that I wouldn't understand because I "hadn't been through it", but that this surname was "a part of him" and he didn't need the "constant reminder". Again, I asked how on earth he's being constantly reminded when he literally has no contact with my sister anymore? He couldn't answer this, just said "it's not her identity anymore, it's MY surname". I was going round in circles explaining to him that it was also in fact her legal surname to use as she wished and there was little he could do about that. He then stated that "there is only going to be one Mrs X soon and it's not her". I pointed out that there are many, many Mrs X's in the world and he didn't own the rights to that particular surname. I suggested he just focused on his new relationship/ wife to be and family and move on from what my sister chooses to do / not do. He then became defensive stating that "I don't care about her or what she does but I don't think this is right". I had to end the discussion as we were just going round in unhelpful circles and I was fed up of repeating myself.

I then spoke to my sister and she said he'd also been in touch with her recently out of the blue saying similar things, demanding to know why she wasn't changing her name. She said she told him she'd made a decision to keep the name she was known by in professional circles and just for ease. He was apparently unpleasant towards her so she ended up blocking him, hence he's now badgering her family members.

AIBU that this is just a ridiculous thing to for him to get wound up about? Why now, 6 years down the line is my sister's name suddenly an issue just because he's remarrying?! He surely cannot expect my sister to change her name just because he finds it "weird" and thinks its "not her identity"?! And also why is he bothering me with this?! I assume this has only become an issue because he's getting married again, but why should it matter? For context the surname is a very common one - think Smith / Jones - and so there'll be literally thousands of women with this name across the world and yet his new wife needs to be "the only one"?!

Aside from all of this, what has any of it got to to with me?! I wasn't even married to the guy!

The whole thing has just annoyed and baffled me and just wanted some outside perspectives! Thank you.

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Tempnamechng · 07/02/2024 15:09

He needs blocking - I can see why he is your exbil.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:10

beatrix1234 · 07/02/2024 15:09

If my ex husband went around using my surname as his I would be angry too and would NOT like it so I totally see where he’s coming from.

Can you explain why?

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Bellaboo01 · 07/02/2024 15:10

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 14:49

NC for this.

Long story short, my sister and my ex BIL divorced around 6 years ago. All water under the bridge now, they don't have contact anymore, no kids together so a relatively straightforward separation. It was hard at the time as BIL had been a part of the family for a lot of years and I regarded him as more of a brother to be honest, so the separation was hard for the rest of the family but it was the right decision for my sister and we obviously stood by her as her family. I'm still friends with BIL on social media but no longer close, and in all honesty we have very little contact. I messaged him after his child was born to a new woman a couple years ago to congratulate him, and he replied thank you etc, but otherwise we don't generally speak.

Today I received a message from him out of the blue asking how I was. I replied that I was fine and asked about him etc, we had a pleasant exchange about our respective kids etc. All fine and pleasant. He then asked me if I knew why my sister was still using "his name", and that he'd discovered this recently and it bothered him. I said I didn't know why she had made this decision, and that it's not really anything to do with me, but I assumed it was because it was less hassle to keep her married name for practical reasons (my sister is a very pragmatic person). I explained this was likely the reason and he continued to state that this was "weird" and "wrong" and could I "suggest" to her that she should revert back to her maiden name. I said this wasn't my place and legally it's her name, and asked why it was a concern to him so many years down the line? He said that I wouldn't understand because I "hadn't been through it", but that this surname was "a part of him" and he didn't need the "constant reminder". Again, I asked how on earth he's being constantly reminded when he literally has no contact with my sister anymore? He couldn't answer this, just said "it's not her identity anymore, it's MY surname". I was going round in circles explaining to him that it was also in fact her legal surname to use as she wished and there was little he could do about that. He then stated that "there is only going to be one Mrs X soon and it's not her". I pointed out that there are many, many Mrs X's in the world and he didn't own the rights to that particular surname. I suggested he just focused on his new relationship/ wife to be and family and move on from what my sister chooses to do / not do. He then became defensive stating that "I don't care about her or what she does but I don't think this is right". I had to end the discussion as we were just going round in unhelpful circles and I was fed up of repeating myself.

I then spoke to my sister and she said he'd also been in touch with her recently out of the blue saying similar things, demanding to know why she wasn't changing her name. She said she told him she'd made a decision to keep the name she was known by in professional circles and just for ease. He was apparently unpleasant towards her so she ended up blocking him, hence he's now badgering her family members.

AIBU that this is just a ridiculous thing to for him to get wound up about? Why now, 6 years down the line is my sister's name suddenly an issue just because he's remarrying?! He surely cannot expect my sister to change her name just because he finds it "weird" and thinks its "not her identity"?! And also why is he bothering me with this?! I assume this has only become an issue because he's getting married again, but why should it matter? For context the surname is a very common one - think Smith / Jones - and so there'll be literally thousands of women with this name across the world and yet his new wife needs to be "the only one"?!

Aside from all of this, what has any of it got to to with me?! I wasn't even married to the guy!

The whole thing has just annoyed and baffled me and just wanted some outside perspectives! Thank you.

Block him.

Simple.

LoveSandbanks · 07/02/2024 15:10

My parents divorced over 40 years ago. My mother is still known by her married surname. Hes ridiculous to even suggest it.

KreedKafer · 07/02/2024 15:11

Are you sure it wasn't his current fiancee messaging from his account?

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:12

KreedKafer · 07/02/2024 15:11

Are you sure it wasn't his current fiancee messaging from his account?

Well obviously not 100% sure but now you've made me question it 🤔 I don't know her at all, never met her, but the messaging style seemed very BIL.

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Left · 07/02/2024 15:12

If he’s that bothered he can take on his new wife’s surname 🤷‍♀️

girlfriend44 · 07/02/2024 15:14

LoveSandbanks · 07/02/2024 15:10

My parents divorced over 40 years ago. My mother is still known by her married surname. Hes ridiculous to even suggest it.

why though she isnt married anymore. You only take the name by marriage!

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:15

another thing that irked me was the way he messaged on the pretext of asking how I was and how the family and kids are etc... he didn't actually give a shit about that. He was only messaging to interrogate me about my sister's life decisions 🙄

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DoILookThrilled · 07/02/2024 15:15

Well, it is his name but she’s stolen it and he owns it! Cheek of the woman. Back in the real world he’s mental. She can call herself what she wants. Block, ignore and move on

sunlovingcriminal · 07/02/2024 15:15

Left · 07/02/2024 15:12

If he’s that bothered he can take on his new wife’s surname 🤷‍♀️

Or even make up a completely new surname for him and his new wife to enjoy?! Something very unique.

I suggested this to my new dp, but for some reason he didn't take to being Mr and Mrs Fandango-Flamingoes....

(Which your BIL can't have btw, there is time for me to yet convince my dp 🥳)

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:16

toomuchfaff · 07/02/2024 15:04

hahahahaha I've heard this before, bloke getting wound up because the ex didn't revert HIS name.. usually accompanied by a mad new girlfriend about to become wife wanting to be the ONLY Mrs X...

Tell him it's none of your business, uts actually none of HIS business what name your sister goes by, in reality ANYONE, even you, your husband, your mother and your neighbours could change your name by deed pole to "his" name, he doesn't own a name. Then tell him you'll entertain no further discussions on this matter and block him if necessary.

Yep, I could change MY name to Mrs X tomorrow if I wanted to and there'd be nowt he could do about it!

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beatrix1234 · 07/02/2024 15:16

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:10

Can you explain why?

I would not like it because my surname belongs to my family, my ex husband is no longer family and I don’t keep in touch with him, so feels weird to me if he still used my name, specially if I’m about to get married, but that’s just my personal opinion and everyone is different I guess.

sunlovingcriminal · 07/02/2024 15:18

@girlfriend44 you do realise that there is no legal obligation to change your name back to your maiden name once you divorce?

Why should I lose the name I've had for over a decade? And is the same as my kids? And which I am known as in my industry?!

The husband doesn't have a legal title over the name, like a possession!

You've made me laugh... maybe I should wrap the name up and give it back to my ex husband like a returned gift!

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:19

The name is also as common as the likes of Smith or Jones. It's not even particularly unique. That's what makes it funnier that his wife to be needs to be "the only one" 😆

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PossumintheHouse · 07/02/2024 15:19

beatrix1234 · 07/02/2024 15:16

I would not like it because my surname belongs to my family, my ex husband is no longer family and I don’t keep in touch with him, so feels weird to me if he still used my name, specially if I’m about to get married, but that’s just my personal opinion and everyone is different I guess.

You can’t own a name, first or second or otherwise. And I’d be amazed if you’re the only family in the world with your surname.

Mudflaps · 07/02/2024 15:20

I'd message him back saying now that he's brought it to your mind you've always secretly loved that name and you're going to change yours to it so you'll match your sister. Then block him.

MikeRafone · 07/02/2024 15:20

I’d put the name into google and see how many their are

dont engage any further, if he comes back with anything else -

its not my concern, enjoy your life with your new wife and baby, you look so happy. Bye 👋

NeverAHarvester · 07/02/2024 15:22

It's not Highlander. There can be more than one Mrs X.

toomuchfaff · 07/02/2024 15:22

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:16

Yep, I could change MY name to Mrs X tomorrow if I wanted to and there'd be nowt he could do about it!

Something similar, I changed my name when I was about 30, because I had the name of my mums ex husband... she hadn't remarried or reverted when they divorced... and me, my son and mum all changed our name by deed pole to drop the ex husbands name 40 yrs after the divorce! If she gets pregnant and is unmarried tell her to change lol

rwalker · 07/02/2024 15:23

more than likely it’s the new wife to be instigating this

Bluenotgreen · 07/02/2024 15:24

I had all this shit when XH remarried. His new wife didn’t think I was “entitled” to use the name since she was about to become Mrs Green (real name similarly common)

I told him it was pure laziness on my part and I basically couldn’t be arsed to change it.

thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:28

@Bluenotgreen my sister's reason is exactly the same! She said she "couldn't be arsed" with the hassle and that she's well known professionally by that name. Both valid reasons imo! Ex BIL needs to get a serious grip of himself. And/or the new partner if this is coming from her.

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 15:29

We've given our other sister a heads up that she's probably up next to be quizzed since he's got nowhere with my sister or I... She's ready with her finger over the block button 😂

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Nicebloomers · 07/02/2024 15:30

He should change his name to his new wife’s- problem solved.

Block him.