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Ex BIL messaging me

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thisisuttermadness · 07/02/2024 14:49

NC for this.

Long story short, my sister and my ex BIL divorced around 6 years ago. All water under the bridge now, they don't have contact anymore, no kids together so a relatively straightforward separation. It was hard at the time as BIL had been a part of the family for a lot of years and I regarded him as more of a brother to be honest, so the separation was hard for the rest of the family but it was the right decision for my sister and we obviously stood by her as her family. I'm still friends with BIL on social media but no longer close, and in all honesty we have very little contact. I messaged him after his child was born to a new woman a couple years ago to congratulate him, and he replied thank you etc, but otherwise we don't generally speak.

Today I received a message from him out of the blue asking how I was. I replied that I was fine and asked about him etc, we had a pleasant exchange about our respective kids etc. All fine and pleasant. He then asked me if I knew why my sister was still using "his name", and that he'd discovered this recently and it bothered him. I said I didn't know why she had made this decision, and that it's not really anything to do with me, but I assumed it was because it was less hassle to keep her married name for practical reasons (my sister is a very pragmatic person). I explained this was likely the reason and he continued to state that this was "weird" and "wrong" and could I "suggest" to her that she should revert back to her maiden name. I said this wasn't my place and legally it's her name, and asked why it was a concern to him so many years down the line? He said that I wouldn't understand because I "hadn't been through it", but that this surname was "a part of him" and he didn't need the "constant reminder". Again, I asked how on earth he's being constantly reminded when he literally has no contact with my sister anymore? He couldn't answer this, just said "it's not her identity anymore, it's MY surname". I was going round in circles explaining to him that it was also in fact her legal surname to use as she wished and there was little he could do about that. He then stated that "there is only going to be one Mrs X soon and it's not her". I pointed out that there are many, many Mrs X's in the world and he didn't own the rights to that particular surname. I suggested he just focused on his new relationship/ wife to be and family and move on from what my sister chooses to do / not do. He then became defensive stating that "I don't care about her or what she does but I don't think this is right". I had to end the discussion as we were just going round in unhelpful circles and I was fed up of repeating myself.

I then spoke to my sister and she said he'd also been in touch with her recently out of the blue saying similar things, demanding to know why she wasn't changing her name. She said she told him she'd made a decision to keep the name she was known by in professional circles and just for ease. He was apparently unpleasant towards her so she ended up blocking him, hence he's now badgering her family members.

AIBU that this is just a ridiculous thing to for him to get wound up about? Why now, 6 years down the line is my sister's name suddenly an issue just because he's remarrying?! He surely cannot expect my sister to change her name just because he finds it "weird" and thinks its "not her identity"?! And also why is he bothering me with this?! I assume this has only become an issue because he's getting married again, but why should it matter? For context the surname is a very common one - think Smith / Jones - and so there'll be literally thousands of women with this name across the world and yet his new wife needs to be "the only one"?!

Aside from all of this, what has any of it got to to with me?! I wasn't even married to the guy!

The whole thing has just annoyed and baffled me and just wanted some outside perspectives! Thank you.

OP posts:
OVienna · 09/02/2024 14:29

diddl · 09/02/2024 14:03

Didn't realise that Beatrice was divorced!

I guess you know I'm being facetious.

OVienna · 09/02/2024 14:30

Throckmorton · 09/02/2024 14:16

You know, I'm really confused. If any Mrs Smith can be mistaken for the wife of any and all Mr Smiths, does that mean that anyone who meets a Mrs Smith assumes all Mr Smiths are bigamists, seeing as there are quite a few Mrs Smiths out there?! Also, if such confusion can arise, does that mean all Mrs Smiths are confused as to whether they are in fact a different Mrs Smith from the one they thought they were?!

😄

OVienna · 09/02/2024 14:31

@thisisuttermadness The only thing unreasonable about this thread is you didn't work out it was down to the new girlfriend. 😉

ED: I mean, his messaging you.

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/02/2024 14:44

BIL is like this:

Ex BIL messaging me
thisisuttermadness · 09/02/2024 15:13

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/02/2024 14:44

BIL is like this:

😂😂😂

OP posts:
thisisuttermadness · 09/02/2024 15:15

OVienna · 09/02/2024 14:31

@thisisuttermadness The only thing unreasonable about this thread is you didn't work out it was down to the new girlfriend. 😉

ED: I mean, his messaging you.

Edited

Haha I think I knew that deep down really!

She must be the only Mrs Smith - Mrs Smith The Original.

God... imagine. Could you be arsed giving it headspace 😂

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OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 09/02/2024 15:39

The Current Mrs Smith, perhaps.

Projectme · 09/02/2024 15:48

Ex Friend of mine whose split was very acrimonious from her husband. She had changed her name to his on their marriage. Its a fairly unusual name. She's kept the name, purely to piss him off as she knows it annoys him immensely. He's annoyed she's kept it because he doesn't want any association to her because, quite frankly, she was fucking bitch to him whilst he was trying to save their marriage. He does absolutely despise her; she really acted appallingly.

So I can see why some men would prefer to know their ex-wife was no longer using their surname because it has somehow become 'tainted' but this kind of scenario doesn't relate to your sister at all so it is bloody wierd why he's got so histrionic about his surname! 🤯

I'm just giving a reason why a man might want his ex to revert to her previous surname...

SomeCatFromJapan · 09/02/2024 16:43

So I can see why some men would prefer to know their ex-wife was no longer using their surname

It's no longer "their" surname though, once you change your name it is yours, to keep or change of your own free will, not at the pleasure of a man. The marriage is just the origin story.

youmustrememberthis · 09/02/2024 16:45

Projectme · 09/02/2024 15:48

Ex Friend of mine whose split was very acrimonious from her husband. She had changed her name to his on their marriage. Its a fairly unusual name. She's kept the name, purely to piss him off as she knows it annoys him immensely. He's annoyed she's kept it because he doesn't want any association to her because, quite frankly, she was fucking bitch to him whilst he was trying to save their marriage. He does absolutely despise her; she really acted appallingly.

So I can see why some men would prefer to know their ex-wife was no longer using their surname because it has somehow become 'tainted' but this kind of scenario doesn't relate to your sister at all so it is bloody wierd why he's got so histrionic about his surname! 🤯

I'm just giving a reason why a man might want his ex to revert to her previous surname...

He can want all he likes but that's where it ends. His opinion carries no weight regardless of who did what in a relationship.

Noideawwhatsoccuring · 09/02/2024 17:02

It's not his name. It's her name. It's the same as his. But it's not owned by him.

As soon as she changed her name it was her name.

OVienna · 09/02/2024 22:23

Imagine setting up a game changing pressure group. I mean WTF does that pair have nothing better to do?????

TheFormidableMrsC · 09/02/2024 23:14

OVienna · 09/02/2024 22:23

Imagine setting up a game changing pressure group. I mean WTF does that pair have nothing better to do?????

She's so woefully insecure that he's turned into a loon. I wish them a long and happy life together Smile

Thementalloadisreal · 09/02/2024 23:22

OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 09/02/2024 15:39

The Current Mrs Smith, perhaps.

The sister can go by “the wife formerly known as Mrs Smith”

AliceMcK · 09/02/2024 23:35

Omg reading this thread makes me think of my mother who is convinced all my DFs family destroyed all photos of his first wedding and wife out of “respect” for my mother (2nd wife) 🙄

BirthdayRainbow · 09/02/2024 23:39

diddl · 09/02/2024 14:03

Didn't realise that Beatrice was divorced!

She's not.

OrangeMarmaladeOnToast · 10/02/2024 07:15

Thementalloadisreal · 09/02/2024 23:22

The sister can go by “the wife formerly known as Mrs Smith”

Edited

Or just a symbol, TAFKA Prince style!

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