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Detention for asking period question

211 replies

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 13:47

A female relative of mine (year 5). Recently had a lesson on puberty, specifically periods.

After school my relative and a few friends were getting ready to go to an after school club, they were still discussing last lesson on puberty, when relative asked friend if her sister (goes to same school) had started her period. The friend took massive offence and cried. Relative apologised straight away.

A teacher was found and a detention has been issued.

My relative is a nice, sweet girl.

Aibu to think this was harsh?

OP posts:
CecilyP · 01/02/2024 20:19

Periods are nothing to be ashamed of. But someone's personal experience of their own periods is a private subject, to be discussed only on their terms. The girl needed to learn that asking such intrusive questions – especially about someone else not present – is inappropriate.

It’s not really intrusive. She didn’t ask for any detailed information of the sisters experience of periods, simply if she’d started or not.

CecilyP · 01/02/2024 20:26

Happyhippy99 · 01/02/2024 18:24

The OP said that the girl given the detention was asking another girl if her sister had started her periods.
The girl given the detention needs to understand that asking private medical questions is rude and unacceptable. The school are teaching her basic manners by giving her a detention. Imagine if the same girl asked a relative with cancer, when are you going to die ? Or asked a male relative about his testes or ED.

Except periods are not a medical matter. They can be, but mostly they are not as they happen to all healthy females between certain ages. It is not remotely like asking a relative about cancer.

ThanksItHasPockets · 01/02/2024 20:43

BoohooWoohoo · 01/02/2024 19:58

They use “staying in at playtime” for things like bad behaviour like violence or not finishing work because of messing around during lesson time.

Sure, but they don’t call this ‘detention’ or send home a written slip. I see OP has clarified that it is an independent school.

MountainBarbie · 01/02/2024 20:47

Your poor relative, this is so not okay Op. Sorry for the assumptions being made on here I've read the thread and it's very clear what you've said has happened. Please complain to the school - how was the teacher to know that your relative hadn't indeed started her period herself at that age and was trying to confide in another student in a clumsy way because of her age? Absolutely appaling, the teacher needs to explain their reasoning ASAP.

Frangipanyoul8r · 01/02/2024 20:50

What exactly is the lesson to be learnt from this detention? That no one should ask a personal question through fear of offending? Is that really what girls schools are teaching nowadays? Bonkers.

sunnyday81 · 01/02/2024 20:54

I’m not saying at all your relative is lying but teachers don’t hand out detentions for nothing and is a bit odd the other child was so upset. Perhaps there’s a bit more to it - had the girls been specifically told not to ask each other personal questions so girls who had / hadn’t started their period didn’t feel embarrassed when asked, perhaps it was her tone or what might have been said between them e earlier in the day and this was the last straw for the teacher. I teach year 5 and the sweetest, loveliest girls can have friendship fallouts with friends and in the heat of the moment say something daft. Their version of events often don’t quite tally with what really happened, small details left out or added in. It’s all part of growing up and navigating friendships.

ReallyAgainReally · 01/02/2024 21:01

how old is year 5? stop saying relative as it makes it like it's an adult.

teacher was right. does your relative watch eastenders/coronation street where they are all screaming and shouting at each others, or gossiping about friends? 'relative' must LEARN to not discuss people who are not present.

CynthiaRothrock · 01/02/2024 21:15

@Mumof2teens79 Unusual maybe, but not unheard of. I've worked in a school, one family had 5children. 1 in Yr 6, 1 in Yr 5 one in Yr 3 one in Yr 1 and a baby. 10 months between the first 2. 11 months between the second and third.....

ToWhitToWhoo · 01/02/2024 21:41

ConflictedCheetah · 01/02/2024 14:06

I was about to say this. What primary schools give detentions at all? Let alone for something like this.

From the description, it sounds as though it may be the junior department of an all-age private school. I may be wrong on this; but, if this is indeed the case, it's less surprising that they might have detentions.

Bewler · 01/02/2024 21:43

How this wasn’t simply resolved by a gentle conversation between teacher and pupil along the lines of “periods are private” is beyond me. Surely if they are teaching about periods, they are teaching that (as with all aspects of puberty) some children may feel shy about it. So ask a teacher or your parents if you have questions but don’t make personal comments.
Detention? Fuck no! What kind of weird school is this?
#theremustbemoretoit

nevertrustanyoneagain · 01/02/2024 21:44

Sounds like a Plymouth brethren school, conservative Christians, combined school, private minibuses etc

ToWhitToWhoo · 01/02/2024 21:45

Now that I've RTFT, this (private school) does seem to be the case

Your relative may have been a little tactless, but in a completely innocent way. A detention seems way OTT.

Bewler · 01/02/2024 21:52

nevertrustanyoneagain · 01/02/2024 21:44

Sounds like a Plymouth brethren school, conservative Christians, combined school, private minibuses etc

If so, that would make this whole thread make a bit more sense….

Mariposistaaa · 01/02/2024 21:55

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/02/2024 19:11

This is ridiculous. Her mother should absolutely be challenging the school over this. They teach them about periods then shame them by punishment for asking an innocent question, as she was yet to learn about boundaries regarding puberty.

If I were the mother, I'd be refusing consent for the detention.

How dare they try to shame the girl for asking an innocent question about what they had just been taught. Shocking behaviour from the teacher.

Exactly.

Dear Mrs/Miss XXX
I understand that my daughter XXX has got herself into a spot of bother by asking curious questions about puberty/female development to another member of the class. I shall be speaking to her and making sure that if she has any doubts or needs anything clarifying, that she speaks to myself, an female family member or friend or one of her teachers so as not to generate any playground gossip or twisted versions of reality.
I understand that she has apologised to the girl in question, and assures me that she will not be asking any more questions. I therefore consider the matter closed. XXX will not be attending detention on Friday afternoon. We have a prior engagement that evening.
Very best wishes

XXXX's mother.

CJsGoldfish · 01/02/2024 23:15

Garlickit · 01/02/2024 16:37

There is nothing in the Bible to say periods are filthy 🤔

Leviticus 15:19 When a woman has a discharge, and the discharge in her body is blood, she shall be in her menstrual impurity for seven days, and whoever touches her shall be unclean until the evening.

Leviticus 15:20 And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean.

Leviticus 20:18 If a man lies with a woman during her menstrual period and uncovers her nakedness, he has made naked her fountain, and she has uncovered the fountain of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

Leviticus 15:28-30 But if she is cleansed of her discharge, she shall count for herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take two turtledoves or two pigeons and bring them to the priest, to the entrance of the tent of meeting.

Ezekiel 36:17 When the house of Israel lived in their own land, they defiled it by their ways and their deeds. Their ways before me were like the uncleanness of a woman in her menstrual impurity.

  • There's a lot more, as you should know. It all boils down to re-statements of Leviticus, who makes it very clear that a menstruating woman is so revolting for seven days that nobody can touch her or anything she sits/lies on. Then she stays unclean for another seven days, after which she has to go for a special bath and make sacrifices (orthodox Jewish women still do this!)
(Biblical thread diversion over.)

Awkward 😝

Think we're going to just pretend that didn't happen 🤣

Maireas · 02/02/2024 07:37

Mariposistaaa · 01/02/2024 21:55

Exactly.

Dear Mrs/Miss XXX
I understand that my daughter XXX has got herself into a spot of bother by asking curious questions about puberty/female development to another member of the class. I shall be speaking to her and making sure that if she has any doubts or needs anything clarifying, that she speaks to myself, an female family member or friend or one of her teachers so as not to generate any playground gossip or twisted versions of reality.
I understand that she has apologised to the girl in question, and assures me that she will not be asking any more questions. I therefore consider the matter closed. XXX will not be attending detention on Friday afternoon. We have a prior engagement that evening.
Very best wishes

XXXX's mother.

It's not an after school detention.
It's break time.
Plus, remember that this is not a regular state primary school. It's an independent girls' school, so different rules apply.

Testina · 02/02/2024 07:45

nevertrustanyoneagain · 01/02/2024 21:44

Sounds like a Plymouth brethren school, conservative Christians, combined school, private minibuses etc

I think you’ve nailed it. If you’re right, the parents are just as much at fault as the school, if they’ve chosen to send your daughter somewhere that treats women like that.

YoureALizardHarry11 · 02/02/2024 08:00

Oh, come on, that’s way over kill. Crying? Ridiculous. I know it’s technically a ‘’personal question’’ but 1. It wasn’t about the girl so it’s even odder that she cried, and 2. It was totally innocuous, really. If someone asked me at that age I would have honestly thought nothing of it. Yes/No/Not sure. In any case, there was absolutely no need for a detention. A simple, ‘’Excuse me, we don’t need to ask personal questions about other people, please’’ End of story. Some people are utterly ridiculous.

ThanksItHasPockets · 02/02/2024 08:26

nevertrustanyoneagain · 01/02/2024 21:44

Sounds like a Plymouth brethren school, conservative Christians, combined school, private minibuses etc

If you are right then this is a highly relevant bit of context.

Mariposistaaa · 02/02/2024 08:31

YoureALizardHarry11 · 02/02/2024 08:00

Oh, come on, that’s way over kill. Crying? Ridiculous. I know it’s technically a ‘’personal question’’ but 1. It wasn’t about the girl so it’s even odder that she cried, and 2. It was totally innocuous, really. If someone asked me at that age I would have honestly thought nothing of it. Yes/No/Not sure. In any case, there was absolutely no need for a detention. A simple, ‘’Excuse me, we don’t need to ask personal questions about other people, please’’ End of story. Some people are utterly ridiculous.

Edited

@YoureALizardHarry11 can you imagine when the poor little snowflake starts having periods herself? She won’t cope!

JustwantacupfT · 02/02/2024 08:51

Really poorly handled by school. This girl will have a hang up now about certain conversations because she has been shamed for her naivety in this situation. Instead as pp has said teacher could have explained that not everyone wants to share things like that and that everyone is different. What a shame.

SheilaFentiman · 02/02/2024 09:05

Mariposistaaa · 02/02/2024 08:31

@YoureALizardHarry11 can you imagine when the poor little snowflake starts having periods herself? She won’t cope!

Please don’t call a 10 year old a poor snowflake for getting upset by an unexpected personal question. It makes you sound nasty.

SheilaFentiman · 02/02/2024 09:06

Separately, it is possible her sister does not get periods because of an eating disorder, or that the girl’s parents do take a biblical view of periods and the upset child finds the question hard for that reason.

Thebookdragon · 02/02/2024 09:08

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 13:54

Yes, the teacher has given the exact scenario in the write up.

A third girl was present who said to the offended girl she was sure my relative did not mean to cause offence.

Then I would refuse to do the detention saying asking questions about periods should be the norm. Apologise for the timing and the person has the right to say no. But asking who has started is normal. Check direct with the school that an innocuous question was all it was and there was nothing else

ToddlerIs2 · 02/02/2024 09:22

Def ott

I'd be more interested, as the teacher, in the other child's tears. What have they learnt at home that's made the .ere qn induce tears?

The whole "she shouldn't have asked about the sister" is this really where we are? Discussion on periods, you'll probably start in a year or so. Oh bestie has your year older sister had her yet. Omg how DARE you, you shall be PUNISHED!!

What's next?
So had your sister really got a bf? Right, a month's detention.
Did you sister have a nice birthday? Detention!!
Does your sister want to come bowling with us? How dare you ask one person what another person might think or want to do, you're expelled!!